The insanity is accelerating.

[Crepitus]

now pull up some meme of wild and crazy lunatics in the democrat party to be fair and balanced

Not my job, Son.

You feel free though.

 

[Crepitus]

Nope I saw another video by one of the posters here.. it was a rear view angle of her SUV.. and you could clearly see her front tires turned towards the guy when she hit the accelerator.. the rear tires did slip.. because she reved the engine hard.

How do you know the officer had no right to tell her to exit the car? they do it all the time. If she had been blocking and impeding officers then they have every right.

I made Babbit into a total victim? I'm not saying she also didnt put herself in a bad situation.... I simply said the threat level was not the same...

And you call me a liar, and I'm not lying about anything. Its just your S.O.P. see it all the time here.

thanks

Nope.

 

[egp320i]

Not my job, Son.

You feel free though.

well you made it your job to pull of a meme of R's though, we understand you only play for one team and you are loyal

you failed though, there are no gays or trans in that meme

 

[Crepitus]

well you made it your job to pull of a meme of R's though, we understand you only play for one team and you are loyal

you failed though, there are no gays or trans in that meme

Son, I've never pretended to be "fair and balanced".

Republicans are shit-stains in the underwear of America and we need a bigger washing machine.

Why would I do anything to help them?

 

[egp320i]

Son, I've never pretended to be "fair and balanced".

Republicans are shit-stains in the underwear of America and we need a bigger washing machine.

Why would I do anything to help them?

lol, the only shit stain is in biden's diapers right now and harris when she drinks too much and shits her panties

R build
D destroy

has always been that way but it's worse now than ever

If a D can't/won't work they just simply steal it

funny fraud and treason.........hello MN, are you under a rock and treason?

D's kicked biden off the ticket in a coup for harris not elected, biden should have been removed from office
he was not able to do the job.......that is treason
the D's propped him up as long as they could

 

[Crepitus]

lol, the only shit stain is in biden's diapers right now and harris when she drinks too much and shits her panties

Sure kid, sure.

 

[1srelluc]

Dems are deranged:



LOL....I rest my case.

 

[Auld Phart]

You right wingers are the only deranged ones around here.

your posts prove different

 

[Hafar1014]

Seems like every day there's something new and terrible.

The US abandoning nearly all international aid, nearly all immigration stopped except for white south Africans, Vance asserts that ICE agents have "absolute immunity" when they shoot people who piss them off, and on that not trump has absolutely proven his followers are dumb enough that he could shoot someone in the middle of the street and not lose any of them.

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Democrats opened the border and invited over 10 million illegals in the country and showered them with free benefits. The goal create voters and replace lost population in democrat states for the next census preventing the lost of 15 to 20 seats in the congress. What they got were tens of thousands of criminals who went right o sanctuary cites and exploded their crime rates. Raping, killing, robbing, molesting Americans and organized gang crime established a foot hold. Democrats went inti cover up and denial mode.

The ICE enforcement of federal law exposes democrat states and cities as the main cause of the crime and economic damage caused by illegals and deportations will stop them from voting and keep them out of the census.
Democrats have then used hate speech to make Federal agents enforcing the law into criminals and citizens into citizen vigilantes organizing training and funding them to attack ICE agents. All to cover up the most destructive policy ever imposed on the American people. This is resulted in violence and death, speeches of self righteous fake outrage at the violence democrats are the cause of.

Not since the civil war has a political party like the Confederates incited this much hate and violence expressed with shameless bold faced lies. Its time to defeat them arrest them when needed and force them to change before they destroy the country

 

[Hafar1014]

Nope.

Agent body cam proves his case and shows she hit him with the car

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Repeating a lie over and over and over again doesn't magically transform it into the truth. Some day you'll figure that out. I just hope I'm there to see it, so I can congratulate you for overcoming the disease that is leftyism.

Citing catchy phrases means nothing when the argument you're attempting to make is not valid, nor supported by either facts or evidence.

It's truly sad that none of you were required to do "compare & contrast" exercises when you were in grade school. Perhaps by now you'd have developed the ability to discern how things are different and how they are alike.

The deaths of Babbitt & Good did not occur for the same reason(s) (or in accordance with the same legal theory.

