A lot of people have worked their fucking asses off. Be glad it worked out for you.
I liked it the way it was before Ronald Reagan slashed rates for the rich and quadrupled the national debt. they're gonna spend by god they should tax to cover it:
..............................................Total U S Debt................................................
Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt
US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?
09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
Look Closely At The Upper 1% Line at the End of Clinton's Two Terms....Then Bush Cut Taxes For His Rich Oil Buds Not Once But Twice....2001 and 2003
Notice That The Lower Half Of All Earners Have Lost Purchasing Power Since 1979!
So you really want to go back to pre-Reagan tax rates?
You do realize that the lowest bracket was 14% not 10 and that if you were singlr making 45K a year you would be in the 55% bracket
Be careful what you wish for
I'm 81 years old. Back in the day anyone who made more than $300,000 a year paid 91% of the excess in taxes. The only difference I noticed was that there weren't as many privately owned ocean going yachts and private planes. Screw the people who ride the labors of others to become filthy rich...either that or use personal advantage in the stock market. 'Course there's always a chance they inherited it. In the late 1940's a corporate executive earned 12-15 times what a carpenter or plumber made. By 1970 that had changed to about 100 times as much. In 2012 a typical CEO made 550 times what an average worker made in this country. Just how much do you goddamned greedy assholes want? What will it take to satisfy you?
I worked my ass off to make what I make and wanting to keep it is not greedy
Greedy is other people saying I don't have a right to keep my own fucking money
It's not the taxation that's unfair, it's the relative incomes.
I liked it the way it was before Ronald Reagan slashed rates for the rich and quadrupled the national debt. they're gonna spend by god they should tax to cover it:
..............................................Total U S Debt................................................
Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt
US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?
09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
Look Closely At The Upper 1% Line at the End of Clinton's Two Terms....Then Bush Cut Taxes For His Rich Oil Buds Not Once But Twice....2001 and 2003
Notice That The Lower Half Of All Earners Have Lost Purchasing Power Since 1979!
So you really want to go back to pre-Reagan tax rates?
You do realize that the lowest bracket was 14% not 10 and that if you were singlr making 45K a year you would be in the 55% bracket
Be careful what you wish for
I'm 81 years old. Back in the day anyone who made more than $300,000 a year paid 91% of the excess in taxes. The only difference I noticed was that there weren't as many privately owned ocean going yachts and private planes. Screw the people who ride the labors of others to become filthy rich...either that or use personal advantage in the stock market. In the late 1940's a corporate executive earned 12-15 times what a carpenter or plumber made. By 1970 that had changed to about 100 times as much. In 2012 a typical CEO made 550 times what an average worker made in this country. Just how much do you goddamned greedy assholes want? What will it take to satisfy you?
You see Cambell, that is why your premise is faulty; because you are basing it on envy!
Notice..............what a CEO makes has absolutely nothing to do with governmental policy, it has to do with what a private corporation run by people who own stock like all of us who/whom are shareholders, decides the prospective CEO is worth. Now I agree their salaries are to damn high, but try and get a good one today without paying it and see what you get!
We see this scenario everywhere in business, so as an example, I will use this one-----> FORD MOTOR! Do we remember (I am sure you do if you are anywhere near as old as you claim) when the auto industry was in deep, dark, trouble? Bill Ford decided he would take the helm of the family business to right the ship, and 100s of thousands of his employees along with suppliers needed him to deliver. Hell, the United States government needed him to deliver, because losing one of its crown jewels of manufacturing in front of the onlookers of the world would be totally unacceptable; and if it collapsed, all those pensions were backed by the fed program. It was a very dicey time!
He couldn't do it. Let me repeat that, HE COULDN'T DO IT! As Ford was bleeding billions, the family went out and basically begged Alan Mulhaully to come from Boeing and help save them. The Ford family paid him HUGE, and along with that gave him large amounts of stock options to save their company, 100s of thousands of jobs in our economy across all spectrums, and you know what! Liberals in the union and on the street bitched, whined, and moaned it JUST WASN'T FAIR! I worked there, I know. To much money they said. We haven't gotten a decent raise in years, and look at the money he is making they proclaimed. We want to go on strike because of it, they threatened!
That man SAVED The Ford Motor Company, my job and 100s of thousands of others. He was the only auto company NOT to take a tarp bailout that your buddies in Washington were handing out, allowing them to keep artistic control of their vehicles. He didn't drop billions on the taxpayers of this nation, and because of it had to make the factories more efficient because our companies debt was still there, unlike GM and Chrysler who screwed their bondholders........but he did it, and they not only survived, but have done extremely well.
So what is a man like that worth Cambell and all you lefties? Tell all of us on this board! He saved thousands upon thousands of lefty union jobs, even as the people who worked in those jobs BITCHED because he was being paid a kings ransom. Were those stock options he received worth all those jobs and the saving of one of the crown jewels of our manufacturing sector?
