The mountain of evidence gets a little higher.

[Moonglow]

Yeah, it's a forum, not a 700 level seminar.

Did you finish grade school because it was too long?

 

[Moonglow]

the Biden family has been receiving bribes from China, the bank records prove it even though the money was laundered thru multiple fake corporations (he is from Delaware you know). So which candidate is on the Chinese payroll and which one is being forced to do China's bidding? Bribes always have a quid pro quo. Which one is China most interested in helping? the one that put tariffs on their products or the one that they financially own?

Both have put tariffs on the Chinese.

 

[billyerock123]

I'll wait for your answer about why you keep pushing your lie Redfish or watch you disappear when the facts become available for you ... I'm waiting ...REDFISH

 

[billyerock123]

Both have put tariffs on the Chinese.

the thing that he's trying to push were alligations in a case against biden that turned out to be false ... hers what he has d

President Joe Biden is increasing tariffs on $18 billion in Chinese imports across a handful of sectors deemed strategic to national security – an attempt to cripple Beijing’s development of critical technologies and instead prioritize US production.


The increases will apply to imported steel and aluminum, legacy semiconductors, electric vehicles, battery components, critical minerals, solar cells, cranes and medical products. The new tariff rates – which range from 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% for solar components, to 25% for all other sectors – will take place over the next two years.


“China’s using the same playbook it has before to power its own growth at the expense of others,” said Lael Brainard, director of the White House National Economic Council. “China’s simply too big to play by its own rules.”


Announcing the new tariffs during a speech in the Rose Garden on Tuesday, Biden said he seeks “fair competition with China, not conflict.”


“The fact is, American workers can out-work and out-compete anyone, as long as the competition is fair,” Biden said. “For too long, it hasn’t been fair.”


Biden’s predecessor, former President Donald Trump, enacted a sweeping tariff program on $300 billion in Chinese imports during his administration, drawing authority from a provision in US trade law that allows tariffs to be used to stifle competition that would threaten national security interests. That same trade law also requires the effectiveness of such tariff programs to be evaluated every four years, and the Biden administration decision is the result of that study. CNN previously reported on the forthcoming changes.


White House officials said they also redrew the parameters of the program to reflect the Biden administration’s policy priorities, most notably the transition to clean energy.


“China can’t be the only country that produces clean technology for the world we need,” a senior administration official said. “We need diversified, not concentrated, production of our most critical goods and technologies. … That’s the kind of dynamic we think will produce resilient supply chains and clean technology.”


Electric vehicles imported from China will see their tariffs more than quadrupled from 27.5% to 100% – a policy lever meant to challenge Beijing’s practice of encouraging aggressively low pricing by domestic EV manufacturers while levying a 40% tariff on US car imports.


“We’re not going to let China flood our market, making it impossible for American automobile manufacturers to compete fairly,” Biden said on Tuesday.


He added, “Folks, look, I’m determined that the future of electric vehicles will be made in America by union workers, period.”


Chinese manufacturer BYD’s Seagull electric vehicle retails for roughly $10,000, a fraction of what rival American products cost.


“It was important to have a large enough step-up in the tariffs to ensure that we try to level the playing field,” a second senior administration official said.


Beijing has been known to introduce costly counterpunches. Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin told reporters Tuesday that China opposes “the unilateral imposition of tariffs which violate (World Trade Organization) rules, and will take all necessary actions to protect its legitimate rights.”


After Trump unveiled his wide-ranging tariff policy, China slapped tariffs on $101.4 billion in US exports, retaliation that the Brookings Institute estimated affected 294,000
America

Biden acknowledged Tuesday that he expects China will likely retaliate in some way to the newly announced tariffs against Beijing.


“It’s about saving American jobs,” Biden said in an interview with Yahoo Finance posted Tuesday. “I’m sure China will talk a lot about it, but the fact is that China already is … way over their skis on this. I don’t think it’ll lead to any international conflict or anything like that but I think they’ll probably try to figure out how they can raise tariffs maybe on products that are unrelated.”


Responding to news of the impending tariffs, Trump, speaking outside of the New York courtroom where he is standing trial on Tuesday, suggested Biden should have taken these steps at the beginning of his term.


“China is eating our lunch right now,” Trump said outside the courtroom. Asked to respond to Trump’s statement after he signed the tariffs, Biden said his predecessor has “been feeding them a long time.”


The White House has declined to speculate on how Beijing may hit back now. Officials have pointed to parallel investigations by partners in Europe, Brazil and Turkey as bolstering their position.


“China is producing [goods] at a rate and with a trajectory that’s far in excess of any plausible estimate of global demand,” the first senior administration official said.


Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and Secretary of State Antony Blinken each raised that point with Chinese counterparts during formal visits to the country in April. Administration officials discussed releasing the changes in April to set the stage for a tariff speech Biden delivered mid-month, but ultimately held off to preserve the diplomatic visits, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

 

[billyerock123]

In your legal fantasies, yeah.

