The mountain of evidence gets a little higher.

[leftwinger]

***not slowing.

 

[leftwinger]

See col#4. Non matches.

 

[billyerock123]

damn, just two inches over and the nightmare would be over ... practice makes perfect

 

[billyerock123]

damn, just two inches over and the nightmare would be over ... practice makes perfect i guess yiou can say he a picasso has something on common

 

[billyerock123]

Here it is again, the Court hearing. The Blue Crest machines not working, no scans available? Not sure what they did? They can’t produce any records. I listened again just now. 3/4 of the way through it starts up on SIG scans. Since CNN won’t tell you, I have to spoon feed it. State lying and spinning like STAIN are taught is OK to do!*****

the reason CNN or any Credible new agency didn't air it was it never was an issue ... you're making something out of nothing ... don't know of any credible news agency aired it and all the fact checkers explain it, if you were curious ... but we all know you don't like fact checkers cause they tell you the facts and not your truths ...you just listen to the first conspiracy theorist and lose your tiny mind

 

[billyerock123]

the dems cheated, the evidence is clear

Posting Russian and Chinese information that has been deemed as lies doesn't make it the truth now...

 

[billyerock123]

Here it is again, the Court hearing. The Blue Crest machines not working, no scans available? Not sure what they did? They can’t produce any records. I listened again just now. 3/4 of the way through it starts up on SIG scans. Since CNN won’t tell you, I have to spoon feed it. State lying and spinning like STAIN are taught is OK to do!*****

come back and tell us your bull shit when you have facts, not some X poster ranting on X about his made-up facts ... nothing so far that you have posted come from actual people who are credible sources ... you post nothing more than a conspiracy theorist and call it fact ... when you are exposed you start the typical republican rant well it doesn't work that way ... either prove yourself or shut the **** up...

 

[billyerock123]

Supreme Court refuses to take up Trump suit about Wisconsin election results

Donald Trump argued Wisconsin illegally allowed voters to submit their mail ballots via drop boxes because of the coronavirus pandemic.

www.usatoday.com

why dis the refuse

Supreme Court refuses to take up Trump suit about Wisconsin election results

Donald Trump argued Wisconsin illegally allowed voters to submit their mail ballots via drop boxes because of the coronavirus pandemic.

www.usatoday.com

tromp was trying to invalidate mail-in-ballots that came from drop boxes ... ballots that actual voters filled out ...put them into drop boxes according to Wisconsin state laws ... where the Supreme Court ruled that Trump couldn't stop those ballots from being counted ... please tell us what's wrong with the ruling ... are yu saying just because they are mail-in ballots that they shouldn't be counted as a vote

 

[Dragonlady]

BERG's morning TDS. thread, yawn.

Biden can't win, and won't drop out.

Trump can't win and won't drop out.

 

[Redfish]

Liar. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Our grandchildren will be reading about your treasonous cult in school.

LOL, you have it backwards,, but I understand that you are totally brainwashed in left wing bullshit.

 

[Redfish]

Posting Russian and Chinese information that has been deemed as lies doesn't make it the truth now...

so you admit that the dems have been using lies from China and Russia? finally some sense from you.

 

[talksalot]

Trump can't win and won't drop out.

You meant to say, Biden, right?

 

[Faun]

Then the State should be able to produce the scans EH? Cletus? But the couldn’t. Why not? They didnt know in Court. They knew the scan machine was not used. Why is that Einstien? One guy lying on a memo is not a Court hearing. Dismissed till you proved scanned envelope images as proof.


Again, see the Court hearing.

All that proved was they weren't electronically scanned for signature verifications, not that they weren't verifying signatures manually. They did.

 

[talksalot]

why dis the refuse

tromp was trying to invalidate mail-in-ballots that came from drop boxes ... ballots that actual voters filled out ...put them into drop boxes according to Wisconsin state laws ... where the Supreme Court ruled that Trump couldn't stop those ballots from being counted ... please tell us what's wrong with the ruling ... are yu saying just because they are mail-in ballots that they shouldn't be counted as a vote

Unsolicited mail in ballots collected from drop boxes are a recipe for fraud. Biden won several states by very thin margins.
It should have been investigated but it's a little late.

 

[leftwinger]

All that proved was they weren't electronically scanned for signature verifications, not that they weren't verifying signatures manually. They did.

Can’t audit it later. No proof but your word? Without side by side scan vs. registration signature, any double check is gone. Not following GA rules and regulations. Only in big Fulton county? Why was that?

You know it’s BS that late dump of ballots got any SIG review. No paper or video trail exists. Have you no honor whatsoever?

 

[Faun]

Can’t audit it later. No proof but your word? Without side by side scan vs. registration signature, any double check is gone. Not following GA rules and regulations. Only in big Fulton county? Why was that?

You know it’s BS that late dump of ballots got any SIG review. No paper or video trail exists. Have you no honor whatsoever?

