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I agree to disagree. There was a huge number of Communist infiltrating our country and in our government and McCarthy was right about that. But he overstepped, much like the cancel culture now. Named names and pointed fingers when it wasn't necessarily the case and alienated a hell of a lot of people in the process. Just like the liberal democrat social justice warriors have done lately.Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.
Communism - McCarthy Was Right
Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.
The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard
On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department
Name me one person that Senator McCarthy falsely accused.
Perhaps ya don't get the point. I know goddam well those traitors were guilty.Like Alger Hiss ,Whittaker Chambers ,and the Rosenbergs.I started a thread on this subject in the History forum titled "Joseph McCarthy Was Right in Most Cases." It provides another example of the abject inability of liberals to deal with facts that destroy their cherished myths.
ah hah....I knew some idiot would bring those names up.........the venona intercepts prove they were guilty....gotcha!
Only in 1995 did the United States government officially reveal the existence of the super-secret Venona Project. For nearly fifty years American intelligence agents had been decoding thousands of Soviet messages, uncovering an enormous range of espionage activities carried out against the United States during World War II by its own allies. So sensitive was the project in its early years that even President Truman was not informed of its existence. This extraordinary book is the first to examine the Venona messages—documents of unparalleled importance for our understanding of the history and politics of the Stalin era and the early Cold War years.
Hidden away in a former girls’ school in the late 1940s, Venona Project cryptanalysts, linguists, and mathematicians attempted to decode more than twenty-five thousand intercepted Soviet intelligence telegrams. When they cracked the unbreakable Soviet code, a breakthrough leading eventually to the decryption of nearly three thousand of the messages, analysts uncovered information of powerful significance: the first indication of Julius Rosenberg’s espionage efforts; references to the espionage activities of Alger Hiss; startling proof of Soviet infiltration of the Manhattan Project to build the atomic bomb; evidence that spies had reached the highest levels of the U.S. State and Treasury Departments; indications that more than three hundred Americans had assisted in the Soviet theft of American industrial, scientific, military, and diplomatic secrets; and confirmation that the Communist party of the United States was consciously and willingly involved in Soviet espionage against America. Drawing not only on the Venona papers but also on newly opened Russian and U. S. archives, John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr provide in this book the clearest, most rigorously documented analysis ever written on Soviet espionage and the Americans who abetted it in the early Cold War years.
https://www.amazon.com/Venona-Decoding-Soviet-Espionage-America/dp/0300084625&tag=ff0d01-20
SLike Alger Hiss ,Whittaker Chambers ,and the Rosenbergs.I started a thread on this subject in the History forum titled "Joseph McCarthy Was Right in Most Cases." It provides another example of the abject inability of liberals to deal with facts that destroy their cherished myths.
ah hah....I knew some idiot would bring those names up.........the venona intercepts prove they were guilty....gotcha!
Only in 1995 did the United States government officially reveal the existence of the super-secret Venona Project. For nearly fifty years American intelligence agents had been decoding thousands of Soviet messages, uncovering an enormous range of espionage activities carried out against the United States during World War II by its own allies. So sensitive was the project in its early years that even President Truman was not informed of its existence. This extraordinary book is the first to examine the Venona messages—documents of unparalleled importance for our understanding of the history and politics of the Stalin era and the early Cold War years.
Hidden away in a former girls’ school in the late 1940s, Venona Project cryptanalysts, linguists, and mathematicians attempted to decode more than twenty-five thousand intercepted Soviet intelligence telegrams. When they cracked the unbreakable Soviet code, a breakthrough leading eventually to the decryption of nearly three thousand of the messages, analysts uncovered information of powerful significance: the first indication of Julius Rosenberg’s espionage efforts; references to the espionage activities of Alger Hiss; startling proof of Soviet infiltration of the Manhattan Project to build the atomic bomb; evidence that spies had reached the highest levels of the U.S. State and Treasury Departments; indications that more than three hundred Americans had assisted in the Soviet theft of American industrial, scientific, military, and diplomatic secrets; and confirmation that the Communist party of the United States was consciously and willingly involved in Soviet espionage against America. Drawing not only on the Venona papers but also on newly opened Russian and U. S. archives, John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr provide in this book the clearest, most rigorously documented analysis ever written on Soviet espionage and the Americans who abetted it in the early Cold War years.
https://www.amazon.com/Venona-Decoding-Soviet-Espionage-America/dp/0300084625&tag=ff0d01-20
Perhaps ya don't get the point. I know goddam well those traitors were guilty.
