The market is starting to collapse

[DGS49]

Donald Trump owns no stock in publicly traded companies, and pays little attention to the fluctuations of the DOW, S&P, NASDAQ, etc.

He figures that if he promotes prosperity, the stock market will take care of itself.

Many of his current activities will have quick but meaningless impacts on the markets, but they all promote general prosperity. Not to worry.

 

[MarathonMike]

The important thing is that they put "their money where their mouths are".

So you only invest in pro Green Energy and anti-Trump stocks Banker? LOL you are so full of crap.

 

[DGS49]

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Entrepreneurs, especially those who own hundreds of legal entities, do not keep score by counting bankruptcies, failures, or lost investments. They keep score by net worth. Donald Trump owns more than a billion dollars in PERSONAL RESIDENCES. His net worth is reliably estimated at something north of seven billion dollars.

He is doing fine. To imply that he is a failure, or he is not a good businessman based on the above graphic is the work of someone who, I dare say, has never had a real job or made a substantial investment in anything.

 

[Natural Citizen]

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The Market just needs time to 'correct' itself ... ​

Yes, it will. In time. In the mean time, patching the leaks in the bubble with artificial interest rates and all of the other bubba fixes shouldn't be construed as a correction, though. I agree with you that the market itself will decide. But the spackle crew is only creating a bigger bubble in the mean time, and the leaks will keep springing...until the market itself finally decides what's gonna be what.

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Lol. I've never seen that movie. i wasn't ready for the guy getting smacked in the face with the hammer, almost fell out of my seat laughing.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Leet me explain something that is education 101 with humans.

Humans are by nature liars, frauds, and corrupt. When you say that Trump and Musk are finding fraud and waste, it goes without saying because if you look closely, you can find fraud and waste in each and every administration. As such, the probabilities favor the fraud and waste from the last administration is going to be replaced (not thrown out) by Trump's and Musk's fraud and waste.

What is worse, is given that Musk and Trump (especially the latter) have shown huge amount of waste and fraud in the past, chances are that the fraud and waste "to come" will be larger and more hidden, given that both (especially Trump) are proven liars.

Last but not least and already being proven, is that what they say is not all that true and real. That they have lied about how much fraud and waste they have found,

Both Trump and Musk have shown incompetence (Musk with X and Trump on numerous occasions with many failed companies) and as such, their actions are going to be by nature destructive and not constructive.

End of story

Alright then.

In the mean time I'm just gonna default to my previous thought in things. I don't like standing so close to the picture. Can't really see it the whole thing...

 

[BlackSand]

Yes, it will. In time. In the mean time, patching it with artificial interest rates and all of the other bubba fixes shouldn't be construed as a correction. The market itself will decide. Not the spackle crew...

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Well ... You are starting to talk about the Fed there ... Good luck with that ...
Hope it gets you more than anything I am counting on from them.

It's not like I ever suggested they had the people's interests in mind ... When they start messing in the market.
They're a bunch elitist ... Who think of the people as peons ... And aren't required to think otherwise.
It's just more government ... And farther away from a free market.

But you are correct that it is artificial influences ...
But they're already the fuckers creating the imaginary currency ...

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Lol. I've never seen that movie. i wasn't ready for the guy getting smacked in the face with the hammer, almost fell out of my seat laughing.

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Yep ... And if they can feel safer dodging the wrench you threw at them ... They'll start dodging everything else ...
And fall right back into the same old pile of shit ... That put them in a jam in the first place.

But you cannot help people like that ... You would have to fight nature and natural human behavior ...
Because they would rather feel safe ... Act like they are accomplishing something ... And blame someone else for their failures.

There went a truth ... Dodge that wrench ...

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[BlackSand]

I will save this for you.

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I don't know why ... Because whatever you are thinking is irrelevant ...
And you don't even have a clue what I need or want ...
And it's not even anything you could think of ...

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[BlackSand]

Entrepreneurs, especially those who own hundreds of legal entities, do not keep score by counting bankruptcies, failures, or lost investments. They keep score by net worth. Donald Trump owns more than a billion dollars in PERSONAL RESIDENCES. His net worth is reliably estimated at something north of seven billion dollars.

He is doing fine. To imply that he is a failure, or he is not a good businessman based on the above graphic is the work of someone who, I dare say, has never had a real job or made a substantial investment in anything.