Again, they were counted manually. This is from Mark Wingate, one of the observers present...

https://t.co/eAwofVOZxd

Well it [BlueCrest scanner] was never used, we couldn’t get it to work, as I was stated… From Runbeck and because of that they gave up on the process and of the 147,000 absentee paper ballots that were processed in I just think that for the record it just needs to be known that all of those were derived by a manual process.​

And yes, you can audit later. You can't determine how a person with a bad signature voted, but you can determine if there were enough bad signatures to affect the outcome of the election.

 

[billyerock123]

LOL, you have it backwards,, but I understand that you are totally brainwashed in left wing bullshit.

what are you going to do when the republicans take away your social security ???? what are you going to do when they take away your Medicare... ??? tell us how we are brainwashed when JD Vance and Trump, dump the Constitution .so he can stay in power .. what if this short list of things I have told you is true ...where you call it left-wing bull shit... what are you going to do if it's true ... ...

 

[billyerock123]

so you admit that the dems have been using lies from China and Russia? finally some sense from you. finally some sense from you.

you need to stop spinning what I said ... I never said dems have been using lies from China and Russia? never said never implied it
heres the conversation you liar

you said:

the dems cheated, the evidence is clear

this was me responding to your banter ....
Posting Russian and Chinese information that has been deemed as lies doesn't make it the truth ...

how is that saying: "so you admit that the dems have been using lies from China and Russia?" in your twisted mind

why do you distort what's being said do you think you're looking clever ??? do you think you are getting us mad ??? well, you would be wrong in both of your thoughts ... grow up ...

 

[billyerock123]

Unsolicited mail in ballots collected from drop boxes are a recipe for fraud. Biden won several states by very thin margins.
It should have been investigated but it's a little late.

where do you get these unsolicited mail-in ballots
Wisconsin.

1. Trump did not win Wisconsin in the 2020 presidential election​

Let’s start with a falsehood that Trump has often repeated: that he won the battleground state of Wisconsin in 2020.

Ahead of his first Wisconsin rally of this campaign cycle in Green Bay, Trump said “we did much better” in 2020 compared to 2016. He said something similar at a rally in Racine last month.

But that’s not true: Trump did win Wisconsin in 2016 by more than 22,000 votes, but he lost in 2020 by just under 21,000 votes.

PolitiFact Wisconsin also checked this claim in 2021, outlining how recounts in heavily Democratic Milwaukee and Dane counties only led to Trump falling further behind President Joe Biden. We checked it in 2020, too.

2. No ‘ballot dump’ in Milwaukee, Republicans rejected processing absentee ballots earlier​

Trump often focuses his claims of fraud in the 2020 election on Milwaukee’s absentee ballots.

Around 3:30 a.m. the morning after Election Day, Milwaukee reported its absentee ballot results, which heavily favored Biden.

That led to claims about “voter fraud” or a “ballot dump.” Trump claimed the totals came when Milwaukee “learned (Biden) was losing badly.”

It’s not a surprise that Milwaukee voted heavily for Biden — it’s a longtime Democratic stronghold.

But the timing element is important here: The Milwaukee Election Commission said months before the election that they probably wouldn’t finish counting absentee ballots until the early morning hours.

That’s because Wisconsin law doesn’t allow clerks to start processing absentee ballots until Election Day, and Milwaukee had a lot of those ballots in 2020 during the pandemic.

Ahead of the 2024 election, a group of bipartisan lawmakers tried again to allow clerks to start processing absentee ballots a day early to prevent perceptions of a ballot dump. The measure passed the Assembly, but got held up by Republicans in the Senate.

Trump also claimed that a Milwaukee election official “acknowledged dropping off just the margin of ballots needed for a Biden win at 3:00 a.m.”

The Milwaukee Election Commission’s Claire Woodall — who has since been replaced — had responded to an email from an election consultant who said Woodall delivered the margin at 3 a.m.

Woodall later called the email "a very inappropriate joke" but not evidence of an attempt to steer the election to Biden.

3. Other false claims about 2020 election, including that Republicans didn’t investigate​

Trump has also incorrectly claimed that a 2022 Wisconsin Supreme Court ruling that declared drop boxes illegal applied retroactively to the 2020 election.

It didn’t. And the court reversed that decision earlier this month, allowing for drop boxes in Wisconsin this fall.

Trump also missed the mark when he said Republican lawmakers, including Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, were “working hard to cover up election corruption in Wisconsin.”

In fact, Republican leaders did take steps to investigate the 2020 election – and faced criticism for using taxpayer dollars to do so.

They requested an audit by the nonpartisan Legislative Audit Bureau, and Vos hired former Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman to investigate the election.

Gableman’s review cost nearly $2.5 million while turning up little new information and failing to show evidence that the 2020 election was incorrectly called.

