The Moral Idiocy of Gun Control

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The Moral Idiocy of Gun Control

Is it more moral to own a gun or to pay someone else to do it for you?
4 Jun 2022 ~~ By Daniel Greenfield

I was chatting with a horrified Swedish visitor who described a visit to Nevada.
ā€œThere was this grandmother, an elderly lady, and she took out a gun from her purse,ā€ he told me, shaking his head.
We were having this conversation in a city which had racked up 77 shootings in just one month.
Few New Yorkers legally own guns. The NYPD has issued around 40,000 handgun permits in a city of over 8 million. Thatā€™s around one handgun for every two-hundred New Yorkers.
Donā€™t assume that the parts of the city with the most guns are the most dangerous.
The vast majority of handgun permits are in Staten Island, which has the lowest crime rate in the city, as opposed to the Bronx, with the highest. Manhattan has few legal guns relative to its population while the white working class areas of Brooklyn have some of the most legal guns.
~Snip~
But New Yorkers, like most big city dwellers, live surrounded by guns. These arenā€™t the guns that ride on trucks or sit in sporting goods store displays. Theyā€™re the guns flashed by a mugger under his heavy down winter coat, or shot by rival gang members exchanging fire in the 73rd precinct in Brooklyn which accounted for around 100 shootings in just one year alone.
And there are the guns worn more openly by the army of police officers, security guards, bodyguards, and others, many of whom live on Staten Island, who are hired to keep New Yorkers safe. Two years ago, Bond, an app that some have called 'Uber for Bodyguards' debuted, allowing New Yorkers to order their own security personnel. New Yorkers, who disdain guns, instead tap an app for bodyguards to escort them from their train stop to their office.
~Snip~
Gun control culture means paying men with guns between $50,000 to $85,000 a year in the hopes that theyā€™ll show up in under 10 minutes and do something useful when you call 911.
That strategy didnā€™t work very well in Uvalde. It doesnā€™t work all that well most of the time.
Before Uvalde, in the recent Buffalo mass shooting, a 911 operator hung up on a store employee calling for help. The cops arrived in 5 minutes: in time to talk the shooter out of killing himself in front of the store so that taxpayers can pay for his trial and a 50-year prison term.
~Snip~
The sharp division between gun culture and gun control culture is the border of an affected distancing from lifeā€™s realities. Gun controllers arenā€™t necessarily physical cowards, but they are moral cowards.
The same sorts of people who think guns are ā€˜ickyā€™ also donā€™t want to know where their meat comes from or to see the soldiers who come back from the wars. These are things that they pay other people to do because it preserves their illusions about the world and about themselves.
~Snip~
Gun ownership is an act of personal responsibility. By buying and owning a firearm, a man is saying that he also intends to take ownership of his personal safety and his choices. That doesnā€™t always end happily, but thereā€™s far more moral self-awareness in that choice than there is in urban elites who hate guns paying the gun owners they despise to keep them safe.
The one thing we absolutely own in this world are our choices.
Gun control isnā€™t about stopping gun violence, but disavowing moral responsibility for preventing it, passing the buck to the cops, to society, and to some force outside our control. Gun control rallies are the virtue signaling of moral cowards seeking to blame someone else for horrors that they cannot cope with and that they do not intend to take any personal action to prevent.
Disarmament, national or personal, is not a moral stance, but the abandonment of morality.
Gun controllers have had a field day with the inaction of the Uvalde cops, but it never occurs to them thatā€™s who they are, standing around, wringing their hands and waiting for someone to tell them what the plan is, so they donā€™t have to make any difficult choices in the face of a crisis.
Gun control is the moral idiocy of the irresponsible blaming those who have taken responsibility.


Commentary:
Attempting to interject morality as a gun control issue to our PM/DSA Democrat Leftist enemies defies logic. They are absent all morals and logic
All while the people scream for relief from massive, uncheckable crime waves across the country.
So, the Feds want to create a national police force, answerable only to the bureaucrats of the Federal government to come in and take care of the problem, and then we will have absolute tyranny.
 
We have 30,000 gun deaths a year....

Most countries with gun control have in the low hundreds if that much.

And they are the ones doing it wrong?
 
When I wrote Excellent post well stated I was referring to the original post of the thread.
 

Few New Yorkers legally own guns.​



The operative word here being "legally"!!!!

More New Yorkers have guns than most Southerners! And are obtained illegally.
Just like in Chicago and LA. Crime central cities, with massive, heavy gun fire and murders on a daily basis.
And yet, most of these guns that are used are NOT legally obtained!
 
Gun control isnā€™t about stopping gun violence, but disavowing moral responsibility for preventing it, passing the buck to the cops, to society, and to some force outside our control.
This is a lie and fails as a strawman fallacy.

Moral idiocy manifests among the right, conservativesā€™ unwarranted opposition to address gun crime and violence and to consider solutions having nothing to do with the regulation of firearms.

ā€˜Gun cultureā€™ is the reckless, reprehensible desire to do nothing.
 
We have 30,000 gun deaths a year....

Most countries with gun control have in the low hundreds if that much.

And they are the ones doing it wrong?
Conservatives are the ones doing nothing to address the problem.

