The left has embraced fascism in its purest form

[mamooth]

And I noticed you didn't even attempt to deny that the Democrat Party is deeply antisemitic.

It's so absurd, watching the Nazi asslickers scream that everyone else is an antisemite.

All the guys flying swastikas are on your side. You and your entire party welcome them with open arms. The Q-cult is openly antisemitic, and that's a third of the GOP.

I'm just making it clear where we all stand. Liberals oppose antisemites, conservatives kiss up to antisemites.

Your party fights 24x7 for Palestine - a terrorist "state" - while simultaneously denouncing Israel around the clock.

That's the "any criticism of Israel is antisemitism" BigLie. Goebbels would be proud of you for that one.

Now run along. You're needed. Those Nazi asses won't lick themselves.

 

[P@triot]

It's so absurd, watching the Nazi asslickers scream that everyone else is an antisemite.

Yes, but that’s just what you Dumbocrats do. You accuse the other side of the crimes you are guilty of committing.

All the guys flying swastikas are on your side. You and your entire party welcome them with open arms.

All of the terrorist muslim Palestinian-lovers are on your side, ass-clown.

The Q-cult is openly antisemitic, and that's a third of the GOP.

But as we already established, 100% of the Dumbocrat Party is antisemitic.

I'm just making it clear where we all stand.

Which is that you’re committed to disinformation and you throw a tantrum any time you have to see actual facts.

Liberals oppose antisemites

Liberals oppose Israel and deeply support the terrorist Palestinians. That is a fact that cannot be denied.

 

[P@triot]

On Wednesday, a bipartisan majority of Senators voted 51-49 against the left’s extreme “Abortion for All Act.”

This vote marks the second time this legislation has failed in the Senate. Back in February, the same bipartisan majority of Senators voted against the bill, which Heritage Action key voted as part of our legislative scorecard.

Here’s how extreme their “Abortion for All Act” is:

• Allows for abortion in ALL NINE months of pregnancy (including gruesome late-term abortions)
• Overturns ALL state pro-life protections
• Removes ALL religious exemptions for healthcare workers and OB-GYNs who refuse to perform abortions
• Forces ALL taxpayers to fund abortions
• ALL babies can be targeted for abortion based on their race, gender, or genetics

 

[P@triot]

Fascists cannot (and will not) tolerate any institution not echoing/parroting the official position of the state.

“The Washington Post contacted 20 major video game companies about whether they planned to make a statement regarding Roe’s potential repeal or provide employees with monetary aid in places where abortions would no longer be available,” the article states. “Only Microsoft and Activision Blizzard responded with statements.”

What possible purpose could this “news” article serve other than as an attempt to browbeat these companies into submission?

Washington Post 'News' Story Prods Video Game Makers to Back Abortion

Why is The Washington Post pushing for video game makers to support abortion? Because, to the left, everything is political.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[P@triot]

The repulsive hypocrisy here mixed with the disinformation, is almost unimaginable. Very Nazi Germany like.

1. When we were actually at war under George W. Bush (after being attacked on 9/11), Democrats spent 6 of the 8 years threatening his life, calling him a war criminal, and much worse. They had 0 support for GWB during that time
2. We're not at war. Biden refused to defend Ukraine even when it was the right thing to do.

'Excuse me, what?': Top Democrat bemoans GOP's criticism of Biden because US is 'in a time of war' | Blaze Media

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) sparked outrage Friday after claiming the United States is "in a time of war" while rebuking Republicans for criticizing President Joe Biden. What did Hoyer say? During a diatribe in which Hoyer chided Republicans for criticizing Biden's hostility...

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[P@triot]

It’s because the left has embraced fascism in its purest form…

Leftists Threaten, Not Persuade

“We can't be an institution that can be bullied into giving you just the outcomes you want,” Justice Clarence Thomas says.

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[P@triot]

Manufacture a “crisis”. Use it to assume powers that don’t exist. We’re living Atlas Shrugged.

Price Controls on Fuel Would Be Disastrous for Americans

Amid soaring fuel prices, liberals seek to shift blame from Bidenflation and onto producers with a bill they say is aimed at price gouging.

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[P@triot]

It’s sad that we need laws like this. But that’s the result of the Democrats embracing fascism in its purest form.

New Florida Law to Prohibit Protests at Private Residences

Calling residential protests “inappropriate,” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signs legislation to protect the privacy of Floridians.

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[P@triot]

The extremist Democrats now consider questions about basic facts to be “inflammatory language”. But that’s what happens when one embraces extremism. It causes one to run from basic/simple facts.

Lawmaker confronts abortion doctor over horrific reality of abortion procedures. Her reaction says it all.

An Alabama physician who performs abortions accused Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) of using "inflammatory language" Wednesday after he described the brutal reality of abortion procedures.What happened?During a tense House Judiciary Committee hearing, Roy asked Dr. Yashica Robinson — who operates one of...

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[Pellinore]

Still haven't learned what fascism actually is, I see. At least you're consistent.

