The Israeli Criminals Behind the NSA Spy Scandal

[eots]

that's another twoofer steaming pile of shit...

thisi pathetic clown just says..no it isn't without offering any counter evidence
then if you supply him with the evidence he will just move his goal post and say..it does not matter they rapidly shipped the metal off ...he has no real interest in what is true

another classic false assumption .
there is no credible evidence to support that the wtc steel was whisk away for any other purpose but recycling..
your crapspirasy myth doesn't cut it.
be side there are many tons of wtc steel on display : World Trade Center steel on display in Denver | Video | 9news.com

speaking about me in the third person is chicken shit. but typical ..

"so you agree it was indeed whisked away..."...except for this flat deck of scrap

 

[daws101]

thisi pathetic clown just says..no it isn't without offering any counter evidence
then if you supply him with the evidence he will just move his goal post and say..it does not matter they rapidly shipped the metal off ...he has no real interest in what is true

another classic false assumption .
there is no credible evidence to support that the wtc steel was whisk away for any other purpose but recycling..
your crapspirasy myth doesn't cut it.
be side there are many tons of wtc steel on display : World Trade Center steel on display in Denver | Video | 9news.com

speaking about me in the third person is chicken shit. but typical ..

"so you agree it was indeed whisked away..."...except for this flat deck of scrap

WRONG SHIT FOR BRAINS ! whisked away is a facetious statement: facetious [fuh-see-shuhs] Show IPA
adjective
1.
not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
2.
amusing; humorous.
3.
lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous: a facetious person.

it's amusing just how ignorant you are...

 

[eots]

another classic false assumption .
there is no credible evidence to support that the wtc steel was whisk away for any other purpose but recycling..
your crapspirasy myth doesn't cut it.
be side there are many tons of wtc steel on display : World Trade Center steel on display in Denver | Video | 9news.com

speaking about me in the third person is chicken shit. but typical ..

"so you agree it was indeed whisked away..."...except for this flat deck of scrap

WRONG SHIT FOR BRAINS ! whisked away isa facetious ...a·ce·tious [fuh-see-shuhs] Show IPA
adjective
1.
not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
2.
amusing; humorous.
3.
lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous: a facetious person.

it's amusing just how ignorant you are...

Spoliation of a fire scene is a basis for destroying a legal case in an investigation. Most of the steel was discarded, although the key elements of the core steel were demographically labeled. A careful reading of the NIST report shows that they have no evidence that the temperatures they predict as necessary for failure are corroborated by findings of the little steel debris they have. Why hasn't NIST declared that this spoliation of the steel was a gross error?


OpEdNews - Page 2 of Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

 

[daws101]

"so you agree it was indeed whisked away..."...except for this flat deck of scrap

WRONG SHIT FOR BRAINS ! whisked away isa facetious ...a·ce·tious [fuh-see-shuhs] Show IPA
adjective
1.
not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
2.
amusing; humorous.
3.
lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous: a facetious person.

it's amusing just how ignorant you are...

Spoliation of a fire scene is a basis for destroying a legal case in an investigation. Most of the steel was discarded, although the key elements of the core steel were demographically labeled. A careful reading of the NIST report shows that they have no evidence that the temperatures they predict as necessary for failure are corroborated by findings of the little steel debris they have. Why hasn't NIST declared that this spoliation of the steel was a gross error?


OpEdNews - Page 2 of Article: Former Chief of NIST's Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation

it's amusing just how ignorant you are...

 

[SFC Ollie]

Because it wasn't a crime investigation in the first several days but a rescue mission....Then a recovery mission....

And yet all the scrap and debris was searched by hand and not one sign of any explosive or blasting cap or Det cord was found....

Of course that doesn't matter because those facts don't fit the wannabe facts.....

 

[eots]

Because it wasn't a crime investigation in the first several days but a rescue mission....Then a recovery mission....