I agree to disagree. There was a huge number of Communist infiltrating our country and in our government and McCarthy was right about that. But he overstepped, much like the cancel culture now. Named names and pointed fingers when it wasn't necessarily the case and alienated a hell of a lot of people in the process. Just like the liberal democrat social justice warriors have done lately.Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.
Communism - McCarthy Was Right
Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.
The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard
On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department
Name me one person that Senator McCarthy falsely accused.
All of them.Most of them. Anyways. Communist infiltrators was a very real thing then. He (McCarthy )did this for political reasons and notoriety, little else. He was onto something though. Little did we know....But that is the point of this thread after all.
It's clear as day Communism infiltrated every aspect of American culture in the 50's True, And McCarthy was demagogue. And that my friend, was the over arching issue
Communists always say "Where would the employers be without "workers". Just where in HELL would the "Workers" be without employers? Ayn Rand wrote about this.It's clear as day Communism infiltrated every aspect of American culture in the 50's True, And McCarthy was demagogue. And that my friend, was the over arching issue
Much more importantly...our government was infiltrated by Russian Spies...which began back in the 20's.
Do not forget that during the Great Depression many Americans became enamoured with communism.
McCarthy was portrayed by the media back then as a demagogue and actually still is.
Which of these issues do you believe was the over-arching issue?
Soviet espionage in the United States
It's Time to See Joe McCarthy For the Hero He Was
The problem for dumbasses like you is that Mccarthy had plenty of evidence.McCarthyism was the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. Guilt by association was the rule of day. Hundreds of Americans were accused of being "communists" or "communist sympathizers"; they became the subject of aggressive investigations and questioning before government or private panels, committees, and agencies. Suspicions were often given credence despite inconclusive or questionable evidence, and the level of threat posed by a person's real or supposed leftist associations or beliefs were often wildly exaggerated. Books that might be interpreted as leftest were pulled from shelves. Plans for movies that might be viewed as pro-communist were pulled from production or delayed. Teachers were warned about comments in the classroom that might be considered anti-American. Americans were encourage to report their friends and neighbors for comments that might indicate a communist leaning. This was an era when people were punished not necessarily for what they did but for their beliefs and opinions, a sad period for freedom in America. Thankfully, it only lasted a few years.Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.
Communism - McCarthy Was Right
Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.
The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard
On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department
Wrong. Everything he said turned out to be right.I agree to disagree. There was a huge number of Communist infiltrating our country and in our government and McCarthy was right about that. But he overstepped, much like the cancel culture now. Named names and pointed fingers when it wasn't necessarily the case and alienated a hell of a lot of people in the process. Just like the liberal democrat social justice warriors have done lately.Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.
Communism - McCarthy Was Right
Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.
The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard
On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department
You support what McCarthy did but you say nothing to defend his actions. Surely, you don't support his methods which include severe intimidation, often the threat of prison, and encouraging witness to give false testimony to escape public ridicule. He often had little or no solid evidence on which to base his claims. The names of many witnesses and suspects were released publicly, resulting in defamation of character and guilt by association. Careers and reputations were irreversibly damaged. And when all was said and done, there were no convictions for subversion.McCarthyism was the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. Guilt by association was the rule of day. Hundreds of Americans were accused of being "communists" or "communist sympathizers"; they became the subject of aggressive investigations and questioning before government or private panels, committees, and agencies. Suspicions were often given credence despite inconclusive or questionable evidence, and the level of threat posed by a person's real or supposed leftist associations or beliefs were often wildly exaggerated. Books that might be interpreted as leftest were pulled from shelves. Plans for movies that might be viewed as pro-communist were pulled from production or delayed. Teachers were warned about comments in the classroom that might be considered anti-American. Americans were encourage to report their friends and neighbors for comments that might indicate a communist leaning. This was an era when people were punished not necessarily for what they did but for their beliefs and opinions, a sad period for freedom in America. Thankfully, it only lasted a few years.Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.
