The Left protests the arrests of prostitution rings in Queens.

[TruthNotBS]

Wrong. If I have to pay taxes on my earnings; they should too.

Of course, they should, but if they don't, they're still contributing. Your claim that they're not contributing anything is BS. If sex-work was regulated by the government, they would need to pay taxes like everyone else. Brothels would have to pay taxes and fees for permits. etc.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You had me at the first paragraph. You lost me at the second one.
If the govt can do it, why havent they done it? Why have they been trying for decades?
Govt is a failure and fucks up everything it touches.
Change my mind.

That's what the ruling class, your masters, want you to believe. It's often the case that they're the incompetent ones, living off of government checks:

Rank	Parent	Subsidy Value	Number of Awards
1	Boeing	$15,499,739,531	963
2	Intel	$8,423,581,056	139
3	Ford Motor	$7,746,892,959	704
4	General Motors	$7,533,646,692	793
5	Micron Technology	$6,790,131,915	21
6	Amazon.com	$5,887,660,428	480
7	Alcoa	$5,727,691,764	134
8	Cheniere Energy	$5,617,152,523	43
9	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,820,780,112	75
10	Venture Global LNG	$4,338,702,441	8
11	Texas Instruments	$4,286,716,512	75
12	Volkswagen	$4,103,804,970	225
13	Sempra Energy	$3,828,022,782	51
14	NRG Energy	$3,415,751,518	266
15	NextEra Energy	$3,392,737,237	119
16	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,829,855,494	116
18	Stellantis	$2,795,436,436	213
19	Walt Disney	$2,626,608,041	272
20	Nucor	$2,575,858,691	202
21	Iberdrola	$2,380,558,984	111
22	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$2,366,022,712	8
23	Hyundai Motor	$2,349,743,470	18
24	Oracle	$2,272,418,288	96
25	Shell PLC	$2,214,461,311	133
26	Alphabet Inc.	$2,140,082,221	134
27	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
28	Nike	$2,104,917,829	153
29	Meta Platforms Inc.	$2,103,574,428	83
30	Toyota	$2,071,134,513	244
31	Paramount Global	$1,986,772,523	348
32	Brookfield Corporation	$1,984,319,869	293
33	Comcast	$1,982,844,868	409
34	OGE Energy	$1,971,748,595	19
35	Exxon Mobil	$1,917,119,478	241
36	Apple Inc.	$1,912,457,519	70
37	Samsung Electronics	$1,891,262,898	44
38	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	98
39	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,834,939,931	1,221
40	Summit Power	$1,783,593,414	6
41	JPMorgan Chase	$1,740,972,699	1,151
42	Energy Transfer	$1,736,836,843	175
43	Southern Company	$1,735,931,348	45
44	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,705,295,415	129
45	General Electric	$1,650,460,706	961
46	Duke Energy	$1,635,172,669	95
47	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,623,857,336	33
48	Eli Lilly	$1,587,988,100	82
49	Wolfspeed Inc.	$1,564,076,731	66
50	General Atomics	$1,556,475,083	113
51	IBM Corp.	$1,498,690,934	370
52	Lockheed Martin	$1,462,674,082	327
53	SCS Energy	$1,419,011,796	5
54	Corning Inc.	$1,391,611,133	403
55	Panasonic	$1,384,147,584	61
56	Microsoft	$1,368,493,159	115
57	Sagamore Development	$1,320,000,000	2
58	Northrop Grumman	$1,284,299,594	288
59	Vingroup	$1,254,021,021	2
60	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
61	RTX Corporation	$1,216,214,555	805
62	CF Industries	$1,189,688,351	150
63	Valero Energy	$1,058,366,895	209
64	Dow Inc.	$1,049,400,498	642
65	AES Corp.	$1,039,510,135	136
66	Air Products & Chemicals	$1,026,557,482	89
67	SkyWest	$1,010,125,798	339
68	Exelon	$986,892,877	98
69	Pyramid Companies	$973,565,278	93
70	SK Holdings	$960,550,283	8
71	Centene	$916,959,104	67
72	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
73	Apollo Global Management	$899,742,274	614
74	Delta Air Lines	$871,485,833	13
75	Jefferies Financial Group	$871,137,335	16
76	SK Hynix	$866,700,000	2
77	Honda	$854,285,026	98
78	Bayer	$852,475,226	217
79	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$828,683,936	106
80	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	89
81	SunEdison	$821,563,157	124
82	Goldman Sachs	$800,873,386	253
83	Bank of America	$798,465,317	957
84	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$787,468,003	220
85	E.ON	$786,865,473	40
86	EDF-Electricite de France	$781,143,574	36
87	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
88	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
89	Related Companies	$714,675,504	8
90	Koch Industries	$698,421,970	518
91	Caithness Energy	$672,688,888	30
92	Dell Technologies	$658,417,951	185
93	Wells Fargo	$657,333,216	543
94	FedEx	$649,583,890	637
95	Entergy	$638,533,387	235
96	OCI N.V.	$627,879,406	5
97	Chevron Phillips Chemical	$619,839,444	20
98	Bedrock Detroit	$618,000,000	1
99	Dominion Energy	$615,465,134	80