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Everyone fails every now and again ... And it only makes a difference if you get back up ...
Learn from your mistakes and get back to it ... With the understanding that you might fail again ...

But that's not really how the rats in the rat race work ...
They would just rather be led through maze in search of food ...
And find comfort and complacency in that,
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[Natural Citizen]

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Well ... You are starting to talk about the Fed there ... Good luck with that ...​

Well you have to if you're being both serious and sincere about it. It's directly relevant.

Hope it gets you more than anything I am counting on from them.
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I've very little stake in it. I'm just stating the facts in the interest of invoking relevance. I didn't ask for anything, so not looking to get anything.

It's not like I ever suggested they had the people's interests in mind ... When they start messing in the market.​

Yes, I know that you didn't.

They're a bunch elitist ... Who think of the people as peons ... And aren't required to think otherwise.
It's just more government ... And farther away from a free market.​

Yep.

But you are correct that it is artificial influences ...
But they're already the fuckers creating the imaginary currency ... ​

Yes, that's primarily why the market is so distored. One of the consequences of inflating the currency supply.

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Yep ... And if they can feel safer dodging the wrench you threw at them ... They'll start dodging everything else ...
And fall right back into the same old pile of shit ... That put them in a jam in the first place.

But you cannot help people like that ... You would have to fight nature and natural human behavior ...
Because they would rather feel safe ... Act like they are accomplishing something ... And blame someone else for their failures.

There went a truth ... Dodge that wrench ...

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Indeed...

 

[BlackSand]

Well you have to if you're being both serious and sincere about it. It's directly relevant.

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Well ... How relevant it is to your business and your investments ...
Is only going to define the extent to which you are seriously screwed ...
Because there is literally not a damn thing you can do about ...
Other than limit and control your own exposure to the consequences.

Stop waiting for the government to fix itself ...
Because it is not going to ... And couldn't if it tried ...
You have to do what you can to make it irrelevant to you and your well-being.

Dodge again ... There goes another one of those damn wrenches ...

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Hope you don't mind if I just leave that one right there for you ...
At least we can agree on a few things.

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[debbiedowner]

Donald Trump owns no stock in publicly traded companies, and pays little attention to the fluctuations of the DOW, S&P, NASDAQ, etc.

He figures that if he promotes prosperity, the stock market will take care of itself.

Many of his current activities will have quick but meaningless impacts on the markets, but they all promote general prosperity. Not to worry.

Sure he does.

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• Trump Media & Technology Group Corp. (ticker: DJT)
• Apple Inc. (AAPL)
• Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)
• Nvidia Corp. (NVDA)
• Amazon Inc. (AMZN)
• Alphabet Inc. (GOOG, GOOGL)
• Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK.B)
• Broadcom Inc. (AVGO)

 

[Natural Citizen]

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Well ... How relevant it is to your business and your investments ...
Is only going to define the extent to which you are seriously screwed ...
Because there is literally not a damn thing you can do about ...
Other than limit and control your own exposure to the consequences.

Dodge again ... There goes another one of those damn wrenches ...

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Yeah, no shit.

But again. It will be the market itself which decides. Not the spackle crew. That was my point.

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Hope you don't mind if I just leave that one right there for you ...
At least we can agree on a few things.

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So long as we all agree that we should all be free, that's all that really matters anyway.

 

[BlackSand]

So long as we all agree that we should all be free, that's all that really matters anyway.

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Amen to that brother ... Just with the reminder that the person has to take that step themselves ...
And no one else can do it for them ...

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[Robert W]

Sure he does.

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• Trump Media & Technology Group Corp. (ticker: DJT)
• Apple Inc. (AAPL)
• Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)
• Nvidia Corp. (NVDA)
• Amazon Inc. (AMZN)
• Alphabet Inc. (GOOG, GOOGL)
• Berkshire Hathaway Inc. (BRK.B)
• Broadcom Inc. (AVGO)

You actually mean that Trump wants stocks to increase in price? Because he has skin in the game!!!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Donald Trump owns no stock in publicly traded companies, and pays little attention to the fluctuations of the DOW, S&P, NASDAQ, etc.

He figures that if he promotes prosperity, the stock market will take care of itself.

Many of his current activities will have quick but meaningless impacts on the markets, but they all promote general prosperity. Not to worry.

No, they don't. All of the main players are foreseeing economic difficulties.