Communism - McCarthy Was Right
Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.
The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard
On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department
Bullshit!!!
Morons like the above have no problem bowing down to a liberal myth that sacrificed the truth for the benefit of leftwingers etc.etc. they need to apologize for all that and recognize Joe McCarthy for his heroism and try and understand the calamitous injustice that is currently being inflicted on America...........
I speak of...................The 'racism' hysteria which is currently afflicting America comes from the left of course...as a fanatic political mob sees racists behind every door. Their paranoia is not harmless, as they use the racist bogeyman to intimidate political adversaries – and sometimes erstwhile friends – while seeking to silence political dialogue.
This current insanity revealed its full absurdity via the ACLU’s Twitter stream, which had the temerity to post a picture of an adorable young toddler holding an American flag and a doll with the tag line “This is the future that ACLU members want.” Because the girl happens to be blonde and Caucasian, the ACLU was promptly attacked – the ACLU!
Immediately the politically correct rage mob commenced a digital protest led by credentialed injustice professionals such as Professor Nyasha Junior of Temple University who posted, “A white kid with a flag?!” Yes, Professor. In much of America outside of your faculty lounge, young American children waving Old Glory warms the heart and makes us smile rather than prompt thoughts of white supremacy lurking under the sheets.
Come again? This lovely young kid holding a flag equals “white supremacy”? Who even thinks of such things? Answer: the diversity hustlers. Shame on the ACLU, which apparently should have posted a picture of a gender-fluid dark-skinned child, holding a rainbow flag, perhaps with a COEXIST sticker on [gender-neutral pronoun] wheelchair.
Did the ACLU, a group once known for taking brave and unpopular stands, hold its ground or, better yet, simply ignore the online rabble? Sadly, no. The organization shortly responded with a Kermit the Frog image saying “That’s a very good point” and the post “When your followers keep you in check and remind you that white supremacy is everywhere.”
This is not merely social-media silliness it is insanity and a weapon used cynically and viciously -- little girls are apparently acceptable collateral damage -- by the left to isolate and demonize opponents, and particularly President Trump and his supporters. As msnbc's Donny Deustch said of Trump: “He is a racist -- can we just say it once and for all?” Such accusations are not rare. If I had a dollar for every time the mainstream media accused Trump and his voters of racism, I’d be about as rich as the recent Powerball winner.
I believe that people of color, for far too long, have been taken for granted by the Democratic Party. I also believe that the Trump movement represents real policy solutions for the woes of poverty and violence that burden too many Afro-American and Latino citizens. . Yes, today’s liberals are quick to use racism’s terms when it suits their purposes.
One of the main reasons America has succeeded as a country lies is our rejection of the tribalism that afflicts and paralyzes so much of the world. America is an idea, and one open to all who embrace it, regardless of skin color, heritage, or religion.
Instead of allowing a new scourge, this Racist Scare, to corrode our discourse, we must embrace our common American identity, rooted in our best traditions and elucidated in our founding documents. We should be difficult to offend and slow to accuse others of the disease of prejudice. As the incumbent president of the United States explained in his inaugural address seven months ago: “When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for bigotry.”
by Steve Cortes, a contributor to RealClearPolitics and Fox News, is the national spokesman for the Hispanic 100, an organization that promotes Latino leadership by advancing free enterprise principles. His Twitter handle is @CortesSteve.
You mean McCarthy used the same methods used in every Congressional hearing? I don't know how anyone wouldn't object to that!You support what McCarthy did but you say nothing to defend his actions. Surely, you don't support his methods which include severe intimidation, often the threat of prison, and encouraging witness to give false testimony to escape public ridicule. He often had little or no solid evidence on which to base his claims. The names of many witnesses and suspects were released publicly, resulting in defamation of character and guilt by association. Careers and reputations were irreversibly damaged. And when all was said and done, there were no convictions for subversion.McCarthyism was the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. Guilt by association was the rule of day. Hundreds of Americans were accused of being "communists" or "communist sympathizers"; they became the subject of aggressive investigations and questioning before government or private panels, committees, and agencies. Suspicions were often given credence despite inconclusive or questionable evidence, and the level of threat posed by a person's real or supposed leftist associations or beliefs were often wildly exaggerated. Books that might be interpreted as leftest were pulled from shelves. Plans for movies that might be viewed as pro-communist were pulled from production or delayed. Teachers were warned about comments in the classroom that might be considered anti-American. Americans were encourage to report their friends and neighbors for comments that might indicate a communist leaning. This was an era when people were punished not necessarily for what they did but for their beliefs and opinions, a sad period for freedom in America. Thankfully, it only lasted a few years.Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.