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Uncle Sam could practically eliminate homelessness overnight. Hunger, people not having access to healthcare, an education..etc. If the US government wasn't under the heel of wealthy plutocrats, it could completely transform society for the better, eliminating many social ills. Since our capitalist masters don't want the government to do anything other than subsidize their businesses, privatize and commodify every single resource, while stripping the working class of their rights and powers. You've fallen right into their trap, trying to argue their case, which isn't a really good one when you examine it.

 

[TNHarley]

That's what the ruling class, your masters, want you to believe. It's often the case that they're the incompetent ones, living off of government checks:

Rank	Parent	Subsidy Value	Number of Awards
1	Boeing	$15,499,739,531	963
2	Intel	$8,423,581,056	139
3	Ford Motor	$7,746,892,959	704
4	General Motors	$7,533,646,692	793
5	Micron Technology	$6,790,131,915	21
6	Amazon.com	$5,887,660,428	480
7	Alcoa	$5,727,691,764	134
8	Cheniere Energy	$5,617,152,523	43
9	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,820,780,112	75
10	Venture Global LNG	$4,338,702,441	8
11	Texas Instruments	$4,286,716,512	75
12	Volkswagen	$4,103,804,970	225
13	Sempra Energy	$3,828,022,782	51
14	NRG Energy	$3,415,751,518	266
15	NextEra Energy	$3,392,737,237	119
16	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,829,855,494	116
18	Stellantis	$2,795,436,436	213
19	Walt Disney	$2,626,608,041	272
20	Nucor	$2,575,858,691	202
21	Iberdrola	$2,380,558,984	111
22	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$2,366,022,712	8
23	Hyundai Motor	$2,349,743,470	18
24	Oracle	$2,272,418,288	96
25	Shell PLC	$2,214,461,311	133
26	Alphabet Inc.	$2,140,082,221	134
27	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
28	Nike	$2,104,917,829	153
29	Meta Platforms Inc.	$2,103,574,428	83
30	Toyota	$2,071,134,513	244
31	Paramount Global	$1,986,772,523	348
32	Brookfield Corporation	$1,984,319,869	293
33	Comcast	$1,982,844,868	409
34	OGE Energy	$1,971,748,595	19
35	Exxon Mobil	$1,917,119,478	241
36	Apple Inc.	$1,912,457,519	70
37	Samsung Electronics	$1,891,262,898	44
38	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	98
39	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,834,939,931	1,221
40	Summit Power	$1,783,593,414	6
41	JPMorgan Chase	$1,740,972,699	1,151
42	Energy Transfer	$1,736,836,843	175
43	Southern Company	$1,735,931,348	45
44	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,705,295,415	129
45	General Electric	$1,650,460,706	961
46	Duke Energy	$1,635,172,669	95
47	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,623,857,336	33
48	Eli Lilly	$1,587,988,100	82
49	Wolfspeed Inc.	$1,564,076,731	66
50	General Atomics	$1,556,475,083	113
51	IBM Corp.	$1,498,690,934	370
52	Lockheed Martin	$1,462,674,082	327
53	SCS Energy	$1,419,011,796	5
54	Corning Inc.	$1,391,611,133	403
55	Panasonic	$1,384,147,584	61
56	Microsoft	$1,368,493,159	115
57	Sagamore Development	$1,320,000,000	2
58	Northrop Grumman	$1,284,299,594	288
59	Vingroup	$1,254,021,021	2
60	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
61	RTX Corporation	$1,216,214,555	805
62	CF Industries	$1,189,688,351	150
63	Valero Energy	$1,058,366,895	209
64	Dow Inc.	$1,049,400,498	642
65	AES Corp.	$1,039,510,135	136
66	Air Products & Chemicals	$1,026,557,482	89
67	SkyWest	$1,010,125,798	339
68	Exelon	$986,892,877	98
69	Pyramid Companies	$973,565,278	93
70	SK Holdings	$960,550,283	8
71	Centene	$916,959,104	67
72	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
73	Apollo Global Management	$899,742,274	614
74	Delta Air Lines	$871,485,833	13
75	Jefferies Financial Group	$871,137,335	16
76	SK Hynix	$866,700,000	2
77	Honda	$854,285,026	98
78	Bayer	$852,475,226	217
79	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$828,683,936	106
80	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	89
81	SunEdison	$821,563,157	124
82	Goldman Sachs	$800,873,386	253
83	Bank of America	$798,465,317	957
84	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$787,468,003	220
85	E.ON	$786,865,473	40
86	EDF-Electricite de France	$781,143,574	36
87	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
88	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
89	Related Companies	$714,675,504	8
90	Koch Industries	$698,421,970	518
91	Caithness Energy	$672,688,888	30
92	Dell Technologies	$658,417,951	185
93	Wells Fargo	$657,333,216	543
94	FedEx	$649,583,890	637
95	Entergy	$638,533,387	235
96	OCI N.V.	$627,879,406	5
97	Chevron Phillips Chemical	$619,839,444	20
98	Bedrock Detroit	$618,000,000	1
99	Dominion Energy	$615,465,134	80

