The Last Letter: A Message to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney From a Dying Veteran

[ABikerSailor]

Except, Saddam allowed Zarqawi to set up a base in Kurdistan (thereby providing cover, saying that it wasn't him) and Saddam made overtures to Bin Laden to relocate to Iraq.

"The enemy of my enemy is my brother"

Got a link to back up either the base in Kurdistan for Zarqawi or that Saddam offered to relocate Bin Laden to Iraq?

Because.................last I heard, OBL considered Saddam to be a heretic and didn't care that much for him at all.

Besides................if he was offered a chance to relocate to Iraq, why did he relocate to Pakistan?

Saddam's Ties To Al Queda - Sam Pender - Google Books

TIMELINE: Zarqawi's road to perdition. - TIME


Why did Bin Laden relocate to Pakistan? He was more concerned with his own survival. He hid.

Not sure if I'm gonna trust a book that someone wrote, because it could be written from a right wing type looking to prove their point with bullshit, smoke and mirrors.

As far as your TIME link? It doesn't say anything about him getting help from Saddam, it says that he got help from other local terrorist groups (not Saddam) in relocating to Iraq.

Remember.................illegals get help relocating here to the U.S., but we still try to find them and get rid of them if possible. I don't really think Saddam was helping Zarqawi.

 

[Faun]

Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq

That doesn't identify the main reason Bush sent troops into Iraq.

Bush announced what the main reason was ... and it was WMD, not the cease fire.

As I said, that's your opinion. The cease-fire is mentioned first in the legislation.

And as I said, you're wrong, it's not my opinion, it's George Bush's opinion. I'm merely conveying to you what he said.

Are you under the opinion that George Bush doesn't know the main reason for why he deployed troops into Iraq??

 

[Wicked Jester]

Thank you, Tomas Young, and best wishes!

Truthdig - The Forgotten Wounded of Iraq

Thank you for what, writing a letter that is nothing more than a collection of Democrat talking points to President Bush? I would think he could think of better things to do with the last few days of his life than serve as a propaganda tool for the Democrat Party.

Have you no shame? Don't you think this dying veteran has earned the right to express his final thoughts?

And if he had said the exact opposite in his letter, your sorry ass, along with most of your liberal brethren up here, would have been bashing him incessently......And don't even try and deny it.

Bottom line, he's entitled to his opinion....as we all are, right or wrong......But don't sit up here trying to express your phoney outrage, as if you actually give a shit about the author of that letter....You exposed yourself looooong ago, lil' man.

 

[asterism]

Which has what to do with what I posted?

Japan attacked us in WWII, we invaded German controlled territory then Japan.

Al Qaeda attacked us in GWII. We invaded Iraq first.

Again, Germany also attacked us, which is what got us into the war in Europe.

Iraq did not attack us. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

Iraq broke the cease fire and we knew that Iraq was the next best alternative for Bin Laden after Afghanistan. Iraq was identified as the "nexus of terrorism." That prediction came true when Zarqawi fled Afghanistan after being routed by US Special Operations types and relocated to Iraq.


I think the ignorance of Middle Eastern and Arab dynamics is what fuels lots of lefties in their continued resistance to the facts that President Obama certainly has acknowledged. Otherwise Obama would have done something different once he got in power right?

What did Obama do differently than which Bush proposed?

 

[asterism]

That doesn't identify the main reason Bush sent troops into Iraq.

Bush announced what the main reason was ... and it was WMD, not the cease fire.

As I said, that's your opinion. The cease-fire is mentioned first in the legislation.

And as I said, you're wrong, it's not my opinion, it's George Bush's opinion. I'm merely conveying to you what he said.

Are you under the opinion that George Bush doesn't know the main reason for why he deployed troops into Iraq??

The record is clear. It's right there in the legislation.

 

[Lakhota]

Year-by-year, month-by-month, now even day-to-day, we're treated to a different rationale for the Iraq war from a different President George W. Bush.

Bush's rationale for Iraq war keeps changing | McClatchy

 

[asterism]

Got a link to back up either the base in Kurdistan for Zarqawi or that Saddam offered to relocate Bin Laden to Iraq?

Because.................last I heard, OBL considered Saddam to be a heretic and didn't care that much for him at all.

