The Jewish state

[Beelzebub]

Link? I am not questioning your statement. I would just like a recommended source.

The Racist is saying he sees nothing wrong with a " Palestinian State" which forbids all Israelis, approves 57 Arab/ Muslim States ; Many of them without freedom of Religion. , yet he doesn't believe there should be a Jewish State where Arabs and Christians do reside. Consider the source.

Your comparison makes no sense.
Palestinian is a nationality.
Jewish is religious.

You can have a Palestinian Jew, Christian or Muslim.
You cannot have a Jewish, Christian or Muslim Jew. Just the Jewish one.

 

[montelatici]

"building a state around the racial characteristics of the Israelites"

The Germans tried build a state around the racial characteristics of the Germans. Didn't turn out too well.

 

[editec]

Israel is trying to proclaim itself a Jewish state, where only Jews have the right of return and other groups are less than welcome.
That being the case, the Jews must think they're better than the rest of the world, thus no one else is fit to live with them.
If that's the case, should Jews be deported from everywhere else and dumped in Israel?
After all, they're too good to live with other people.
Of course, if they're better than everyone else, the Jewish state would not soil itself with gentile money.

Do you agree?

Hmmmm....le,me think about that for a moment.

Okay I'm done.

Nope.

And bear in mind, NAZI scum, I do not support the state of Israel.

 

[RandomVariable]

Link? I am not questioning your statement. I would just like a recommended source.

The Racist is saying he sees nothing wrong with a " Palestinian State" which forbids all Israelis, approves 57 Arab/ Muslim States ; Many of them without freedom of Religion. , yet he doesn't believe there should be a Jewish State where Arabs and Christians do reside. Consider the source.

It is a interesting question, and not a simple one. If I own my property and I say I want no one on my land then that is OK, yes? If I only want left handers on my property, still OK, true? If I say everyone can come on my land but then I beat the right handers with a stick not OK, no? Does the same apply to nations?

 

[RandomVariable]

Link? I am not questioning your statement. I would just like a recommended source.

The Racist is saying he sees nothing wrong with a " Palestinian State" which forbids all Israelis, approves 57 Arab/ Muslim States ; Many of them without freedom of Religion. , yet he doesn't believe there should be a Jewish State where Arabs and Christians do reside. Consider the source.

Your comparison makes no sense.
Palestinian is a nationality.
Jewish is religious.

You can have a Palestinian Jew, Christian or Muslim.
You cannot have a Jewish, Christian or Muslim Jew. Just the Jewish one.

Every one of those are labels.

 

[Phoenall]

Not me saying that but INTERNATIONAL LAW through genetics and debate. The UN decided that there was to be a race known as Jewish and a Religion followed by Jews.


So the Jews are not trying to create a state around one religion as they allow other religions to be practised, they are building a state around the racial characteristics of the Israelites

Let me get this right - you're saying, Jews are a genetic group.
But, that would seem a little inaccurate as some Jews are black, but others are pretty much white.

Ethnicity vs Race - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

The traditional definition of race and ethnicity is related to biological and sociological factors respectively. Race refers to a person's physical appearance, such as skin color, eye color, hair color, bone/jaw structure etc. Ethnicity, on the other hand, relates to cultural factors such as nationality, culture, ancestry, language and beliefs.

From that, an ethnic group would seem closer.

The United States Supreme Court once ruled that Jews are a race - I think for the first time since Hitler.
I understand many Jews were less than happy with that.

Judaism 101: What Is Judaism?
I would tend to agree with the text in the link above.

Not at all as many Palestinians vary in skin tone from white to very dark, in hair colour from blonde to black and in stature and body build. Does not mean that they are not racially arab muslims does it. The same with all other races, or do you want to be a rabid racist and claim that skin tone is the only defining aspect of a persons race.

Now you are trying to use religion as an example of race, and the Jews are damn glad that they are a RACE, RELIGION and NATIONALITY all encompassed in one term.

 

[Phoenall]

Link? I am not questioning your statement. I would just like a recommended source.

The Racist is saying he sees nothing wrong with a " Palestinian State" which forbids all Israelis, approves 57 Arab/ Muslim States ; Many of them without freedom of Religion. , yet he doesn't believe there should be a Jewish State where Arabs and Christians do reside. Consider the source.

Your comparison makes no sense.
Palestinian is a nationality.
Jewish is religious.

You can have a Palestinian Jew, Christian or Muslim.
You cannot have a Jewish, Christian or Muslim Jew. Just the Jewish one.

Only since 1988 before that it was a nasty term for a JEW as used by the arab muslims

 

[Phoenall]

"building a state around the racial characteristics of the Israelites"

The Germans tried that too. Didn't turn out too well.

So when did the Germans try to build a state round the racial characteristics of the Israelites ?