Real life works differently.

only legal people can get a mail-in ballot .... you give them every bit of information they ask for ... then they check the required information you gave to prove who you are ... if one thing is questionable you are rejected and forced to come in ... thats if you want a mail-in ballot ...thats how it works

 

[Redfish]

only legal people can get a mail-in ballot .... you give them every bit of information they ask for ... then they check the required information you gave to prove who you are ... if one thing is questionable you are rejected and forced to come in ... thats if you want a mail-in ballot ...thats how it works

then why/how did the dems mail ballots to every name on the voter registration list? Did they all apply and qualify for mail in? There are videos of stacks of fake ballots being stuffed into drop boxes, were those videos faked?

 

[Redfish]

no, they haven't... give us a source that is credible ...there aren't any bank records ...there aren't any tax documents there is nothing that's a credible source... none of this crap you are trying to push has been proven to be lies from russians and chinese sources that hasn't any credibility so when are you going bto grow up and stop posting these lies of yours ...

they haven't received one bribe at all now answer the questions I asked you ... you keep dodging the questions and coming up with this bull shit ...we with a brain know this shit you are trying to push never happens... it's all lies coming from the Russians and you know it ... its been established in the house hearings ...here are the facts From your favorite person's AOC statements in the hearings... that caught the people whom you all got your information from... he turned out to be a liar... so stop lying here it never happens... after listing to the actual hearing, please tell me why you keep pushing this fantasy of yours that has been established by the united states house that everything you accuse Biden of was a lie... tell us why you keep pushing it ...

the house committee has bank and corporate records proving the transfer of millions from China to Biden bank accounts. Bank records cannot be faked. Why does the Biden family have hundreds of dummy corporations and hundreds of bank accounts? if not to launder money, why?

 

[Redfish]

I'll wait for your answer about why you keep pushing your lie Redfish or watch you disappear when the facts become available for you ... I'm waiting ...REDFISH

what exactly are you waiting for? the proof has been provided many times, your ignorance is not a valid excuse

 

[Hum Dinger]

In the two elections that happened while I was on active duty back in the seventies, the company commanders ordered every soldier to register and request an absentee ballot from our home county of record. Then they ordered us to vote for our choice in secret and then ordered us to turn in the completed, sealed ballots to the mail clerk to be mailed out. Officers can and should do that to insure the open civilian control of the military.

As you said: "sealed ballots to the mail clerk". The mail clerk then sent them to each soldiers home election district.

If the mail clerk - even an army mail clerk - mishandled them in any way, they'd be liable to go to prison.

That's quite a bit different that having the DOD control elections in the military.

 

[Redfish]

As you said: "sealed ballots to the mail clerk". The mail clerk then sent them to each soldiers home election district.

If the mail clerk - even an army mail clerk - mishandled them in any way, they'd be liable to go to prison.

That's quite a bit different that having the DOD control elections in the military.

absentee or mail in ballots should only be used for overseas military and those who are physically unable to get to the polling places, and they should have to apply for them giving all of their pertinent information. Everyone should vote on election day, no early voting anywhere.

 

[billyerock123]

then why/how did the dems mail ballots to every name on the voter registration list? Did they all apply and qualify for mail in? There are videos of stacks of fake ballots being stuffed into drop boxes, were those videos faked?

You will come up with the stupidest responses ..just amazing how stupid you are … in this case as everybody knows except you, who does’t have a mail-ballot got a letter from the state to all registered voters who didn’t have a mail-in ballot all ready got letter they had to respond to get a ballot … that’s how they did it in my state …your state who knows …you still haven’t answered my question

These are what if it’s all been reported in the 2025 document …

1) what are you going to do if you rely on your social security to live on…if trump stops all payments to the people who rely on it

2) what are you going to do when you have your Medicare removed from you this trump has said many times he’s going to stop it

3 people whose state get the ACA health care get it way cheaply they they ever had … and love it … people in red states do get the discount like the blue states because they refuse the discounts.. you lost your SS, your Medicare and your health care insurance bwhat are you going to do…

 

[billyerock123]

what exactly are you waiting for? the proof has been provided many times, your ignorance is not a valid excuse

No you haven’t … yoy’re still stuck on the ballots and the election being stolen … I prove you so wrong and you keep coming back with the same bull shit … you keep posting you answers on mail-ballots it been establish it never happen … the stolen election, it never happen … you keep coming up with these phony sites … where I have shown you time and time again it’s bull shit …you are posting it… I can’t be any more direct then that your sources are established lies …but you keep using them as if you just prove me wrong … all you have done is proved you can’t comprehend what you have read …I prove to you about Biden crime family doesn’t exist by actual hearing in the house with actual congressmen asking show us your proofn …they haven’ t any … but you come back here with your bull shit sites as if you just win the world stupid award … you have no idea what’s going on … you are led by the ring in your nose by these conspiracy theorists who make shit up … that you just can’t accept they are lying to you … grow up …

 

[billyerock123]

absentee or mail in ballots should only be used for overseas military and those who are physically unable to get to the polling places, and they should have to apply for them giving all of their pertinent information. Everyone should vote on election day, no early voting anywhere.