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Uncle Sam could practically eliminate homelessness overnight. Hunger, people not having access to healthcare, an education..etc. If the US government wasn't under the heel of wealthy plutocrats, it could completely transform society for the better, eliminating many social ills. Since our capitalist masters don't want the government to do anything other than subsidize its businesses, privatize and commodify every single resource, while stripping the working class of their rights and powers. You've fallen right into their trap, trying to argue their case, which isn't a really good one when you examine it.

I understand we subsidize business, and we shouldnt. I understand the ills that causes and how corporations run our govt. (also, you arent very capitalist when you rely on the government. There is another term for that )
That has zero to do with the govt fucking everything up.
Healthcare costs = Govts fault
Dwindling education = Govts fault
Destroying currency = Govts fault
60 year war on poverty = LOL

 

[rightwinger]

whatever. the "left" wants these people to pay taxes and obey city ordinances.

Victimless crime

 

[Mr Natural]

Prostitution is illegal for a good reason.

And what is that “good reason”?

 

[Vastator]

Of course, they should, but if they don't, they're still contributing. Your claim that they're not contributing anything is BS. If sex-work was regulated by the government, they would need to pay taxes like everyone else. Brothels would have to pay taxes and fees for permits. etc.

I didn't say anything. I said paying taxes on the tricks they turn. All the rest of your excuses apply equally to anyone. There's nothing special about it.

 

[Votto]

So you legitimize it.
Hooking is the oldest profession on Earth. It isnt going anywhere.

So, these people that have increased crime in their respective neighborhoods because of the sex workers should just learn to deal with it or move?

Understood.

I don't think those people understand though or agree. They just want their neighborhood back and legalizing it does not make the crime go away. Strip clubs, for example, are legal with the same criminal activity attached to it. People simply don't want them in their neighborhoods either.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I understand we subsidize business, and we shouldnt. I understand the ills that causes and how corporations run our govt. (also, you arent very capitalist when you rely on the government. There is another term for that )
That has zero to do with the govt fucking everything up.
Healthcare costs = Govts fault
Dwindling education = Govts fault
Destroying currency = Govts fault
60 year war on poverty = LOL

There's no war on poverty, that's fiction. None of what you said is the government's fault on the contrary, it's privatization or commodifying everything that leads to high prices. Without the government, there's gross inequality and injustice which leads to social instability and eventually violence. The pitchforks come out. Cronyism is endemic to capitalism, you can't avoid it. Capitalism always needs to get bailed out by public funds. The capitalists make their losses public and their profits, private.

Now within the next few years, there's going to be another bailout, to keep capitalism on life-support a few more decades, due to advanced automation and artificial intelligence. It's one government bailout after another, that's capitalism. To do otherwise leads to economic collapse at a national scale, hence why our government continues to bail out capitalists every few years, to keep the circus open and the clowns running.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I didn't say anything. I said paying taxes on the tricks they turn. All the rest of your excuses apply equally to anyone. There's nothing special about it.

I never said they shouldn't pay taxes, so what's the problem?

 

[Blaster]

Sex workers, street vendors protest police raids in Queens

Many rely on this work for survival.

ny1.com

Rights, not raids. That’s what sex workers and street vendors in Queens are demanding, following an increased crackdown on illegal brothels and unlicensed vendors along Roosevelt Avenue.

“Sex work is work. We are your neighbors. Our lives are not disposable materials for your political campaigns. Let’s work together to protect each other,” Fran Yu from the sex workers’ rights group Red Canary Song, said.

Activists gathered on the steps of Corona Plaza Tuesday to call for the removal of police officers and State Troopers from their neighborhoods. The recently ramped up campaign called “Operation Restore Roosevelt” aimed to address public safety.

I have to say, at least the DNC is consistent as they protest Israel defending itself from terrorists and object to illegal immigrants being referred to as illegal and women killing their unborn children is referred to as social justice.

They have all the answers, don't they?

The law be damned, because they are the law.

Naturally, this is AOC's district, not that that surprises anyone.

There is rampant prostitution on Twitter.

 

[TruthNotBS]

So, these people that have increased crime in their respective neighborhoods because of the sex workers should just learn to deal with it or move?

Understood.

