The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

Speaking of politics, murder and mysteries, I see there's a new book out on the murder of former IL senator Chuck Percy's daughter, Valerie, in 1966. It's called Sympathy Vote: a reinvestigation of the valerie percy murder.
 
I HEARD THE AUDIO TAPE AND CONFIRMED THAT JEAN HILL DID SAY SHE WAS SURE THERE WAS A GUNSHOT IN THE CAR.

Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them in 1971. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point. HILL SAW GREER'S SHOT.

Had the question been "from in front of the car or simply, in front of the car", that could certainly have meant somewhere outside the car but those words weren't used. FROM THE FRONT OF THE CAR LEAVES DOUBT THAT HE MEANT INSIDE THE CAR. TAKE OUT FROM AND YOU HAVE, THE FRONT OF THE CAR. VERY SPECIFIC. The key word here is, the, instead of in.

Roy Dennis: But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car?

Jean Hill: Yes.

The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when askedÂ…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:

Creepy for sure, including Roy! What about that transcript of Jean Hill? Even just some of it. Are these from your interviews? Are they accurate?

Zapruder Film Shows JFK's Driver Firing Fatal Head Shot (August 7, 2007)

1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.

2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee

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During this time Dad (FRED NEWCOMB) and his two associates Gil Toff and Roy Dennis telephonically interviewed nearly 50 witnesses comprising 30 hours of tape. Many of these interviews became the basis for the book. One cannot listen to some of the Dallas Police officers interviewed (who smelled “gunpowder right there in the street” and heard shots “right next to me”) and not come away convinced there really was gunfire from within the motorcade. One cannot listen to 2 police officers stationed at Parkland Hospital who were standing next to the Limo and who each saw a bullet hole in the windshield and not become convinced of evidence tampering by the Secret Service.


Jean Hill saw Greer shoot Kennedy

She was just speculating that Greer was shooting back at whomever was shooting at the President. This was an easy way of saying it without exactly saying it. But in those moments she may have thought it because it would be shocking to see your President killed intentionally by the men who took an oath to protect him from assassination attempts. Mrs. Hill clearly turned to the left as the limo passed by in response to the shots and Greer suddenly braking during his second turn to execute the coup de grâce.

Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.

Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.
Mr. SPECTER - And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?
Mrs. HILL - That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet---further down.
Mr. SPECTER - Which shots, now---you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?

Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."

Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right
.

Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.

Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk. FRAME 310.

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I HEARD THE AUDIO TAPE AND CONFIRMED THAT JEAN HILL DID SAY SHE WAS SURE THERE WAS A GUNSHOT IN THE CAR.


yeh and the cia is going to leave self incriminating evidence in a video just so you can be a hero and expose them.
 
I am beginning to have this very strong feeling ......very strong.... that it was the CIA who killed the President.

I am 95% sure. :thup:

It was the CIA.
 
jfk assassination films-orville nix - Video Dailymotion

Advance to 1:09 for the close-up. Robert Groden narrarates but ignores Greer's left arm movement and focuses on the headshot.

I started looking at the Zapruder film in 7-09 and it went from there. I got the closeup of Greer's arm going over in 9-2010. That's what's made it factual. I paid a guy a whopping thirty dollars to enhance it. Once that was clear this case was closed for everyone willing to look past all the nonsense that came before it. If Greer's left arm really moved back toward JFK just the way it appears to in Zapruder, then he was definitely the shooter. They apparently had to create a cartoon of Greer shooting jfk, which is quite comical to say the least.

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Welcome back. We were getting tired of the idiot who is trying to take your place. :eusa_whistle:

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The driver was somehow able to smuggle a gun into the president's car without knowledge of the SS. Then he was able to shoot Kennedy without Kennedy, or Jackie, or the senator in the passenger seat seeing him. Then he was able to shoot senator Connelly after that without him seeing it or knowing it.

Yeah perfectly reasonable.
 
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and the child agent rat in the ass "who always whines to the mods about me like the crybaby he is" as always comes back to show off his obsession with me.like clockwork,so predictable he is.
 
V. Palamara: 'Medical Reference' book (excerpt)

JFK Lancer

The damage to the cerebellum confirms the exit wound was low at the lowest point, but definitely extended to the Parietal bone, and likely to the Temporal region. That is consistent with the autopsy report.

1) Dr. William Kemp Clark, Chief Neurosurgeon:
WR 516-518/ 17 H 1-3 / CE 392 [undated summary; see also 21 H 150-152
:Clark's 11/23/63 report to Admiral Burkley with the verbatim summary .
In addition, see "Assassination Science", pp. 416-418: this is an FBI
report dated 11/25/63 which includes the verbatim summary to Burkley
from 11/23/63]---"..in the occipital region of the skull "; "There was a
large wound in the right occipitoparietal region "; "Both cerebral and
cerebellar tissue were extruding from the wound
.";

2) Dr. Malcolm Oliver "Mac" Perry, Attending Surgeon:
a) WR 521-522/ 17 H 6-7/ CE392: report written 11/22/63---"A large wound
of the right posterior cranium ";
b) Parkland press conference, 11/22/63 [see "Assassination Science", pp.
419-427; silent film clip used in "Reasonable Doubt" (1988), "20/20"
(4/92), etc.]---"There was an entrance wound in the neck It appeared to
be coming at him The wound appeared to be an entrance wound in the front
of the throat; yes, that is correct. The exit wound, I don't know. It
could have been the head or there could have been a second wound of the
head." (apparently, based off this conference, the Associated Press
dispatch on 11/22/63 stated that Dr. Perry "said the entrance wound was
in the front of the head
," while all the AP wires for this day stated
that JFK had a large hole in the "back" of his head.);