LINK PLEASE................

 

[Phoenall]

Link? I am not questioning your statement. I would just like a recommended source.

The Racist is saying he sees nothing wrong with a " Palestinian State" which forbids all Israelis, approves 57 Arab/ Muslim States ; Many of them without freedom of Religion. , yet he doesn't believe there should be a Jewish State where Arabs and Christians do reside. Consider the source.

It is a interesting question, and not a simple one. If I own my property and I say I want no one on my land then that is OK, yes? If I only want left handers on my property, still OK, true? If I say everyone can come on my land but then I beat the right handers with a stick not OK, no? Does the same apply to nations?

Not to the Islamic ones it seems as they beat everyone with big sticks, and then defile them for good measure.

 

[Phoenall]

The Racist is saying he sees nothing wrong with a " Palestinian State" which forbids all Israelis, approves 57 Arab/ Muslim States ; Many of them without freedom of Religion. , yet he doesn't believe there should be a Jewish State where Arabs and Christians do reside. Consider the source.

Your comparison makes no sense.
Palestinian is a nationality.
Jewish is religious.

You can have a Palestinian Jew, Christian or Muslim.
You cannot have a Jewish, Christian or Muslim Jew. Just the Jewish one.

Every one of those are labels.

Actually you can if they are born to a Jewish mother and convert out of judasim, they are still Jews racially

 

[proudveteran06]

Link? I am not questioning your statement. I would just like a recommended source.

The Racist is saying he sees nothing wrong with a " Palestinian State" which forbids all Israelis, approves 57 Arab/ Muslim States ; Many of them without freedom of Religion. , yet he doesn't believe there should be a Jewish State where Arabs and Christians do reside. Consider the source.

Your comparison makes no sense.
Palestinian is a nationality.
Jewish is religious.

You can have a Palestinian Jew, Christian or Muslim.
You cannot have a Jewish, Christian or Muslim Jew. Just the Jewish one.

Your comparison makes no sense.

The majority of the Palestinians are Muslim

There are going to be Jews in the Palestinian State?

There are Arabs and Christians in Israel


Abbas: Arabs in Israel; No Jews in Palestine « Commentary Magazine


Abbas: Arabs in Israel; No Jews in Palestine
Jonathan S. Tobin | @tobincommentary
07.30.2013 - 10:50 AM


While in Cairo yesterday to meet with Egypt’s new leaders, Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas let drop a few remarks about the peace negotiations with Israel that began in Washington last night. As the Times of Israel reports, Abbas left no doubt about what his vision of peace entails:

“In a final resolution, we would not see the presence of a single Israeli — civilian or soldier — on our lands,” Abbas said following a meeting with interim Egyptian President Adly Mansour in Cairo.

The statement provoked little comment in the Western press, and no wonder. Most of the mainstream media has long accepted the Palestinian formulation that sees the presence of Israelis in the West Bank and Jerusalem as the primary obstacle to peace with the Palestinians. From this frame of reference, the peace equation is simple. No Israelis in Palestine means the conflict disappears. Therefore the sole object of peace negotiations is to leverage Israelis out of the areas that were illegally occupied by Jordan from 1948 to 1967.

But the problem here is not just that this is an absurd distortion of reality that ignores Jewish rights and security needs. The Abbas statement provides some important context for the key Israeli demand that the Palestinians refuse to accept: PA acknowledgement of the legitimacy of Israel as a Jewish state. If Palestinians think there is something racist about Israel being accepted as the sole Jewish state in the world, why is it OK for them to envision an independent state of their own where Jewish communities would have to be destroyed and their inhabitants be evicted?


Peace processers and Israel’s critics claim this reasoning is nit-picking, but this actually goes to the heart of the problem that Secretary of State John Kerry and his aide Martin Indyk are trying to unravel in the negotiations they have worked so hard to bring about.

The Palestinian position remains that specific acceptance on their part of Israel as a Jewish state would undermine the rights of the Arab minority inside the pre-1967 lines and force them to make a judgment about the country’s internal arrangements. But the whole point of the conflict since its beginnings a century ago has always been the Arab rejection of the return of the Jews to their ancient homeland. If Palestinians are determined to create an independent state where there are no Jews, why then are they so afraid of agreeing that their neighbors will be a Jewish state?

The reason for this is no mystery.

More than any compromise on borders, accepting Israel as a Jewish state would be an open acknowledgement that the conflict is finished. It would mean the descendants of the Palestinian refugees of 1948 would have to be resettled elsewhere and all terrorism and efforts to erase Israel inside its contracted borders would cease.

Abbas wants 'not a single Israeli' in future Palestinian state | Reuters

He has also declared NO ISRAELIS meaning BOTH Jewish and Arab Israelis

Of course to you this isn't racist. It's because you are one.