Communism - McCarthy Was Right
Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.
The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard
On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department
Bullshit!!!
Morons like the above have no problem bowing down to a liberal myth that sacrificed the truth for the benefit of leftwingers etc.etc. they need to apologize for all that and recognize Joe McCarthy for his heroism and try and understand the calamitous injustice that is currently being inflicted on America...........
I speak of...................The 'racism' hysteria which is currently afflicting America comes from the left of course...as a fanatic political mob sees racists behind every door. Their paranoia is not harmless, as they use the racist bogeyman to intimidate political adversaries – and sometimes erstwhile friends – while seeking to silence political dialogue.
This current insanity revealed its full absurdity via the ACLU’s Twitter stream, which had the temerity to post a picture of an adorable young toddler holding an American flag and a doll with the tag line “This is the future that ACLU members want.” Because the girl happens to be blonde and Caucasian, the ACLU was promptly attacked – the ACLU!
Immediately the politically correct rage mob commenced a digital protest led by credentialed injustice professionals such as Professor Nyasha Junior of Temple University who posted, “A white kid with a flag?!” Yes, Professor. In much of America outside of your faculty lounge, young American children waving Old Glory warms the heart and makes us smile rather than prompt thoughts of white supremacy lurking under the sheets.
Come again? This lovely young kid holding a flag equals “white supremacy”? Who even thinks of such things? Answer: the diversity hustlers. Shame on the ACLU, which apparently should have posted a picture of a gender-fluid dark-skinned child, holding a rainbow flag, perhaps with a COEXIST sticker on [gender-neutral pronoun] wheelchair.
Did the ACLU, a group once known for taking brave and unpopular stands, hold its ground or, better yet, simply ignore the online rabble? Sadly, no. The organization shortly responded with a Kermit the Frog image saying “That’s a very good point” and the post “When your followers keep you in check and remind you that white supremacy is everywhere.”
This is not merely social-media silliness it is insanity and a weapon used cynically and viciously -- little girls are apparently acceptable collateral damage -- by the left to isolate and demonize opponents, and particularly President Trump and his supporters. As msnbc's Donny Deustch said of Trump: “He is a racist -- can we just say it once and for all?” Such accusations are not rare. If I had a dollar for every time the mainstream media accused Trump and his voters of racism, I’d be about as rich as the recent Powerball winner.
I believe that people of color, for far too long, have been taken for granted by the Democratic Party. I also believe that the Trump movement represents real policy solutions for the woes of poverty and violence that burden too many Afro-American and Latino citizens. . Yes, today’s liberals are quick to use racism’s terms when it suits their purposes.
One of the main reasons America has succeeded as a country lies is our rejection of the tribalism that afflicts and paralyzes so much of the world. America is an idea, and one open to all who embrace it, regardless of skin color, heritage, or religion.
Instead of allowing a new scourge, this Racist Scare, to corrode our discourse, we must embrace our common American identity, rooted in our best traditions and elucidated in our founding documents. We should be difficult to offend and slow to accuse others of the disease of prejudice. As the incumbent president of the United States explained in his inaugural address seven months ago: “When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for bigotry.”
by Steve Cortes, a contributor to RealClearPolitics and Fox News, is the national spokesman for the Hispanic 100, an organization that promotes Latino leadership by advancing free enterprise principles. His Twitter handle is @CortesSteve.
Thanks to a 1957 Supreme Court ruling that secures the constitutional rights of witnesses during a congressional investigation, McCarthyism is very unlikely to return to America. In other words, even though congressional investigations don't take place in an actual court, witnesses cannot be subjected to less-than-ethical interrogation methods.
