Lysistrata
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Do car bombings stop during ramadan?
They probably offer big discounts on suicide vests for children at this time of year.
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What a sick, sick thing to say. Pathetic.
Reality can be harsh:
Children as Suicide Bombers in Islamic Countries
One Pakistani recruiter of child suicide bombers describes these children as "tools provided by God." Another Muslim cleric in a madrassa [Islamic boys' school] describes child suicide bombers as "a gift from Allah that we have an unlimited numberwww.gatestoneinstitute.org
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The radical Islamist movement is not part of mainstream Islam. Think southern baptist on steroids in comparison to mainstream Christianity.
Is that the same with the treatment of women, gays, honor killings, terrorist attacks in the name of islam???
Isn't it true that sunnis and shites would be happy to kill each other off? Isn't there a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia presently on-going??
Man you are so full of shit.
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Yes, gays are brutally treated in many Arab countries. (In one of the Indonesian islands recently, two young gay men were brutally whipped,)
But it is necessary to remember a few things.
1. In Syria, for example, gays -- I have read -- were quietly tolerated so long as they stayed in the closet. (That was the situation before the Civil War at least.)
2. Christians in Europe & the U.S. until recently were also harsh in their treatment of gay people.
a. After World War II, the Allied forces freed all the concentration camp inmates-- EXCEPT men who had been sent there for violating Nazi anti-gay laws.
b. The Englishman who helped saved his country from Nazi invasion was discovered to be gay after the war. He was offered jail or chemical castration. He chose the latter. A few years later, he apparently committed suicide.
c. Here in the States, the police regularly entrapped thousands of gay men, resulting in many of them losing their jobs. New York City cops would even urge landlords to evict gay tenants.
3. Today many countries in Africa brutally treat gays. It is said that some Christian missionaries from the United States urge those countries to do so.
I think your heart is in the right place but to equate the treatment of gays in islamic countries with how they were treated in Western countries is naive. Even if we agree that past practices were wrong you can't explain why this is still the practice in islamic countries TODAY!
Care to venture an opinion on the treatment of women in islamic countries?
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You mention TODAY.
Yes, you are correct, the Middle East is currently behind the West in its treatment of gays.
But kindly remember that cultures change at different speeds.
While the West was brutalizing gays, there were AT THE SAME various cultures in this world that did not persecute gays.
It took to the 1960s for America and most of Europe (with notable exceptions) to catch up with those cultures that had never persecuted gays.
Let's all hope that the younger people in the Middle East (and Africa) will help move their societies toward more tolerance.
Let's hope that the younger generations here in the US do the same. Quick story: I lived in an apartment complex in northern Virginia and had neighbors who were attached to the Pakistani Embassy. The husband used to visit me and sit in my rocking chair sipping a glass of pinot grigio (don't tell the wife!) while we discussed politics, religion, etc. He had been stationed before in Pyongyang and Ghana. I learned a lot. Unfortunately, his wife did not speak English, although she seemed well-educated. I once loaded him in the back of my little black Mercury Cougar hatchback (such a lemon), and with his wife in the front seat, I took off. What they got, after his wife and I joked through the language barrier that maybe we shouldn't let him out of the back seat, was a guided tour of Ford's Theater and the Peterson House across the street where Lincoln died. They seemed to be in awe of the whole thing and his wife, through her husband, peppered me with questions while looking at the artifacts in the basement museum. Interesting day.
Sometime later, I lent him money to pay for an operation for his father in Pakistan. The day that it was supposed to be repaid came and went. A few weeks later, he showed up with his checkbook and fresh-cooked goodies from his wife. He said that his wife wanted to know why I didn't come over and demand the money back. I just told him that I knew that they didn't have it then and that there was no need to embarrass them since I knew that when they had it, I would get it. I sized them up for being honorable people, and they were.