No I totally disagree …they are perfect to have for the voter the use of the voter who wants one … if you don’t like it, tuff !!! it’s what is the future .. get use to it … its not going to change … now that Harris is running for president when she gets elected and she will get elected … all states will be forced to make it easier for the voter to vote by using mail- ballots more drop boxed per county .. it’s the safest way to vote… you hate it …why ??? because more dems will get a ballot in the mail voting your immoral republicans out of office …republica)(ns are running scared now that Biden has given trump his worst nightmare … Harris running for the president and all your republicans are running scared … and I’m loving it

 

[billyerock123]

the house committee has bank and corporate records proving the transfer of millions from China to Biden bank accounts. Bank records cannot be faked. Why does the Biden family have hundreds of dummy corporations and hundreds of bank accounts? if not to launder money, why?

Stop your lying … they have no such documents at all … in the house hearing on Biden impeachment James comer said he had no such documents … he can’t move the hearing forward because his so call evidence left the country afraid of getting arrested for What??? Lying under oath about the Biden crime family as you call it… so stop your lying..

 

[Faun]

then why/how did the dems mail ballots to every name on the voter registration list? Did they all apply and qualify for mail in? There are videos of stacks of fake ballots being stuffed into drop boxes, were those videos faked?

Depending on the circumstances, it's perfectly legal to drop off multiple ballots.

 

[billyerock123]

Depending on the circumstances, it's perfectly legal to drop off multiple ballots.

I explained to redfish that the dems sent out letters to registered voters because of Covid 19... it was no secret...if they want a Mail-in ballot please respond to that letter .. the hatred of Trump, by the Democrats Voters, they did hate him more than anything on this earth... responded to the letter sent out their request for mail-in ballots ...now the republicans could have done the same and sent out mail-in ballots to their voters, but they were told by trump do not use mail-in ballots... because they will not be counted... trump Fucked himself by stopping the republican voter from getting mail-in ballots told his voters to go in an vote ...when the ballots started coming ito be counted they don't know if the mail-in ballot is from a republican or a democrat ... no voting machine counter just counts democrats or just republicans they count the vote ....so he has no Idea if the ballots being dropped off, which by the way wasn't illegal for a family member to take in grannies and grandpa ballots or the whole neighborhood ballots, by doing them a favor ... there were no laws saying they can't ... but again they don't have republican or democrat tatooed on their for heads... but redfish want to make it they were all democrat ballots ... the guy he has no clue what he's talking about... he uses so many conspiracy therorist sites it just makes you shake your head thinking how could one guy buy into so much bull shit

 

[Redfish]

You will come up with the stupidest responses ..just amazing how stupid you are … in this case as everybody knows except you, who does’t have a mail-ballot got a letter from the state to all registered voters who didn’t have a mail-in ballot all ready got letter they had to respond to get a ballot … that’s how they did it in my state …your state who knows …you still haven’t answered my question

These are what if it’s all been reported in the 2025 document …

1) what are you going to do if you rely on your social security to live on…if trump stops all payments to the people who rely on it

2) what are you going to do when you have your Medicare removed from you this trump has said many times he’s going to stop it

3 people whose state get the ACA health care get it way cheaply they they ever had … and love it … people in red states do get the discount like the blue states because they refuse the discounts.. you lost your SS, your Medicare and your health care insurance bwhat are you going to do…

In my state you have to show valid ID to vote, whether it be on election day, early voting, or absentee vote.

the lie about Trump wanting to end SS is just that, a big lie. he has never said or implied that or that he wants to end medicare and medicaid as you libs have also lied.

please explain why dems voted against a bill that would have allowed only american citizens to vote in american elections.

 

[Redfish]

Stop your lying … they have no such documents at all … in the house hearing on Biden impeachment James comer said he had no such documents … he can’t move the hearing forward because his so call evidence left the country afraid of getting arrested for What??? Lying under oath about the Biden crime family as you call it… so stop your lying..

the bank records have been made public, why the repubs in congress feel sorry for senile joe is not comprehendible. But his fellow dems have now kicked him out so the GOP doesn't need to.

 

[berg80]

I'll wait for your answer about why you keep pushing your lie Redfish or watch you disappear when the facts become available for you ... I'm waiting ...REDFISH

He has belief. He doesn't need facts. Facts have never been a requirement to sustain beliefs for The Following. It's why so many still believe the Big Lie.

 

[Faun]

the bank records have been made public, why the repubs in congress feel sorry for senile joe is not comprehendible. But his fellow dems have now kicked him out so the GOP doesn't need to.

They have no evidence Joe committed any crimes. Comer said so. That's why they didn't impeach him.