 

[P@triot]

Still haven't learned what fascism actually is, I see. At least you're consistent.

I’ve explained it to you many times. Unfortunately, you’re just not intelligent enough to understand this content.

 

[P@triot]

Still haven't learned what fascism actually is, I see. At least you're consistent.

Everyone on the planet agrees that libertarians are to the right of the GOP because they believe in smaller government with less power (even your low IQ ass acknowledges that!).

Therefore, it becomes absolutely impossible for totalitarianism to be to the right of libertarianism. All it takes is an ounce of common sense here, sport.

 

[Pellinore]

I’ve explained it to you many times. Unfortunately, you’re just not intelligent enough to understand this content.

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Okay. Where did you learn that?

I'll follow up here because I'm not on as often as many. The reason I ask is because last time you "explained" it to me, you were only able to mention one ultimate source of this idea: Freidrich Hayek. Hayek, as you probably already know, came into prominence around World War II in the classical-liberalist Austrian School, and so his main driving force was to oppose excessive government control, especially the socialists and Communists. Knowing that, it becomes very understandable that he would back a viewpoint that equates them with the hated Nazis.

Any student of any subject has to take a writer's perspective and experiences into account when reading his philosophy on a subject, or else the student will never get a full understanding of, in this case, political science and fascism. It's also important to read more than one author, if you haven't done so.

So Hayek was a classical liberal, which today is pretty close to what we call libertarianism, and so he preached about dividing society along an axis based on liberty vs. authoritarianism. If you are also a libertarian, it makes sense that this scheme would appeal to you as well. I found this one which is similar to yours:

It makes sense, and it's a legitimate way of classifying that aspect of politics, but here's the thing: It's not the spectrum political scientists use when they're talking about the left or right wings. It's a different measuring device.

The reason they're called the left and right wings goes back to the French Revolutionary 'Parliament,' where all of the representatives who favored radical change and equality among classes sat on the literal left wing of the chamber, and those who favored the established aristocracy and a society based on class divides sat on the right. These basic definitions have not changed.

The left wing is based around the promise of equality for all people, in an increasingly classless society in which everyone gets an equal share of society's benefits, without asking if they deserve it. The right wing wants a hierarchy in society; conservatives favor those who work hard in the capitalist ideal, but out at the fringes are the fascists, whose hierarchy is instead based on who is in the party and who is an outsider. The political spectrum that measures the left and right looks like this:

The center is much the same, but the fringes have swapped, because the left-ring spectrum is about comparing the structure of society, not he amount of control the government exerts. That's simply a different measure.

Last thing: If you notice, libertarianism isn't there, and Anarchism and Communism are lumped together, even though they're not really compatible. That's because this is just a one-dimensional graph. For more depth, imagine this was an iron bar, and you could grab it by the Communism and Fascism. Then, like a circus strongman, bend it into a horseshoe shape until they almost touch. That horseshoe sits very nicely in the middle and bottom of a two-dimensional graph that looks like this:

Healthy democracy in the center. Liberals left, conservatives right, and Communism and Fascists (with Nazis) all down at the authoritarian bottom. That is the thing they *do* have in common: they're both heavily, brutally autocratic. What I've noticed about how the term 'fascist' is often used around here, including in your posts, is that you use it to mean everything on the south side of this diamond, and try to call that all the accursed 'left wing'.

They aren't, though. Everyone on the right side of this diamond believes in a class-ordered society in whatever way, and fascists are on the right, with the conservatives. Fascists recruit almost exclusively from conservatives, appealing to their patriotism, tradition, and disgust for whatever dumb shit the liberals just did. That's where Mussolini recruited, that's where Hitler recruited, that's where Orban is recruiting. If any country is to resist a fascist threat, it is the conservatives who must do it.

And, of course, there's the libertarians and anarchists up top with ultimate freedom. Your spectrum is pretty close to this turned sideways, and that's a perfectly legitimate way to examine the government—it's just not the political spectrum, no matter how much Hayek wanted to promote that it was. I don't know if you'll believe me—after all, to you I'm just some dude on the Internet—but I promise you, this is what the political science world means when they talk of the left and right wings, and where fascism sits in them.

 

[P@triot]

They aren't, though. Everyone on the right side of this diamond believes in a class-ordered society in whatever way, and fascists are on the right, with the conservatives. Fascists recruit almost exclusively from conservatives, appealing to their patriotism, tradition, and disgust for whatever dumb shit the liberals just did. That's where Mussolini recruited, that's where Hitler recruited, that's where Orban is recruiting. If any country is to resist a fascist threat, it is the conservatives who must do it.

Exceptional explanation. Very well done. But that portion right there simply isn’t accurate.

NAZI is short for National Socialist. Socialism is left-wing. That’s just a simple fact. And Hitler absolutely was a socialist. Through-and-through. One of his famous quotes:

 

[P@triot]

I don't know if you'll believe me—after all, to you I'm just some dude on the Internet—but I promise you, this is what the political science world means when they talk of the left and right wings, and where fascism sits in them.

