The Left made a tragedy about race

[X.Onasis]

Without taking a side..some facts to consider:
Camp Mystic is a 100 year old Texas Tradition---it is undeniably an upper-crust camp that has shaped Texas women for generations.
Families put their girls on the Camp Mystic waiting list at birth, in many cases.

Here's a look at women—some well-known, others lesser-known—who attended or were connected to Camp Mystic across its history:

Historic & Political Connections​

• Laura Bush – Before becoming First Lady, she was a drama counselor at Camp Mystic during her time at SMU Wikipedia+14NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth+14New York Post+14.
• Jenna Bush Hager – Daughter of George W. Bush, she has spoken publicly about the deep impact and personal connection her family has had with the camp MySA+4People.com+4NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth+4.
• Lynda Bird and Luci Johnson – Daughters of President Lyndon B. Johnson; they attended as campers, and later their daughters and granddaughters continued the tradition Wikipedia+2The Daily Beast+2KPRC+2.
• Rosebud Baker – Comedian and writer (granddaughter of James Baker, Reagan-era Secretary of State); she’s a second-generation camper AP News+7The Daily Beast+7inkl+7.

Governors’ Daughters​

• Daughters of Texas Governors Price Daniel, Dan Moody, and John Connally attended Camp Mystic over several decades Public Radio+13The Daily Beast+13New York Post+13.

Notable Alumnae in Arts & Society​

• Mary Martin – Renowned Broadway actress; she was among the earliest celebrity campers SGT Report.
• Abigail Kapiolani Kawānanakoa & Lydia Liliuokalani Kawānanakoa – Hawaiian princesses who attended Mary Jobe Akeley’s original Camp Mystic in Connecticut San Antonio Express-News+14Wikipedia+14AP News+14.

Founding & Women’s Leadership​

• Mary Jobe Akeley – An explorer, author, and conservationist who founded the original Camp Mystic near Mystic, Connecticut, in 1916; she championed outdoor education for girls Wikipedia.

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My point is that the dividing line here is money, and Texas connections, in many cases.
This was not your usual YMCA or church camp.

Yes--any economic metric excludes people of color historically--like it or not.

It is clear that the camp was/is ultra-exclusive--and whether or not the intention was to make it racially homogeneous...the effect of their policies was to make it so.

Good information. I suspect Sade Perkins is aware of this, and the bigots attacking her here did not.

However, I have to take issue with your statement that, "...any economic metric excludes people of color historically--like it or not."
Perhaps you misstated what you meant.

Also, there's nothing implied in my suggestion that, likely, you didn't pay for your grandkids to be the only white girls in a camp with hundreds of Black kids.
That's common and understandable, but hardly driven by racism.

 

[X.Onasis]

Those who call others racists are the real racists.

Wise words from the mouths of fools do oft themselves belie. So keep trying, you might get lucky one day.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Go play with dynamite jackass, she called them little ***** it was Gods will. You are one stupid negro

It's annoying and disturbing to read white people defending a black racist, so they can imagine they are a hero to the black race that they hold in such contempt that they think black people need the assistance of a white man because they are too weak to defend themselves.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Wise words from the mouths of fools do oft themselves belie. So keep trying, you might get lucky one day.

See my above post so I don't have to repost it to your sorry ass.

 

[OldFlame]

No, but you'd have to be one to accurately say what they think.

Yet the black racist that is the subject of this thread did exactly that about white people.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

do you see anyone other than white on this site

Camp Mystic for Girls

www.campmystic.com

How many Black Conservative Christians live in the area ? Do you have those statistics ?

You loons love to brag about how much of the Black community the left controls. Using big percentage numbers of support from blacks every time whatever democratic party politician is running for office.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Good information. I suspect Sade Perkins is aware of this, and the bigots attacking her here did not.

However, I have to take issue with your statement that, "...any economic metric excludes people of color historically--like it or not."
Perhaps you misstated what you meant.

Also, there's nothing implied in my suggestion that, likely, you didn't pay for your grandkids to be the only white girls in a camp with hundreds of Black kids.
That's common and understandable, but hardly driven by racism.

No..I said what I meant--by the numbers almost all people of color are priced out of the camp...even if they wanted to go....and it no doubt was worse, 50-60 years ago--and a total non-starter when the camp was founded.
Yes, poor white kids are priced out as well--which is why I see economic elitism driving admissions--with an undeniably racial bias in effect--whether or not that was the intent.

Camp Mystic in Kerr County, Texas—a Christian girls’ summer camp for campers who’ve completed 2nd grade—charges tuition based on session length:

• Two‑week session: typically $3,000–$4,000 per camper San Antonio Express-News+15San Antonio Express-News+15Houston Chronicle+15
• Four‑week session: typically $7,000–$8,000 per camper

An analysis of camp fees suggests a more specific range:

• Approximately $4,300–$4,500 for a standard two‑week term ThePricer

Additional costs to keep in mind:

• Deposit: $350–$400 due to reserve a spot, fully refundable before March 1 campmystic.org+8ThePricer+8storage.googleapis.com+8
• Elective upgrades (e.g. private lessons), lost-item fees, store purchases, credit‑card fees—can add hundreds more

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

How many Black Conservative Christians live in the area ? Do you have those statistics ?

You loons love to brag about how much of the Black community the left controls. Using big percentage numbers of support from blacks every time whatever democratic party politician is running for office.

Almost all the campers live out of the area.
They draw from all of Texas--are you alleging that there are no Black Conservative Christians with 8k to fork out for camp?

Guess what/ I agree with you!