I started a thread on this subject in the History forum titled "Joseph McCarthy Was Right in Most Cases." It provides another example of the abject inability of liberals to deal with facts that destroy their cherished myths.
The intense rivalry between the two superpowers raised concerns in the United States that Communists and leftist sympathizers inside America might actively work as Soviet spies and posed a threat to U.S. security. Such ideas were not totally unfounded. The USSR had long carried out espionage activities inside America with the aid of U.S. citizens, particularly during World War II.It's clear as day Communism infiltrated every aspect of American culture in the 50's True, And McCarthy was demagogue. And that my friend, was the over arching issue
The intense rivalry between the two superpowers raised concerns in the United States that Communists and leftist sympathizers inside America might actively work as Soviet spies and posed a threat to U.S. security. Such ideas were not totally unfounded. The USSR had long carried out espionage activities inside America with the aid of U.S. citizens, particularly during World War II.It's clear as day Communism infiltrated every aspect of American culture in the 50's True, And McCarthy was demagogue. And that my friend, was the over arching issue
A number of actions of government such as Truman's loyalty oath, the presidential order baring federal employment to persons who were members of organizations on the government list of UN-American associations coupled with news of advances in Soviet nuclear arms created a hysteria in the US, know as the "Red Scare". Many private organization particularly those that did business with the government agreed to root out communist sympathizers. People were encouraged to speak out against Un-American ideas and root out those that spread them.
In the 1950's the McCarthy Senate Herrings at first looked like a good way to expose communists but as they drug on it became clear that McCarthy's tactics were more UnAmerican than many of those he perused. Finally, American realized that it was wrong for the government to persecute and destroy the lives of people, not for they did but for what they believed or what they were reported to believe.
There nothing wrong with exposing contrary opinions and beliefs in the political area. However, there is a lot wrong with using government to investigate people for such. It is the right of every American to believe as he chooses and state his or her opinion regardless of what it may be without fear of government censorship nor persecution. Do you disagree?"While conservatives have offered a useful corrective to the simplistic standard view of McCarthyism, some have gone further in a quest to reclaim McCarthy as a good guy. The best-known champion of the "McCarthy was right" countermyth is right-wing provocateur Ann Coulter, whose book "Treason" proclaimed that McCarthy was a true hero in the struggle against communism, that no innocent people were victimized, and that the only unjust persecution was that of McCarthy by his left-wing enemies. The same themes were echoed last year in "American Betrayal" by Diana West, which caused some ferocious polemics in the conservative media.
Coulter and West have been harshly criticized by many conservatives and anticommunists, who point out that McCarthyism's excesses damaged not only American democracy but also the anticommunist cause. However, the McCarthy rehabilitation project has plenty of admirers on the right -- ones inclined to believe that modern-day American liberals, including President Barack Obama, are communists in disguise if not outright traitors. Meanwhile, many on the left, such as Yeshiva University historian Ellen Schrecker, continue to treat McCarthy-era communists as misunderstood idealists. Modern-day perceptions of McCarthyism remain colored by our own ideological polarization.
In some ways, the battle between the American left and McCarthyite anticommunism 60 years ago parallels many of today's political conflicts. Each camp ends up hurting its own cause more than its opponents' by descending into groupthink, demonization of "the enemy" and shrill demagoguery."
Young: Sen. Joe McCarthy wasn't totally wrong
McCarthyism was the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. Guilt by association was the rule of day. Hundreds of Americans were accused of being "communists" or "communist sympathizers"; they became the subject of aggressive investigations and questioning before government or private panels, committees, and agencies. Suspicions were often given credence despite inconclusive or questionable evidence, and the level of threat posed by a person's real or supposed leftist associations or beliefs were often wildly exaggerated. Books that might be interpreted as leftest were pulled from shelves. Plans for movies that might be viewed as pro-communist were pulled from production or delayed. Teachers were warned about comments in the classroom that might be considered anti-American. Americans were encourage to report their friends and neighbors for comments that might indicate a communist leaning. This was an era when people were punished not necessarily for what they did but for their beliefs and opinions, a sad period for freedom in America. Thankfully, it only lasted a few years.Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.
Communism - McCarthy Was Right
Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.
The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard
On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department