Besides................if he was offered a chance to relocate to Iraq, why did he relocate to Pakistan?

Saddam's Ties To Al Queda - Sam Pender - Google Books

TIMELINE: Zarqawi's road to perdition. - TIME


Why did Bin Laden relocate to Pakistan? He was more concerned with his own survival. He hid.

Not sure if I'm gonna trust a book that someone wrote, because it could be written from a right wing type looking to prove their point with bullshit, smoke and mirrors.

As far as your TIME link? It doesn't say anything about him getting help from Saddam, it says that he got help from other local terrorist groups (not Saddam) in relocating to Iraq.

Remember.................illegals get help relocating here to the U.S., but we still try to find them and get rid of them if possible. I don't really think Saddam was helping Zarqawi.

Well then you can do your own research. You asked for links and I gave you unbiased links.

You either believe that Saddam couldn't control what went on within his borders or you don't. Halabja proves that he was quite keen on keeping control in Kuridstan.

 

[Lakhota]

The Sad Reality of How Warmongers and Elite Media Desperately Avoid All Responsibility for Iraq Disaster

 

[asterism]

The Sad Reality of How Warmongers and Elite Media Desperately Avoid All Responsibility for Iraq Disaster

You live in a post-Saddam world. Millions of young Veterans say you're welcome.

 

[Lakhota]

The Sad Reality of How Warmongers and Elite Media Desperately Avoid All Responsibility for Iraq Disaster

You live in a post-Saddam world. Millions of young Veterans say you're welcome.

Iraq Veterans Against the War | You are not alone

 

[Faun]

Japan attacked us in WWII, we invaded German controlled territory then Japan.

Al Qaeda attacked us in GWII. We invaded Iraq first.

Again, Germany also attacked us, which is what got us into the war in Europe.

Iraq did not attack us. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

Iraq broke the cease fire and we knew that Iraq was the next best alternative for Bin Laden after Afghanistan. Iraq was identified as the "nexus of terrorism." That prediction came true when Zarqawi fled Afghanistan after being routed by US Special Operations types and relocated to Iraq.


I think the ignorance of Middle Eastern and Arab dynamics is what fuels lots of lefties in their continued resistance to the facts that President Obama certainly has acknowledged. Otherwise Obama would have done something different once he got in power right?

What did Obama do differently than which Bush proposed?

None of that establishes a connection between Iraq and 9/11, which did not actually exist.

So again, the purported vet in the OP was duped. He signed up to fight those who attacked us on 9/11, but was instead used to fight some other war that George Bush chose to fight.

 

[Faun]

As I said, that's your opinion. The cease-fire is mentioned first in the legislation.

And as I said, you're wrong, it's not my opinion, it's George Bush's opinion. I'm merely conveying to you what he said.

Are you under the opinion that George Bush doesn't know the main reason for why he deployed troops into Iraq??

The record is clear. It's right there in the legislation.

The record you cite does not indicate what the main reason for invading Iraq was.

George Bush, who was placed in the position of being the sole person capable of deciding whether or not to go to war with Iraq, has indicated what that main reason was; and according to him, that reason was WMD.

And I note, you didn't address my question ...

Are you under the opinion that George Bush doesn't know the main reason for why he deployed troops into Iraq??

 

[Erand7899]

Thank you, Tomas Young, and best wishes!

Truthdig - The Forgotten Wounded of Iraq

Thank you for what, writing a letter that is nothing more than a collection of Democrat talking points to President Bush? I would think he could think of better things to do with the last few days of his life than serve as a propaganda tool for the Democrat Party.

Have you no shame? Don't you think this dying veteran has earned the right to express his final thoughts?

Everyone, including dying veterans have the right to express their thoughts, on any subject they so wish to do so. The simple fact that he is a veteran, or even a dying veteran doesn't give him a dime's worth of extra credibility in his phony rant about war crimes or any illegal war. All of you left wing loons seem to thrive on drama, and if you can't find it, you make it up yourselves.

 

[Lakhota]

Thank you for what, writing a letter that is nothing more than a collection of Democrat talking points to President Bush? I would think he could think of better things to do with the last few days of his life than serve as a propaganda tool for the Democrat Party.

Have you no shame? Don't you think this dying veteran has earned the right to express his final thoughts?