If you said NO, then you are all a bunch of economic fools and illiterates. That man and his passion and ideas, saved the United States government 250 billion dollars in pension payouts if Ford would have gone under, lost tax revenue, economic expansion, and the benefits are still RISING from his stewardship, even though he has since retired.
Tell us all again how a good CEO is not worth their pay-)
That might make an interesting thread.
I liked it the way it was before Ronald Reagan slashed rates for the rich and quadrupled the national debt. they're gonna spend by god they should tax to cover it:
..............................................Total U S Debt................................................
Figures Easily Verified....Taken From the Bureau of the Debt
US: $18,775,084,981,440 - Debt as of December 2015?
09/30/2014 $17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2013 $16,738,183,526,697.32
09/30/2012 $16,066,241,407,385.89
09/30/2011 $14,790,340,328,557.15
09/30/2010 $13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 (Bill Clinton Raised Taxes On The Rich early 1993)
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)(Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
Look Closely At The Upper 1% Line at the End of Clinton's Two Terms....Then Bush Cut Taxes For His Rich Oil Buds Not Once But Twice....2001 and 2003
Notice That The Lower Half Of All Earners Have Lost Purchasing Power Since 1979!
So you really want to go back to pre-Reagan tax rates?
You do realize that the lowest bracket was 14% not 10 and that if you were singlr making 45K a year you would be in the 55% bracket
Be careful what you wish for
I'm 81 years old. Back in the day anyone who made more than $300,000 a year paid 91% of the excess in taxes. The only difference I noticed was that there weren't as many privately owned ocean going yachts and private planes. Screw the people who ride the labors of others to become filthy rich...either that or use personal advantage in the stock market. In the late 1940's a corporate executive earned 12-15 times what a carpenter or plumber made. By 1970 that had changed to about 100 times as much. In 2012 a typical CEO made 550 times what an average worker made in this country. Just how much do you goddamned greedy assholes want? What will it take to satisfy you?
You see Cambell, that is why your premise is faulty; because you are basing it on envy!
Notice..............what a CEO makes has absolutely nothing to do with governmental policy, it has to do with what a private corporation run by people who own stock like all of us who/whom are shareholders, decides the prospective CEO is worth. Now I agree their salaries are to damn high, but try and get a good one today without paying it and see what you get!
We see this scenario everywhere in business, so as an example, I will use this one-----> FORD MOTOR! Do we remember (I am sure you do if you are anywhere near as old as you claim) when the auto industry was in deep, dark, trouble? Bill Ford decided he would take the helm of the family business to right the ship, and 100s of thousands of his employees along with suppliers needed him to deliver. Hell, the United States government needed him to deliver, because losing one of its crown jewels of manufacturing in front of the onlookers of the world would be totally unacceptable; and if it collapsed, all those pensions were backed by the fed program. It was a very dicey time!
He couldn't do it. Let me repeat that, HE COULDN'T DO IT! As Ford was bleeding billions, the family went out and basically begged Alan Mulhaully to come from Boeing and help save them. The Ford family paid him HUGE, and along with that gave him large amounts of stock options to save their company, 100s of thousands of jobs in our economy across all spectrums, and you know what! Liberals in the union and on the street bitched, whined, and moaned it JUST WASN'T FAIR! I worked there, I know. To much money they said. We haven't gotten a decent raise in years, and look at the money he is making they proclaimed. We want to go on strike because of it, they threatened!
That man SAVED The Ford Motor Company, my job and 100s of thousands of others. He was the only auto company NOT to take a tarp bailout that your buddies in Washington were handing out, allowing them to keep artistic control of their vehicles. He didn't drop billions on the taxpayers of this nation, and because of it had to make the factories more efficient because our companies debt was still there, unlike GM and Chrysler who screwed their bondholders........but he did it, and they not only survived, but have done extremely well.
So what is a man like that worth Cambell and all you lefties? Tell all of us on this board! He saved thousands upon thousands of lefty union jobs, even as the people who worked in those jobs BITCHED because he was being paid a kings ransom. Were those stock options he received worth all those jobs and the saving of one of the crown jewels of our manufacturing sector?
If you said NO, then you are all a bunch of economic fools and illiterates. That man and his passion and ideas, saved the United States government 250 billion dollars in pension payouts if Ford would have gone under, lost tax revenue, economic expansion, and the benefits are still RISING from his stewardship, even though he has since retired.
Tell us all again how a good CEO is not worth their pay-)
Just curious....back in the 40's and 50's why did things work better for a family who only had one person working compared to today when most families have two working and sometimes one of them holds down two jobs?
Only if you can't dodge your taxes with the phony funds and foundations the WEALTHY use to avoid income taxes.