And yet all the scrap and debris was searched by hand and not one sign of any explosive or blasting cap or Det cord was found....

Of course that doesn't matter because those facts don't fit the wannabe facts.....

the death of 3000 people is not a crime ? the buildings in which they occur is not a crime scene ? and stop with your silliness about det cord and blasting caps already we have been through that a million times... and btw they claim they never found black boxes either..but yet found a charred terrorist passport on the side walk..lol

 

[SFC Ollie]

Because it wasn't a crime investigation in the first several days but a rescue mission....Then a recovery mission....

And yet all the scrap and debris was searched by hand and not one sign of any explosive or blasting cap or Det cord was found....

Of course that doesn't matter because those facts don't fit the wannabe facts.....

the death of 3000 people is not a crime ? the buildings in which they occur is not a crime scene ? and stop with your silliness about det cord and blasting caps already we have been through that a million times... and btw they claim they never found black boxes either..but yet found a charred terrorist passport on the side walk..lol

And? You want us to believe that all evidence of an explosive is destroyed in an explosion, yet thousands of things were found and returned to family members.... Watches rings guns Id's, keys.....You haven't proven that all physical evidence simply disappears....Because it doesn't....And Yes i believe that the crews at fresh kills would have found remnants of more than one of the hundreds (or thousands) of demo charges that would have been needed.......

 

[eots]

Because it wasn't a crime investigation in the first several days but a rescue mission....Then a recovery mission....

And yet all the scrap and debris was searched by hand and not one sign of any explosive or blasting cap or Det cord was found....

Of course that doesn't matter because those facts don't fit the wannabe facts.....

the death of 3000 people is not a crime ? the buildings in which they occur is not a crime scene ? and stop with your silliness about det cord and blasting caps already we have been through that a million times... and btw they claim they never found black boxes either..but yet found a charred terrorist passport on the side walk..lol

And? You want us to believe that all evidence of an explosive is destroyed in an explosion, yet thousands of things were found and returned to family members.... Watches rings guns Id's, keys.....You haven't proven that all physical evidence simply disappears....Because it doesn't....And Yes i believe that the crews at fresh kills would have found remnants of more than one of the hundreds (or thousands) of demo charges that would have been needed.......

there is a big difference between finding a ring and ignited det cord ollie

 

[eots]

but what happened to those indestructible black boxes ???...they found terrorist passports and bandannas but no black boxes ????...you actually believe that ?

 

[SFC Ollie]

Quite certain there were probably millions of things they didn't find.

And there were millions of things that they did find. Like pieces of paper....It was all over the place...

And chunks of bodies scattered here and there.........

So the supposedly indestructible black boxes weren't found. Does that really matter since the truthers deny the info that came out of the ones that were found?

I can understand how some strange and different things happened that morning. I cannot understand how those buildings could have been demolished by CD...simply no audio or visual or physical proof of it...

 

[eots]

quite certain there were probably millions of things they didn't find.

And there were millions of things that they did find. Like pieces of paper....it was all over the place...

And chunks of bodies scattered here and there.........

So the supposedly indestructible black boxes weren't found. Does that really matter since the truthers deny the info that came out of the ones that were found?

I can understand how some strange and different things happened that morning. I cannot understand how those buildings could have been demolished by cd...simply no audio or visual or physical proof of it...

anyone that buys these passport stories would fail any class on statistical probabilties

 

[eots]

And it did not just happen once...it happened twice

 

[eots]

Maybe they should make black boxes out of high-jacker passport material

 

[member]

what you have done a billion times is avoid all questions you can not answer by claiming you have already answered..

you would say that...it's false, but it's the best you can do..

"you are a joke...even you know that..this is the reason you can not answer direct questions and have to try and pretend you already did...time to get a real job dawgshits."

So, how come you only believe half (or is it 3/4) of the story ? You said you don't believe the missile CT @ Pentagon, but you believe (what you believe) about the WTC.
what about shawshank, pa, flight 93 where do you stand on that.... ? a hoax too ?