 

[X.Onasis]

It's annoying and disturbing to read white people defending a black racist, so they can imagine they are a hero to the black race that they hold in such contempt that they think black people need the assistance of a white man because they are too weak to defend themselves.

I can see you're annoyed and disturbed, but it's your own problem.

Yet the black racist that is the subject of this thread did exactly that about white people.

Sounds like you're admitting the White Christian conservatives are indeed racist, eh?

 

[OldFlame]

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Sounds like you're admitting the White Christian conservatives are indeed racist, eh?

Explain that 'logic'.

 

[X.Onasis]

No..I said what I meant--by the numbers almost all people of color are priced out of the camp...even if they wanted to go....and it no doubt was worse, 50-60 years ago--and a total non-starter when the camp was founded.
Yes, poor white kids are priced out as well--which is why I see economic elitism driving admissions--with an undeniably racial bias in effect--whether or not that was the intent.

Camp Mystic in Kerr County, Texas—a Christian girls’ summer camp for campers who’ve completed 2nd grade—charges tuition based on session length:

• Two‑week session: typically $3,000–$4,000 per camper San Antonio Express-News+15San Antonio Express-News+15Houston Chronicle+15
• Four‑week session: typically $7,000–$8,000 per camper

An analysis of camp fees suggests a more specific range:

• Approximately $4,300–$4,500 for a standard two‑week term ThePricer

Additional costs to keep in mind:

• Deposit: $350–$400 due to reserve a spot, fully refundable before March 1 campmystic.org+8ThePricer+8storage.googleapis.com+8
• Elective upgrades (e.g. private lessons), lost-item fees, store purchases, credit‑card fees—can add hundreds more

"...any economic metric excludes people of color historically--like it or not."

I'm to assume you're speaking exclusively about the camp?

 

[X.Onasis]

Explain that 'logic'.

Get your finger out of your ass and figure it out.

 

[OldFlame]

Get your finger out of your ass and figure it out.

That's what I thought, thanks.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

I can see you're annoyed and disturbed, but it's your own problem.



Sounds like you're admitting the White Christian conservatives are indeed racist, eh?

There you are again with the finger pointing, and your thumb points right back at you.

 

[IM2]

More white racist whining.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

"...any economic metric excludes people of color historically--like it or not."

I'm to assume you're speaking exclusively about the camp?

Nope..assuming you want to go there.

Visualizing the Racial Income Gap​

Median Household Income Over Time (Inflation-Adjusted)​

Year	White	Black	Ratio (Black/White)
1967	$44,700	$24,700	~55 %
1970	$54,100	$30,400	~56 %
1990	~$70k*	~$38k*	~54 %*
2011	$67,175	$39,760	~59 %
2023	$84,630	$56,490	~67 %

Key Drivers & Historical Insights​

• 1967 minimum wage expansion: Increased coverage in service sectors, largely benefiting Black workers, halving the earnings gap during the late 1960s and early 1970s Reddit.
• Structural barriers: Persistent occupational segregation, education and hiring biases, and historical wealth disadvantages due to redlining and Jim Crow policies time.com+1time.com+1.
• Wealth vs. income gap: While income gaps have narrowed somewhat, the white-to-Black wealth ratio remains around 6:1, with stagnant convergence since 1950 Reddit+2CEPR+2Reddit+2.

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Summary & Outlook​

• Longest-term trend: Black incomes have consistently risen since the 1920s, particularly post-1960s, reducing the income ratio from ~50% to ~65–70% today.
• Persistent gap: Despite progress, a significant racial income gap remains—roughly 30–40%—even as both groups have seen real earnings growth.

 

[X.Onasis]

That's what I thought, thanks.

Assignment was too tough, eh?

Perhaps you'd like to explain how Ms Perkins' implied superiority over the White, Christian conservatives while disparaging the media's lack of similar coverage over the deliberate detention and torture of Hispanics is racist.
Because I still don't see how pointing out that racism exists is, in fact, racist.
TIA

 

[X.Onasis]

Nope..assuming you want to go there.

Visualizing the Racial Income Gap​

Median Household Income Over Time (Inflation-Adjusted)​

Year	White	Black	Ratio (Black/White)
1967	$44,700	$24,700	~55 %
1970	$54,100	$30,400	~56 %
1990	~$70k*	~$38k*	~54 %*
2011	$67,175	$39,760	~59 %
2023	$84,630	$56,490	~67 %

Key Drivers & Historical Insights​

• 1967 minimum wage expansion: Increased coverage in service sectors, largely benefiting Black workers, halving the earnings gap during the late 1960s and early 1970s Reddit.
• Structural barriers: Persistent occupational segregation, education and hiring biases, and historical wealth disadvantages due to redlining and Jim Crow policies time.com+1time.com+1.
• Wealth vs. income gap: While income gaps have narrowed somewhat, the white-to-Black wealth ratio remains around 6:1, with stagnant convergence since 1950 Reddit+2CEPR+2Reddit+2.

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Summary & Outlook​

• Longest-term trend: Black incomes have consistently risen since the 1920s, particularly post-1960s, reducing the income ratio from ~50% to ~65–70% today.
• Persistent gap: Despite progress, a significant racial income gap remains—roughly 30–40%—even as both groups have seen real earnings growth.

You just posted an economic metric that INCLUDES Blacks.
This to prove "...any economic metric excludes people of color historically--like it or not." ??
Seriously?

 

[X.Onasis]

There you are again with the finger pointing, and your thumb points right back at you.

Great misuse of a well-known metaphor. You're the smartest crayon in the toolbox, aren't you?

 

[OldFlame]

Sounds like you're admitting the White Christian conservatives are indeed racist, eh?

Maybe you need to start over?

Explain the 'logic' behind your comment. Thanks