Zone1 the Jews - is that more an ethnic or more a religious term for you?

[Zebra]

sometimes there is some confusion about this topic.

i wonder what comes to your mind first.

 

[Votto]

What comes to mind? The same thing that comes to mind with all your threads asking what comes to mind

 

[norwegen]

To my mind, Jews were an ancient tribal people, of Judah. Ethnic. They did very little proselytizing.

After their extermination in the Jewish Revolts, Judaism had become rabbinic, much less ethnic and more religious.

 

[Zebra]

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is that animal religious or ethnic?

 

[Votto]

is that animal religious or ethnic?

Yes

 

[ding]

is that animal religious or ethnic?

Something tells me he does not appreciate your threads.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

What comes to mind? The same thing that comes to mind with all your threads asking what comes to mind

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Whistle Wonks

What comes to my mind is football referees.

 

[PeterPilot]

I think Hannah Arendt and Albert Einstein were right 80 years ago--by all means the Jews should have a homeland, but it should not include statehood.

 

[Woodznutz]

I think Hannah Arendt and Albert Einstein were right 80 years ago--by all means the Jews should have a homeland, but it should not include statehood.

Why not, many of the other Israelite tribal descendants do. (See British Israelism.)

 

[PeterPilot]

Why not, many of the other Israelite tribal descendants do.

Only in retrospect, if one is allowed to do so.

In retrospect, knowing the criticism of statehood offered by Einstein, everything he said has come true with a vengeance. The state of Israel has gone on in short order to fulfill the commands of "The Lord" in Deuteronomy 7 and more. They have attacked their neighbors, killed and raped in the process, and seized land from their neighbors. How did Einstein know that?

 

[Woodznutz]

Only in retrospect, if one is allowed to do so.

In retrospect, knowing the criticism of statehood offered by Einstein, everything he said has come true with a vengeance. The state of Israel has gone on in short order to fulfill the commands of "The Lord" in Deuteronomy 7 and more. They have attacked their neighbors, killed and raped in the process, and seized land from their neighbors. How did Einstein know that?

Maybe he knew their true warlike nature.

 

[irosie91]

Only in retrospect, if one is allowed to do so.

In retrospect, knowing the criticism of statehood offered by Einstein, everything he said has come true with a vengeance. The state of Israel has gone on in short order to fulfill the commands of "The Lord" in Deuteronomy 7 and more. They have attacked their neighbors, killed and raped in the process, and seized land from their neighbors. How did Einstein know that?

what did the ardent Zionist, Albert Einstein, say ?

 

[Zebra]

To my mind, Jews were an ancient tribal people, of Judah. Ethnic. They did very little proselytizing.

After their extermination in the Jewish Revolts, Judaism had become rabbinic, much less ethnic and more religious.

yes, no proselytizing ...

 

[PeterPilot]

Maybe he knew their true warlike nature.

I think you're right. He did make reference to the Zionists, comparing them to the Nazis of Germany in their methods and philosophy, in their thoughts and actions.

 

[PeterPilot]

what did the ardent Zionist, Albert Einstein, say ?

If it's true that he was an ardent Zionist, he at least distinguished between a Jewish homeland and Jewish Statehood.

 

[irosie91]

I think you're right. He did make reference to the Zionists, comparing them to the Nazis of Germany in their methods and philosophy, in their thoughts and actions.

oh----you read that source-----so did I----another islamo nazi twist on Albert's
disapproval and somewhat poorly understood single action attributed to Menachem Begin.
Interesting that you are bringing up the Starvation siege of Jerusalem. Starvation siege
is a very much used tool employed in islamo-nazi aggression----In fact it was used to get
rid of the Zoroastrians-----in a sense Bombay owes its origin to muzzie starvation siege

 

[norwegen]

yes, no proselytizing ...

I shouldn't say they were exterminated entirely. That was only in Judea.

The diaspora remained but continued to disperse in the Roman Empire. They also continued to intermarry, and, eventually could not claim any Davidic heritage. With a diluted bloodline and a wholly reconstituted religion, that is essentially all they are now: a religion.

 

[Woodznutz]

I shouldn't say they were exterminated entirely. That was only in Judea.

The diaspora remained but continued to disperse in the Roman Empire. They also continued to intermarry, and, eventually could not claim any Davidic heritage. With a diluted bloodline and a wholly reconstituted religion, that is essentially all they are now: a religion.

See Ezekiel 5.
God has preserved a remnant of pure ethnic Jews, just as he has the other tribes. Even today Jews eschew marrying outside of their 'race'.

 

[ding]

I think Hannah Arendt and Albert Einstein were right 80 years ago--by all means the Jews should have a homeland, but it should not include statehood.

That wasn’t the question the OP was asking.

 

[ding]

…They have attacked their neighbors, killed and raped in the process, and seized land from their neighbors…

Every coin has two sides. I’m not sure your side of the coin is objective.