4. Trump was correct on absentee ballot ‘spoiling’, but that’s since changed​

Looking back in our PolitiFact Wisconsin archives, Trump was right about one aspect of absentee voting in Wisconsin — at the time.

In the final week of his 2016 campaign, Trump said Wisconsin is “is one of several states where you can change your early ballot if you think you've made a mistake.”

That process is known as “spoiling” and was an option for voters who made a mistake or changed their mind about who they voted for. That typically involved contacting or visiting the clerk’s office to request a new ballot.

Trump was correct when he made that claim in 2016. But the latest guidelines say clerks cannot “return or spoil an otherwise complete, undamaged absentee ballot that was properly previously returned by an elector.”

So, as long as the absentee ballot is complete and in acceptable condition, the voter can’t possess the ballot again. That guidance changed after a Republican-backed group challenged Wisconsin’s spoiling process in court.

5. Trump missed when blaming Foxconn’s failures on pandemic​

Let’s move on from Trump’s election claims and focus on another topic familiar to Wisconsin voters: Foxconn.

About two years after Trump attended the groundbreaking for the tech company, he was asked in a local interview about Foxconn’s lack of progress toward its promises, such as creating up to 13,000 jobs.

"No. 1, you had a pandemic,” Trump said as an explanation. But Foxconn began falling short long before the pandemic started in 2020.

“The pre-pandemic job creation numbers submitted by Foxconn for 2018 and 2019 fell short of the minimum for each year,” a statement from WEDC Secretary and CEO Missy Hughes said in part.

Since then, Biden’s campaign has contrasted the unfulfilled promises of Foxconn with the expansion of Microsoft’s data center in Mount Pleasant, which is being built on the land that Foxconn was initially expected to use.

6. Trump has falsely taken credit for ‘saving’ Kenosha during violent unrest in 2020​

Here’s a claim Trump repeated at his rally in Racine earlier this summer: that he “saved” Kenosha and the “governor wouldn’t move” on sending the National Guard. We checked a similar claim in 2020.

Kenosha was rocked by civil unrest in 2020 after a police officer shot Jacob Blake, a Black man, seven times. The officer was not criminally charged.

PolitiFact Wisconsin pointed out three things: protests occurred in a limited area compared to the entire city, other factors like a drop in the number of people with firearms reduced violence, and Democratic Gov. Tony Evers called in the National Guard before the Trump administration got involved.

After the Kyle Rittenhouse shootings, Evers increased National Guard troop numbers from 250 to 500. Evers also accepted federal troops from the Trump administration, after initially turning down federal help.

7. Trump’s claim about sanctuary cities in Wisconsin has some nuance​

You can bet that immigration will be a topic of discussion at the RNC. And Trump has made claims about “sanctuary cities” in Wisconsin that fell in the middle of the Truth-O-Meter.

At a 2020 rally in Milwaukee, Trump claimed Madison and Milwaukee County both carried sanctuary status for undocumented immigrants.

Neither the City of Milwaukee, Milwaukee County or Madison were formally considered “sanctuary cities,” and there’s nothing to indicate that’s changed. As we noted previously, “sanctuary city” is a political term, rather than a legal one.

But those local governments have adopted policies to protect immigrants that fit the meaning of the term, such as Milwaukee Public Schools declaring itself a “safe haven” for undocumented students and families.

Trump also claimed the two cities have released undocumented immigrants who have committed multiple crimes, including sexual assault.

There was a case in Dane County that matched that claim, but Trump’s team never provided specifics about cases in Milwaukee and local officials did not have enough information to determine what he was referring to.

8. Trump wasn’t the first Republican to win Wisconsin since Eisenhower​

Finally, here’s an interesting look back at the state’s Republican voting history ahead of the RNC.

In 2018, Trump claimed his 2016 victory in Wisconsin was the first time a Republican had won the state since Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952. He also claimed Ronald Reagan didn’t win Wisconsin.

Both his claims were false. Wisconsin did vote for Eisenhower in 1952 and 1956. But then Wisconsin voted for Richard Nixon in 1960, 1968 and 1972 and for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984.

​

 

[Faun]

you need to stop spinning what I said ... I never said dems have been using lies from China and Russia? never said never implied it
heres the conversation you liar

you said:

this was me responding to your banter ....
Posting Russian and Chinese information that has been deemed as lies doesn't make it the truth ...

how is that saying: "so you admit that the dems have been using lies from China and Russia?" in your twisted mind

why do you distort what's being said do you think you're looking clever ??? do you think you are getting us mad ??? well, you would be wrong in both of your thoughts ... grow up ...

What do you expect from a lying welsher?

nope, back to the original bet or nothing. Trump wins, you leave, Biden wins, I leave.

The bet still stands. and if old senile pervert Joe wins, I am leaving.

If the EC votes for Biden I am out of here for good, that was the bet and I will totally honor it.

as to my bet, if Biden is sworn in I will leave, unlike you libtards I honor my word.

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