 

[Cougarbear]

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So, out of 14 you listed, only 4 bankruptcies? So, why didn't the other 10 end up in bankruptcy court? Because they didn't fail? Maybe he sold them off like entrepreneurs do? He's worth 5 billion dollars. Oh, such a failure LOL!!! His first term was a huge success. His second term is starting off successful.

 

[debbiedowner]

You actually mean that Trump wants stocks to increase in price? Because he has skin in the game!!!

Hey goober it's been up and down now for a couple weeks ever since he started playing games with tariff's, yes it does benefit him.

 

[Luckyone]

So, out of 14 you listed, only 4 bankruptcies? So, why didn't the other 10 end up in bankruptcy court? Because they didn't fail? Maybe he sold them off like entrepreneurs do? He's worth 5 billion dollars. Oh, such a failure LOL!!! His first term was a huge success. His second term is starting off successful.

No, they failed. He simply closed them because they were losing money. Failure does not necessarily mean bankruptcy.

Why don't you do the research needed to get the answers before you post something so misinformed as this.

For example and on doing research:

Trump Vodka: The Rise and Fall of a Presidential Drink​

Trump Vodka, an American brand introduced in the mid-2000s, was produced initially in the Netherlands and later in Germany by Drinks Americas. The spirit was developed under license from the Trump Organization, adding to the wide array of products associated with the Trump brand during its heyday. Launched in the United States in 2005, Trump Vodka gained attention for its luxurious image, but ultimately failed to reach the required distribution levels and ceased production under the Trump name in 2011.

 

[Cougarbear]

No, they failed. He simply closed them because they were losing money. Failure does not necessarily mean bankruptcy.

Why don't you do the research needed to get the answers before you post something so misinformed as this.

For example and on doing research:

Trump Vodka: The Rise and Fall of a Presidential Drink​

Trump Vodka, an American brand introduced in the mid-2000s, was produced initially in the Netherlands and later in Germany by Drinks Americas. The spirit was developed under license from the Trump Organization, adding to the wide array of products associated with the Trump brand during its heyday. Launched in the United States in 2005, Trump Vodka gained attention for its luxurious image, but ultimately failed to reach the required distribution levels and ceased production under the Trump name in 2011.

So what if they were losing money. Doesn't mean because of the lack of knowledge or anything bad. 90% of new businesses fail int he first 5 years. The one's left, 90% of they fail in the next 5 years. Entrepreneurs try lots of thing during their life times. Some are successful and some are not. So what? And, if some require bankruptcy, that's what that law is in place for. So what? Doesn't mean the business was run poorly. Horse and buggy companies were doing great until something else came along that made them obsolete. Some just closed their doors and others filed bankruptcy. It wasn't because they were bad leaders of their companies. You are just grasping for straws.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Today:

This was a big and likely indicative day. The DOW broke below 2 previous daily closing highs of importance that strongly suggest (if confirmed tomorrow) that the 200-day MA, currently at 41813 (1400 points lower), will become a viable target. The NASDAQ broke a pivotal daily close support at 20847 that was also very pivotal and that suggests the 20186 level will likely be seen tomorrow (200-day MA is there) and if the index closes tomorrow (Friday) below 20391, it could mean a lot more downside is to come.

The SPX is the only one that did not break anything of consequence today but is only 34 points away from breaking 2 levels of pivotal importance at 5836 and at 5827. The channel line I have been mentioning is only 50 points away (below).

One of the culprits today and that triggered a lot of the selling was NVDA, It reported earnings last night and though they were slightly better than expected and the stock opened slightly higher, the stock closed 9% lower and broke the 200-day MA. If the stock closes lower tomorrow by more than $.08 cents, a pivotal weekly close support level will be broken and if it closes $4.50 lower tomorrow a big sell signal on the daily closing chart will occur that will also confirm the break of the 200-day MA and generate a trend change.

Most (if not all) of the movement down seen the last 2 weeks, has been due to Trump's action.

One thing everyone here (especially the blind-by-choice Trump supporters) is that was in involved with the stock market is well-informed moneyed pockets. This is not people opening their mouths to opine but people putting their money where their mouths are. As such, these moves are indicative and these moves show that the moneyed people are worried and even negative as to what is to come to the nation's economy.

Bear that in mind.

This is why trump stopped his crazy tariffs again. He hasnt got a plan.