 

[eots]

you would say that...it's false, but it's the best you can do..

"you are a joke...even you know that..this is the reason you can not answer direct questions and have to try and pretend you already did...time to get a real job dawgshits."

so, how come you only believe half (or is it 3/4) of the story ? You said you don't believe the missile ct @ pentagon, but you believe (what you believe) about the wtc.
what about shawshank, pa, flight 93 where do you stand on that.... ? a hoax too ?

there are question surrounding both the pentagon and shanksville and there appears to be holes in the 9/11 commission story and flight data.. But other than flight data there is little evidence to examine ..they have never released the security footage from the pentagon and it remains classified and there is no footage of the shanksville crash..this is not the case with the towers and wtc 7

 

[member]

"there are question surrounding both the pentagon and shanksville and there appears to be holes in the 9/11 commission story and flight data.. But other than flight data there is little evidence to examine ..they have never released the security footage from the pentagon and it remains classified and there is no footage of the shanksville crash..this is not the case with the towers and wtc 7."

is it that, you're lazy OR in school, you weren't taught to...USE periods or put periods at the end of your....final sentence(s) ? (I did it, again, for you).

- You must have soooooooooMMMmmmmEeeeee beef with the "Government."

- do you live here...? if you think what you think..........how come you "ain't" posting from Canada (unless you are).

- so on all accounts............WTC, Shanksville, Pentagon........as far as you're concerned, the brainwashed, maniacal Terrorists are LESS culpable than..........the people -- WHO in your mind -- were the masterminds behind 9/11: (israel, mossad, cia, senator sam) ?


am i getting a better picture of it now (on how you feel) ?

 

[holston]

http://bizdevisrael.com/uploadImages/systemFiles/The%20US-Israel%20Telecom%20Gateway%20-%20UITG.pdf

Telecommunications Companies in Israel -

Israelis Win Contract To Secure US Borders!

TIES TO ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE

Israelis Win Contract
To Secure US Borders
By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press
10-5-6


On Sept. 21, Michael Chertoff, the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), announced that a consortium headed by the Chicago-based Boeing Company had won a multi-billion dollar contract to install sensors and radar along the U.S. border. The deal, the first part of a multibillion-dollar government plan designed to reduce illegal entry along the Canadian and Mexican borders calls for cameras, sensors and even unmanned planes.

When Chertoff was asked why DHS had chosen the Boeing-led group he declined to comment. The reason for Chertoff's silence, however, is telling: the Boeing team includes an Israeli military subcontractor which will play a key role in "securing" the U.S. border.

Of interest is the fact that Chertoff's Israeli mother played a key role in creating that country in its infancy.

The Boeing team, which will implement the DHS program called the Secure Border Initiative (SBI) along the northern and southern borders of the United States, includes a Merrimack, N.H.-based surveillance technology firm called Kollsman Inc., a wholly-owned subsidiary of Elbit Systems Ltd. of Haifa, Israel.


The Israeli-American team includes Unisys Corp., DRS Technologies Inc., L-3 Communications Holdings Inc., Lucent Technologies Inc., Perot Systems Corp. and the Israeli-owned Kollsman, which makes the thermo-imaging cameras used to monitor Israel's borders.

Kollsman is not the only player on the Boeing team with ties to Israeli military intelligence. As AFP has reported previously, Unisys Corp., chaired by Lawrence A. Weinbach, has integrated Israeli security software into the computer products it sells to the U.S. government and other clients. Software from Check Point Software Technologies of Ramat Gan, Israel, for example, is integrated into Unisys products.


Elbit Systems is directed by a high-level board that is comprised of former Israeli major generals, colonels, ambassadors, and former chiefs of Israel's largest banks and companies. The company's only non-Israeli director on its board of 18 members is Timothy Taylor, the British-born president and CEO of Elbit Systems of America. Taylor speaks to the U.S. media for the Israeli-owned company while the former Israeli fighter pilots and generals run the company from Haifa.