 

[Hafar1014]

Citing catchy phrases means nothing when the argument you're attempting to make is not valid, nor supported by either facts or evidence.

It's truly sad that none of you were required to do "compare & contrast" exercises when you were in grade school. Perhaps by now you'd have developed the ability to discern how things are different and how they are alike.

The deaths of Babbitt & Good did not occur for the same reason(s) (or in accordance with the same legal theory.

Babbitt did not create an imminent threat was unarmed and nowhere near the cop who shot her. He has hisrtory of negligent gun use and is now indicted for fraud.

Good used a 2 ton car to strike an agent proven by his body cam after a pattern of threats and harassment. She did create an imminent threat to all agents in the area. That meets the standard for use of deadly force. All she had to do was stop.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

her tires were turned towards the officer when she punched the accelerator... she didnt turn the wheel the other way until the officer drew his gun. Too late but there was only a split second. ICE agents have been showing incredible restraint under similar sitiuations through all of this.

These idiot protestors in vehicles trying to ram and block ICE agents..know damn well it is not going to change policy. If policy needs to be changed then Democrats need to get off their ass... stop calling officers NAZIS... stoking violence that can kill their own constituents and do their ******* job.... if they dont like the current laws. Congress people have abandoned the job of legislating and debate for activism.
Their activist rhetoric does nothing constructive. Simple peaceful protests would net the same benefits Democrats want.. or possibly more.

Personally I dont agree with 100% of Trumps immigration policy.. maybe only 80% but I'm sure not going to physicaly oppose officers. Its just stupid.

The ICE agent pulled his weapon BEFORE she began moving forward. The following video shows the vehicle making contact with the agent in slow motion. It appears he was already out of her way when he began shooting so he was not shooting in "self-defense" nor is shooting at a person to prevent them from fleeing allowed, let alone killing them.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/us/ice-shooting-minneapolis-renee-good-cell-phone-invs

This is a previous conversation with member protectionist about the fleeing felon rule. He posted several cases that I had previously been unaware of but the court had this to say in Tennessee v. Garner:

“The suspect's fundamental interest in his own life must be balanced against the government’s interest in effective law enforcement.”

Zone1 - If someone attempts to rob you At knife or gunpoint do you believe you have a right to shoot them in response?

 

[Hafar1014]

The ICE agent pulled his weapon BEFORE she began moving forward. The following video shows the vehicle making contact with the agent in slow motion. It appears he was already out of her way when he began shooting so he was not shooting in "self-defense" nor is shooting at a person to prevent them from fleeing allowed, let alone killing them.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/us/ice-shooting-minneapolis-renee-good-cell-phone-invs

This is a previous conversation with member protectionist about the fleeing felon rule. He posted several cases that I had previously been unaware of but the court had this to say in Tennessee v. Garner:

“The suspect's fundamental interest in his own life must be balanced against the government’s interest in effective law enforcement.”

Zone1 - If someone attempts to rob you At knife or gunpoint do you believe you have a right to shoot them in response?

Drawing his weapon was legal she was threat based on previous behavior.

The ICE agent pulled his weapon BEFORE she began moving forward. The following video shows the vehicle making contact with the agent in slow motion. It appears he was already out of her way when he began shooting so he was not shooting in "self-defense" nor is shooting at a person to prevent them from fleeing allowed, let alone killing them.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/09/us/ice-shooting-minneapolis-renee-good-cell-phone-invs

This is a previous conversation with member protectionist about the fleeing felon rule. He posted several cases that I had previously been unaware of but the court had this to say in Tennessee v. Garner:

“The suspect's fundamental interest in his own life must be balanced against the government’s interest in effective law enforcement.”

Zone1 - If someone attempts to rob you At knife or gunpoint do you believe you have a right to shoot them in response?

Her previous behavior allowed him to draw his weapon and hold at low ready. She refused to leave the car ad accelerated striking him proven by his body cam. That makes her an imminent threat to all agents in the area allowing use of deadly force. All she had to do was stop and cooperate but she was a trained part of a paid group obstruction law enforcement. We have past behavior intent and action.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Babbitt did not create an imminent threat was unarmed and nowhere near the cop who shot her. He has hisrtory of negligent gun use and is now indicted for fraud.