Everyone, including dying veterans have the right to express their thoughts, on any subject they so wish to do so. The simple fact that he is a veteran, or even a dying veteran doesn't give him a dime's worth of extra credibility in his phony rant about war crimes or any illegal war. All of you left wing loons seem to thrive on drama, and if you can't find it, you make it up yourselves.

You mean like Benghazi and all the other Obama conspiracy theories?

The Debunker's Guide to Obama Conspiracy Theories

 

[Wicked Jester]

Have you no shame? Don't you think this dying veteran has earned the right to express his final thoughts?

Everyone, including dying veterans have the right to express their thoughts, on any subject they so wish to do so. The simple fact that he is a veteran, or even a dying veteran doesn't give him a dime's worth of extra credibility in his phony rant about war crimes or any illegal war. All of you left wing loons seem to thrive on drama, and if you can't find it, you make it up yourselves.

You mean like Benghazi and all the other Obama conspiracy theories?

The Debunker's Guide to Obama Conspiracy Theories

Do you actually believe that anybody, beyond your fellow whackjobs, actually reads ANY links you provide, seeing as though they all involve links to the loony liberal bullshit you actually believe?

Too fuckin' funny!

 

[Faun]

Everyone, including dying veterans have the right to express their thoughts, on any subject they so wish to do so. The simple fact that he is a veteran, or even a dying veteran doesn't give him a dime's worth of extra credibility in his phony rant about war crimes or any illegal war. All of you left wing loons seem to thrive on drama, and if you can't find it, you make it up yourselves.

You mean like Benghazi and all the other Obama conspiracy theories?

The Debunker's Guide to Obama Conspiracy Theories

Do you actually believe that anybody, beyond your fellow whackjobs, actually reads ANY links you provide, seeing as though they all involve links to the loony liberal bullshit you actually believe?

Too fuckin' funny!

Well somebody's reading them given that of those polled, 56% now believe it was a mistake to send troops to Iraq, but Liberals only comprise about 20% of the population.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[velvtacheeze]

65 more Iraqis who were better off under Saddam.

Iraq Attacks Across Baghdad Kill 65, Wound Hundreds

BAGHDAD — Insurgents sent a bloody message on the eve of the 10th anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion, carrying out a wave of bombings across the country Tuesday that killed at least 65 people in the deadliest day in Iraq this year.

The nearly 20 attacks, most of them in and around Baghdad, demonstrated in stark terms how dangerously divided Iraq remains more than a year after American troops withdrew. More than 240 people were reported wounded.

But I thought Obama finished the job in Iraq?

He did. He was hired to end that stupid, useless war, and he did it. It's why he won in 2008 and 2012. Conservatives haven't learned a thing from their failed Iraq War.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Conservatives, tell the board about the lessons you've learned from your mistakes, especially the Iraq War. I'd like to hear why you now know that your bellicose position made the US and Iraq worse off. What's it like knowing that liberals were right all along? After losing two Presidential elections in a row because of your mistakes, what would you have done differently?

A larger invasion force, a shorter timeline for rebuilding, reorganized the Iraqi military under supportive leaders.

You haven't learned a thing. Your oafish plan would have led to more US deaths, a sloppier withdrawal, and an Iraqi military without any leadership, since there would not have been enough supportive Iraqi leaders to lead it.

The GOP has lost two Presidential elections in a row because the American people do not trust the party with power, and it's the fault of conservatives who support the Iraq War to this very day.

The correct answer you should have given is "The Iraq War was a huge mistake, all US deaths were in vain, the GOP is almost entirely to blame, Bush & Cheney are war criminals, and we will not repeat the mistake again."

 

[jknowgood]

Thank you, Tomas Young, and best wishes!

Truthdig - The Forgotten Wounded of Iraq

Thank you for what, writing a letter that is nothing more than a collection of Democrat talking points to President Bush? I would think he could think of better things to do with the last few days of his life than serve as a propaganda tool for the Democrat Party.

Nice work trashing our troops. You right wingers are disgusting.

I'm sure you would say the same if a vet wrote the same letter to obama? Writing it to him because he didn't keep his promise to end the iraq war in his first year. No, i'm sure you would call him names or ignore him.