3) Dr. Robert Nelson McClelland, Attending Surgeon:
a) WR 526-527 / 17 H 11-12 / CE 392: report written 11/22/63---" a
massive gunshot wound of the head with a fragment wound of the
trachea The cause of death was due to massive head and brain injury from
a gunshot wound of the left temple.";
b) "St. Louis Post-Dispatch", 12/1/63---"This [the neck wound] did
appear to be an entrance wound."
c)e) 6 H 33-34, 35, 37 / testimony---" I could very closely examine the
head wound, and I noted that the right posterior portion of the skull
had been extremely blasted probably a third or so
, at least, of the
brain tissue, posterior cerebral tissue and some of the cerebellar
tissue had been blasted out
"; " there was definitely a piece of
cerebellum that extruded from the wound "; " the loss of cerebral and
cerebellar tissues were so great massive head injuries with loss of
large amounts of cerebral and cerebellar tissues "; "The initial
impression that we had was that perhaps the wound in the neck, the
anterior part of the neck, was an entrance wound and that it had perhaps
taken a trajectory off the anterior vertebral body and again into the
skull itself, exiting out the back, to produce the massive injury in the
head.";

4) Dr. Marion Thomas "Pepper" Jenkins, Chief Anesthesiologist [deceased
11/22/94]:
WR 529-530 / 17 H 14-15 / CE 392: report addressed to Administrator
C.J. Price dated 11/22/63 (the verbatim, retyped report, this time
addressed to Dean A.J. Gill, can be found at 20 H 252-253)---" a great
laceration on the right side of the head (temporal and occipital),
causing a great defect in the skull plate so that there was herniation
and laceration of great areas of the brain, even to the extent that the
cerebellum had portruded from the wound
."[see also p. 35 of Jesse
Curry's 1969 book entitled "JFK Assassination File"];

5) Dr. Charles James "Jim" Carrico, Resident Surgeon:
a) WR 519-520 / 17 H 4-5 / CE 392: handwritten report dated
11/22/63---"[the skull] wound had avulsed the calvarium and shredded
brain tissue present with profuse oozing attempts to control slow oozing
from cerebral and cerebellar tissue via packs instituted
."; "small
penetrating wound of ent. neck";

6) Dr. Ronald Coy Jones, Chief Resident Surgeon:
a) 20 H 333: handwritten report dated 11/23/63---" severe skull and
brain injury was noted as well as a small hole in anterior midline of
neck thought to be a bullet entrance wound air was bubbling through the
neck wound.";
b)a) 6 H 53-54, 56 / testimony (3/24/64)---" he had a large wound in the
right posterior side of the head There was large defect in the back side
of the head
as the President lay on the cart with what appeared to be
some brain hanging out of this wound with multiple pieces of skull noted
with the brain "; "what appeared to be an exit wound in the posterior
portion of the skull
the only speculation that I could have as far as to
how this could occur with a single wound would be that it would enter
the anterior neck and possibly strike a vertebral body and then change
its course and exit in the region of the posterior portion of the
head."; "The hole [in the throat] was very small and relatively clean
cut, as you would see in a bullet that is entering rather than exiting
from a patient.";

7) Dr. Gene Coleman Akin, Resident Anesthesiologist [a.k.a. Solomon Ben
Israel]:
6 H 65 and 67 / testimony---"The back of the right occipitalparietal
portion of his head was shattered
, with brain substance extruding."; "I
assume the right occiptalparietal region was the exit,
so to speak, that
he had probably been hit on the other side of the head, or at least
tangentially in the back of the head "; "this [the neck wound] must have
been an entrance wound ";

8) Dr. Paul Conrad Peters, Urologist:
6 H 70-71 / testimony---"It was pointed out that an examination of the
brain had been done we saw the wound of entry in the throat and noted
the large occipital wound ";" I noticed that there was a large defect in
the occiput It seemed to me that in the right occipitalparietal area
that there was a large defect
.";

9) Dr. Charles A. Crenshaw, Resident Surgeon:
a) "Conspiracy of Silence" (1992), p. 86 (and throughout [inc. photos of
himself])---"I walked to the President's head to get a closer look. His
entire right cerebral hemisphere appeared to be gone. It looked like a
crater---an empty cavity From the damage I saw, there was no doubt in my
mind that the bullet had entered his head through the front
, and as it
surgically passed through his cranium, the missile obliterated part of
the temporal and all the parietal and occipital lobes before it
lacerated the cerebellum
."; [p. 79] "I also identified a small opening
about the diameter of a pencil at the midline of his throat to be an
entry bullet hole. There was no doubt in my mind about that wound.";
b) "High Treason 2", pp. 110-115 and 549 (interviews of 7/12/80 [90?]
and 9/21/91)---" it was in the parietal-occipital area"; thinks the
body was tampered with at Bethesda
;
c) WC references to his presence on 11/22/63: 6 H 40 (Baxter), 6 H 31-32
(McClelland), 6 H 80-81 (Salyer), 6 H 141 (Henchcliffe), 6 H 60
(Curtis)+15 H 761: index;
d) Completely overlooked WC reference to his presence on 11/24/63: 21 H
265(report by Parkland Administrator Charles Price)---"Dr. Charles
Crenshaw was in the corridor and said they had been alerted. He said,
'You're not going to put him [Oswald] in the same room the President was
in, are you?' told him I surely was glad he had thought of it and by
all means, not to.";

 
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