Instead they resort to ridiculous demagoguery ā€“ with lies about ā€˜bansā€™ and ā€˜confiscations.ā€™
 

The Moral Idiocy of Gun Control

Is it more moral to own a gun or to pay someone else to do it for you?
4 Jun 2022 ~~ By Daniel Greenfield

I was chatting with a horrified Swedish visitor who described a visit to Nevada.
ā€œThere was this grandmother, an elderly lady, and she took out a gun from her purse,ā€ he told me, shaking his head.
We were having this conversation in a city which had racked up 77 shootings in just one month.
Few New Yorkers legally own guns. The NYPD has issued around 40,000 handgun permits in a city of over 8 million. Thatā€™s around one handgun for every two-hundred New Yorkers.
Donā€™t assume that the parts of the city with the most guns are the most dangerous.
The vast majority of handgun permits are in Staten Island, which has the lowest crime rate in the city, as opposed to the Bronx, with the highest. Manhattan has few legal guns relative to its population while the white working class areas of Brooklyn have some of the most legal guns.
~Snip~
But New Yorkers, like most big city dwellers, live surrounded by guns. These arenā€™t the guns that ride on trucks or sit in sporting goods store displays. Theyā€™re the guns flashed by a mugger under his heavy down winter coat, or shot by rival gang members exchanging fire in the 73rd precinct in Brooklyn which accounted for around 100 shootings in just one year alone.
And there are the guns worn more openly by the army of police officers, security guards, bodyguards, and others, many of whom live on Staten Island, who are hired to keep New Yorkers safe. Two years ago, Bond, an app that some have called 'Uber for Bodyguards' debuted, allowing New Yorkers to order their own security personnel. New Yorkers, who disdain guns, instead tap an app for bodyguards to escort them from their train stop to their office.
~Snip~
Gun control culture means paying men with guns between $50,000 to $85,000 a year in the hopes that theyā€™ll show up in under 10 minutes and do something useful when you call 911.
That strategy didnā€™t work very well in Uvalde. It doesnā€™t work all that well most of the time.
Before Uvalde, in the recent Buffalo mass shooting, a 911 operator hung up on a store employee calling for help. The cops arrived in 5 minutes: in time to talk the shooter out of killing himself in front of the store so that taxpayers can pay for his trial and a 50-year prison term.
~Snip~
The sharp division between gun culture and gun control culture is the border of an affected distancing from lifeā€™s realities. Gun controllers arenā€™t necessarily physical cowards, but they are moral cowards.
The same sorts of people who think guns are ā€˜ickyā€™ also donā€™t want to know where their meat comes from or to see the soldiers who come back from the wars. These are things that they pay other people to do because it preserves their illusions about the world and about themselves.
~Snip~
Gun ownership is an act of personal responsibility. By buying and owning a firearm, a man is saying that he also intends to take ownership of his personal safety and his choices. That doesnā€™t always end happily, but thereā€™s far more moral self-awareness in that choice than there is in urban elites who hate guns paying the gun owners they despise to keep them safe.
The one thing we absolutely own in this world are our choices.
Gun control isnā€™t about stopping gun violence, but disavowing moral responsibility for preventing it, passing the buck to the cops, to society, and to some force outside our control. Gun control rallies are the virtue signaling of moral cowards seeking to blame someone else for horrors that they cannot cope with and that they do not intend to take any personal action to prevent.
Disarmament, national or personal, is not a moral stance, but the abandonment of morality.
Gun controllers have had a field day with the inaction of the Uvalde cops, but it never occurs to them thatā€™s who they are, standing around, wringing their hands and waiting for someone to tell them what the plan is, so they donā€™t have to make any difficult choices in the face of a crisis.
Gun control is the moral idiocy of the irresponsible blaming those who have taken responsibility.


Commentary:
Attempting to interject morality as a gun control issue to our PM/DSA Democrat Leftist enemies defies logic. They are absent all morals and logic
All while the people scream for relief from massive, uncheckable crime waves across the country.
So, the Feds want to create a national police force, answerable only to the bureaucrats of the Federal government to come in and take care of the problem, and then we will have absolute tyranny.

Greenfield politicizes everything. He doesn't care about guns or children or morality.
 
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We have 30,000 gun deaths a year....

Most countries with gun control have in the low hundreds if that much.

And they are the ones doing it wrong?

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Then you have to explain why more homicides are attributed to hammers. knives and axes?
Crime and murder have not been reduced in any country with "Complete Bans on Guns".

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Then you have to explain why more homicides are attributed to hammers. knives and axes?
Crime and murder have not been reduced in any country with "Complete Bans on Guns".

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Thanks again for proving my point.

When you can itemize the few acts of gun violence in other nations...there is no greater sign that they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.
 
Conservatives are the ones doing nothing to address the problem.

Instead they resort to ridiculous demagoguery ā€“ with lies about ā€˜bansā€™ and ā€˜confiscations.ā€™


It is about bans and confiscations. The goal the Liberal Control Freaks is to make it prohibitive for ordinary law abiders to actually exercise their right to keep and bear arms and protect themselves.

Gun Control does nothing to prevent Criminals from possessing guns.

Riddle me this, Jonesy. If when he was approached by thugs in the the hell hole called the New York City subway, what would have happened to Bernard Goetz if he hadn't been armed at all? Suppose he would have just told the thugs to "go Fuck themselves" when they approached him instead of what he actually did.

Could the libs have guaranteed Goetz's safety if he did things their way?
 

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