And I promise you, that’s only because of the propaganda campaign of the Democrats helped convince so many ignorant people of something that simply isn’t true.

I don’t do propaganda. I defeat it with facts. And the fact is, fascism is exclusively left-wing. It’s a totalitarian ideology. You cannot have small, limited government totalitarianism.

 

[P@triot]

That's because this is just a one-dimensional graph. For more depth, imagine this was an iron bar, and you could grab it by the Communism and Fascism. Then, like a circus strongman, bend it into a horseshoe shape until they almost touch. That horseshoe sits very nicely in the middle and bottom of a two-dimensional graph that looks like this:

And therein lies the problem. This is the exact Democrat propaganda I’m talking about. A spectrum is linear. But since a linear spectrum very easily defeats the propaganda of the left, their latest tactic is to claim that the political spectrum is “almost” a “circle” where the extreme ends almost touch because they are so “similar”.

Of course, everyone with logic and reason knows that right is opposite of left and thus the extreme ends are polar opposites. 0 similarity. Zero.

 

[Pellinore]

Exceptional explanation. Very well done. But that portion right there simply isn’t accurate.

NAZI is short for National Socialist. Socialism is left-wing. That’s just a simple fact. And Hitler absolutely was a socialist. Through-and-through. One of his famous quotes:

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Thank you! I appreciate that.

Yes, it stands for "National Socialist," a term they gave themselves, essentially for market branding. Hitler and Co. were populists, and very conscious of how important it was to appeal to the working class. Socialism was very popular with poor people, because it promised to make them equal to the rich, so the Nazis presented their ideas as a version of socialism, but with the benefits reserved just for them, the "Volksgemeinschaft," meaning the Aryan people. Viktor Orban is doing the same thing now in Hungary, calling his system "illiberal democracy" even though it is anything but democratic, because the term is popular.

Hitler was a politician, and politicians say things that aren't true in order to get support. This quote was part of his recruitment spiel aimed at the German middle class that were suffering from the effects of the Depression, only two years after the stock market crashed. He was presenting his system as an alternative to the pinko left-wing Commies that were popular in the cities and among the elites, so when he said "everyone" and "the individual," he was referring to his audience: disappointed, frustrated, suffering ethnic Germans. All politicians do this: Why would you accept the promises of a fascist dictator-in-training stumping for support? He was literally Hitler.

And I promise you, that’s only because of the propaganda campaign of the Democrats helped convince so many ignorant people of something that simply isn’t true.

I don’t do propaganda. I defeat it with facts. And the fact is, fascism is exclusively left-wing. It’s a totalitarian ideology. You cannot have small, limited government totalitarianism.

The definition of the left and right wing predate the Democratic party; it's been the same for hundreds of years. It also exists outside of the American system. This isn't a Democrats thing.

Fascism is totalitarian, but that's not the same as left-wing; totalitarianism shows up everywhere. You are correct that there cannot be small, limited government totalitarianism; that is a quality shared by conservatives and libertarians, but not the whole right wing.

And therein lies the problem. This is the exact Democrat propaganda I’m talking about. A spectrum is linear. But since a linear spectrum very easily defeats the propaganda of the left, their latest tactic is to claim that the political spectrum is “almost” a “circle” where the extreme ends almost touch because they are so “similar”.

Of course, everyone with logic and reason knows that right is opposite of left and thus the extreme ends are polar opposites. 0 similarity. Zero.

Political spectrums are constructs used to show one specific political contrast; it is one dimension so it can only show one set of contrasting values among the many in the political system. Reality doesn't conform to the construct; we use the construct to make sense of the reality. If you turn your head sideways, you will see that your spectrum correlates pretty well to the diamond one, just displaying a different contrast.

I will grant this: I am not crazy about how the diamond graphic puts Communism and fascism so close together at the bottom, which I suspect the creators did for geometric reasons. Communism, representing ultimate dictatorship enforcing ultimate forced equality, should really be in the extreme bottom left of a square, while fascism, ultimate dictatorship forcing an ultimate hierarchy, in the extreme bottom right. (One of these days I'll get the time and giveashits needed to make a more accurate chart.)

So they definitely are the same in that they both use brutal, oppressive autocracy to meet their goals, but the political world defines left- and right-wing along the spectrum of equality vs. hierarchy. Spinning the system on its side in order to saddle the other guys with the Nazi tag isn't doing anyone any favors.

 

[P@triot]

Bill Maher is as left-wing as left-wing gets and even he is excoriating the Democrats for how they have embraced extremism over the past 20 years…

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[P@triot]

Yes, it stands for "National Socialist," a term they gave themselves, essentially for market branding.

That again is some of the left’s favorite propaganda. Hitler was 100% socialist. Everything was for the state. Everything. There is nothing “right-wing” about a total commitment to the state.

 

[Kosh]

"Fascism is a system of government led by a dictator who typically rules by forcefully and often violently suppressing opposition and criticism, controlling all industry and commerce, and promoting nationalism and often racism."

I think the far left has this one down..