I don't think those people understand though or agree. They just want their neighborhood back and legalizing it does not make the crime go away. Strip clubs, for example, are legal with the same criminal activity attached to it. People simply don't want them in their neighborhoods either.

If it was regulated, the brothers wouldn't be there. There can be a "red-light" district. Your claim that sex-work leads to violent crime is false. It's not necessarily the case, provided it's well-regulated.

 

[Votto]

If it was regulated, the brothers wouldn't be there. There can be a "red-light" district. Your claim that sex-work leads to violent crime is false. It's not necessarily the case, provided it's well-regulated.

Who gives a damn about regulation?

Again, a thousand shades of gray, no one cares.

 

[TNHarley]

There's no war on poverty, that's fiction. None of what you said is the government's fault on the contrary, it's privatization or commodifying everything that leads to high prices. Without the government, there's gross inequality and injustice which leads to social instability and eventually violence. The pitchforks come out. Cronyism is endemic to capitalism, you can't avoid it. Capitalism always needs to get bailed out by public funds. The capitalists make their losses public and their profits, private.

Now within the next few years, there's going to be another bailout, to keep capitalism on life-support a few more decades, due to advanced automation and artificial intelligence. It's one government bailout after another, that's capitalism. To do otherwise leads to economic collapse at a national scale, hence why our government continues to bail out capitalists every few years, to keep the circus open and the clowns running.

Oh, we havent dumped trillions into poverty?
Stats, not platitudes. Try it.
Capitalism isnt being bailed out by the government. Stopping raping the meaning of terms with your juvenile pinko shit.
You arent very good at this "change my mind" ordeal.

 

[TNHarley]

Cameras make everything ok! The crime doesnt exist with cameras!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Oh, we havent dumped trillions into poverty?
Stats, not platitudes. Try it.
Capitalism isnt being bailed out by the government. Stopping raping the meaning of terms with your juvenile pinko shit.
You arent very good at this "change my mind" ordeal.

Billions have been spent on keeping people in poverty.

Dependent on the government

 

[TNHarley]

Billions have been spent on keeping people in poverty.

Dependent on the government

The government caused the biggest transfer of wealth(from the bottom to the top) in history in 2020. But blah blah blah lick the boots blah blah blah

 

[TruthNotBS]

Oh, we havent dumped trillions into poverty?
Stats, not platitudes. Try it.
Capitalism isnt being bailed out by the government. Stopping raping the meaning of terms with your juvenile pinko shit.
You arent very good at this "change my mind" ordeal.

I have no intentions of changing the mind of a brainwashed old fart. The Cold War has pretty much set your brain on stupid when it comes to capitalism vs socialism. The government under capitalist control, doesn't develop the infrastructure to effectively eliminate poverty. If you're going to do something half-ass., don't do it. Do what's required, or don't do it at all.

Capitalism constantly gets bailed out. Without government assistance, we wouldn't be eating now. There would be a food shortage in peace-time here in the US if American farmers weren't subsidized by Uncle Sam. Capitalism as a "free market", has never existed, it's a unicorn. It always needs the government or socialism to function. Now thanks to advanced automation and artificial intelligence, we're going to be forced by necessity to adopt a marketless system of production. Another word for that is, socialism. It's coming, whether you like it or not. I have no illusions or intentions of convincing people like yourself. I don't write this for you, but for others.

 

[TruthNotBS]

The government caused the biggest transfer of wealth(from the bottom to the top) in history in 2020. But blah blah blah lick the boots blah blah blah

You're confusing the 1980s, with 2020. In 2020 we had a pandemic, and when there's a crisis of that nature, capitalists are going to cash in on distressed properties and many other business opportunities that arise as a result of the crisis. You're the one licking capitalist boots.

 

[Vastator]

Who gives a damn about regulation?

Again, a thousand shades of gray, no one cares.

Apparently a lot of folks care. It is illegal after all.

 

[TNHarley]

I have no intentions of changing the mind of a brainwashed old fart. The Cold War has pretty much set your brain on stupid when it comes to capitalism vs socialism. The government under capitalist control, doesn't develop the infrastructure to effectively eliminate poverty. If you're going to do something half-ass., don't do it. Do what's required, or don't do it at all.

Capitalism constantly gets bailed out. Without government assistance, we wouldn't be eating now. There would be a food shortage in peace-time here in the US if American farmers weren't subsidized by Uncle Sam. Capitalism as a "free market", has never existed, it's a unicorn. It always needs the government or socialism to function. Now thanks to advanced automation and artificial intelligence, we're going to be forced by necessity to adopt a marketless system of production. Another word for that is, socialism. It's coming, whether you like it or not. I have no illusions or intentions of convincing people like yourself. I don't write this for you, but for others.

Im under 40, im just not a complete dumbass, as I can read history and statistics.
You have no idea what capitalism is. Grow up.

I don't write this for you, but for others.