Good used a 2 ton car to strike an agent proven by his body cam after a pattern of threats and harassment. She did create an imminent threat to all agents in the area. That meets the standard for use of deadly force. All she had to do was stop.

Door are locked for a reason. Generally they mean "stay out". Sometimes stupid people think "you can't tell me what to do" so they break out the window in the door so that can continue with their rampage of trying to get their hands on members of the United States Congress who were sheltering in place just beyond the door the mob was attempting to breach.

The officer who shot her wasn't just protecting his own life. He was protecting the lives of everyone behind him as was his sworn duty and all Ashli had to do was not attempt to climb through the window.

It's of note that no one else attempted to climb through that window after Lt. Byrd with a single shot successfully neutralized the threat that Ashli et al posed.

As far as Good, our Constitution/laws don't allow law enforcement agents to shoot & kill people just because they embarrassed, scared or disobeyed them. The valid use of lethal force in self-defense is the same standard across the board, whether the person is a private citizen or law enforcement officer /agent. You know the requirement - a reasonable fear of imminent threat of grievous bodily harm or death to oneself or another.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Drawing his weapon was legal she was threat based on previous behavior.

What previous behavior?

 

[Hafar1014]

Door are locked for a reason. Generally they mean "stay out". Sometimes stupid people think "you can't tell me what to do" so they break out the window in the door so that can continue with their rampage of trying to get their hands on members of the United States Congress who were sheltering in place just beyond the door the mob was attempting to breach.

The officer who shot her wasn't just protecting his own life. He was protecting the lives of everyone behind him as was his sworn duty and all Ashli had to do was not attempt to climb through the window.

It's of note that no one else attempted to climb through that window after Lt. Byrd with a single shot successfully neutralized the threat that Ashli et al posed.

As far as Good, our Constitution/laws don't allow law enforcement agents to shoot & kill people just because they embarrassed, scared or disobeyed them. The valid use of lethal force in self-defense is the same standard across the board, whether the person is a private citizen or law enforcement officer /agent. You know the requirement - a reasonable fear of imminent threat of grievous bodily harm or death to oneself or another.

Climbing through a window does not create an imminent threat which must exists to allow deadly force. A threat must be imminent and she was unarmed nowhere near the cop and not a threat to anyone. This was a negligent discharge of weapon caused by poor gun management.

 

[IM2]

her tires were turned towards the officer when she punched the accelerator... she didnt turn the wheel the other way until the officer drew his gun. Too late but there was only a split second. ICE agents have been showing incredible restraint under similar sitiuations through all of this.

These idiot protestors in vehicles trying to ram and block ICE agents..know damn well it is not going to change policy. If policy needs to be changed then Democrats need to get off their ass... stop calling officers NAZIS... stoking violence that can kill their own constituents and do their ******* job.... if they dont like the current laws. Congress people have abandoned the job of legislating and debate for activism.
Their activist rhetoric does nothing constructive. Simple peaceful protests would net the same benefits Democrats want.. or possibly more.

Personally I dont agree with 100% of Trumps immigration policy.. maybe only 80% but I'm sure not going to physicaly oppose officers. Its just stupid.

You can twist and turn this all you want, but anyone with sense can see that the woman was not trying to run that man over. Nobody was blocking and trying to ram anyone. Realize that ICE had no business being there in the first place. If you want to believe that retarded right wing bullshit propaganda, that's fine, but stop repeating the lies you believe to others as if that crap is true.

 

[IM2]

What previous behavior?

The behavior Trump told him.

 

[Hafar1014]

You can twist and turn this all you want, but anyone with sense can see that the woman was not trying to run that man over. Nobody was blocking and trying to ram anyone. Realize that ICE had no business being there in the first place. If you want to believe that retarded right wing bullshit propaganda, that's fine, but stop repeating the lies you believe to others as if that crap is true.

If she wasnt trying to run hm over she wouldnt have run him over. Duh
She would have not accelerated at all. The agents body cam shows she did strike him with the left fender knocking him to the ground. The bullet hole indicates shot fried from the front. Its found hole and the crack pattern circular