What's more curious is the fact that none of this Israeli "security" has seemed to stem the tide of ILLEGAL immigration into the US one whit.

The article was written in 2006. Is seven years not enough time for it to produce some measurable effects?

Maybe preventing ILLEGAL immigration was not it's purpose from the beginning.

While the Israeli press was quick to report that an Israeli company was part of the SBI border security program, Chertoff failed to mention it. "Elbit System's subsidiary Kollsman announced it would supply technology to identify threats, deter and prevent crossings, and apprehend intruders along U.S. borders," Israeli daily Ha'aretz reported.

Huntleigh U.S.A., another Israeli-owned security company, provided passenger screening at Boston's Logan Airport on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. Huntleigh, which is wholly owned by the Israeli company International Consultants on Targeted Security (ICTS) apparently failed to intercept the Arab terrorists who hijacked the two planes that hit the World Trade Center, according to the government version. Now, the same administration that failed to stop the terror attacks of 9-11 is hiring an Israeli-owned company to help protect the entire U.S. land border.

 

[holston]

Israelis Bugged The US For The NSA - Business Insider


Business Insider


Military & Defense
DID YOU KNOW?: Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA

The newest information regarding the NSA domestic spying scandal raises an important question: If America's tech giants didn't 'participate knowingly' in the dragnet of electronic communication, how does the NSA get all of their data?

One theory: the NSA hired two secretive Israeli companies to wiretap the U.S. telecommunications network.

In April 2012 Wired's James Bamford — author of the book "The Shadow Factory: The NSA from 9/11 to the Eavesdropping on America" — reported that two companies with extensive links to Israel's intelligence service provided hardware and software to wiretap the U.S. telecommunications network for the National Security Agency (NSA).

Aw pshaw.

"Business Insider" is clearly a Neo-Nazi rag and this is just a hit piece trying to generate yet one more CONSPIRACY theory to besmirch the sterling reputation of Jews in the US.

How blatantly "anti-semitic" can you get?

 

[holston]

Jewish Dominance Of America - Facts Are Facts

Did you know an Israeli company does the entire billing for most of America's cell and regular phone systems? The company has total knowledge of who you talk to and for how long - at least.

Did you know an Israeli company created and installed and maintains the absolutely HIGHEST level of secure communications in the Pentagon and White House? Do you think someone might have built in a monitoring system?

Also, do a Google search and try to find and read the Fox News 3-part series by Carl Cameron on Israeli spying in America.

Now ask yourself, if Israelis and US Zionists have the ability to spy on the US, would they use it?

 

[eots]

"there are question surrounding both the pentagon and shanksville and there appears to be holes in the 9/11 commission story and flight data.. But other than flight data there is little evidence to examine ..they have never released the security footage from the pentagon and it remains classified and there is no footage of the shanksville crash..this is not the case with the towers and wtc 7."

is it that, you're lazy OR in school, you weren't taught to...USE periods or put periods at the end of your....final sentence(s) ? (I did it, again, for you).

- You must have soooooooooMMMmmmmEeeeee beef with the "Government."

- do you live here...? if you think what you think..........how come you "ain't" posting from Canada (unless you are).

- so on all accounts............WTC, Shanksville, Pentagon........as far as you're concerned, the brainwashed, maniacal Terrorists are LESS culpable than..........the people -- WHO in your mind -- were the masterminds behind 9/11: (israel, mossad, cia, senator sam) ?


am i getting a better picture of it now (on how you feel) ?

I do not think you are in a position to talk about proper format and your critiques are irrelevant to the discussion..I am not really into speculation as to who is responsible..I am looking at the hard evidence,the physics involved,the fact NIST has failed to definitively find cause for any of the collapses and seemingly went out of there way to avoid a real investigation