The individuals in the American left wing media need to be charged with high treason and treated accordingly. Start with Tapper

[struth]

It was part of their testimony to Congress. They did not discuss specific cases. Just said that their requests were agreed to sometimes and sometimes not.

So they weren’t always forced? Ok.

Not sure your point. Some times they were, sometimes they weren’t.

 

[martybegan]

I never found any party affiliation for him, so good job.

Fucking hack.

A hack would admit said information on a forum?

Work on matching your insults to the actual situation at hand, poseur.

 

[Marener]

A hack would admit said information on a forum?

Work on matching your insults to the actual situation at hand, poseur.

Okay, sure. Good for you for admitting you were wrong. Sorry I called you a hack.

So we are back to square one. Trump talks a lot about suppressing freedom of speech. So do his MAGA supporters. Your accusation that Dems actually do something about it is baseless.

 

[martybegan]

Okay, sure. Good for you for admitting you were wrong. Sorry I called you a hack.

So we are back to square one. Trump talks a lot about suppressing freedom of speech. So do his MAGA supporters. Your accusation that Dems actually do something about it is baseless.

Tim Walz is on record saying misinformation isn't free speech.

John Kelly complains the first amendment is a roadblock.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ammering_disinformation_out_of_existence.html

 

[Marener]

Tim Walz is on record saying misinformation isn't free speech.

John Kelly complains the first amendment is a roadblock.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ammering_disinformation_out_of_existence.html

Sometimes misinformation isn’t free speech. We saw it on other cases if you intentionally mislead someone regarding voting that can be criminal.

 

[martybegan]

Sometimes misinformation isn’t free speech. We saw it on other cases if you intentionally mislead someone regarding voting that can be criminal.

Didn't you guys get pissed off over Florida going after lying abortion ads?

Misinformation is a weasel term for "opinions I don't like, but I can't call a lie"

 

[Marener]

Didn't you guys get pissed off over Florida going after lying abortion ads?

Misinformation is a weasel term for "opinions I don't like, but I can't call a lie"

It’s just your opinion that the ads in Florida were lying. But thanks for reminding us of another instances where free speech is under attack by the right wing.

It’s not an opinion as to what day the election is on or whether you can vote by phone. Those are clear lies intended to deprive an individual of their constitutional rights.

 

[martybegan]

It’s just your opinion that the ads in Florida were lying. But thanks for reminding us of another instances where free speech is under attack by the right wing.

It’s not an opinion as to what day the election is on or whether you can vote by phone. Those are clear lies intended to deprive an individual of their constitutional rights.

No, it's pretty much reality. The concern was women would not seek medical attention thinking they couldn't get it.

It's also a lie to say a woman can have a penis.

 

[Blisterfinger]

34 felony convictions says different.

34 fake convictions for the gullible.

 

[Blisterfinger]

So you think the first amendment protects trespassing?

Trespassing in the people's house does not warrant being thrown in the gulag indefinitely. Not in my America anyway

 

[Marener]

No, it's pretty much reality. The concern was women would not seek medical attention thinking they couldn't get it.

It's also a lie to say a woman can have a penis.

If they’re in the situation described by the ad, they’re already seeking media attention. Your concern is phony. The real concern is that it might convince people to vote for the ballot measure that Republicans don’t like, which is why the phony threat came from DeSantis’s office and not from the department of health.

There remains a lot of ambiguity in the law about what situations constitute a threat to their health. Cancer is not specified and may not be a part of the exceptions outlined.

Given the ambiguity of the law, opinions vary. You want the government to be the arbiter of truth now? Crazy.

If someone said COVID was no worse than a common cold, wouldn’t that convince them not to get medical attention because they think they don’t need it? If someone said that hospitals are trying to hurt people who have COVID because they get paid more, wouldn’t that convince them not to seek medical attention?

This might be useful information.

 

[Marener]

Trespassing in the people's house does not warrant being thrown in the gulag indefinitely. Not in my America anyway

Who was thrown in the gulag indefinitely for trespassing?

 

[martybegan]

If they’re in the situation described by the ad, they’re already seeking media attention. Your concern is phony. The real concern is that it might convince people to vote for the ballot measure that Republicans don’t like, which is why the phony threat came from DeSantis’s office and not from the department of health.

There remains a lot of ambiguity in the law about what situations constitute a threat to their health. Cancer is not specified and may not be a part of the exceptions outlined.

Given the ambiguity of the law, opinions vary. You want the government to be the arbiter of truth now? Crazy.

If someone said COVID was no worse than a common cold, wouldn’t that convince them not to get medical attention because they think they don’t need it? If someone said that hospitals are trying to hurt people who have COVID because they get paid more, wouldn’t that convince them not to seek medical attention?

This might be useful information.

Their concern is real.

the Florida Department of Health clarified that ambiguity, it's just abortion zealots that want no bans pretending its ambiguous to create a talking point.

Actually you are the one that wants that, and Dems. They want to gut the source, the 1st amendment, like they have done to the 2nd.

COVID was being compared mostly to the flu, and in the end it turns out be just that, a bad flu.

 

[Marener]

Their concern is real.

the Florida Department of Health clarified that ambiguity, it's just abortion zealots that want no bans pretending its ambiguous to create a talking point.

Actually you are the one that wants that, and Dems. They want to gut the source, the 1st amendment, like they have done to the 2nd.

COVID was being compared mostly to the flu, and in the end it turns out be just that, a bad flu.

The Florida Department of Health has no legal authority to interpret the law.

Since the threats came from the general counsel for Ron DeSantis, it sure looks like the concern is political, not health.

There’s posters on here who call COVID just a common cold. It was an order of magnitude worse than a flu. But you still didn’t answer if it’s criminal to spread lies about COVID that prevent people from seeking medical attention? You believe that for abortion apparently.

 

[martybegan]

The Florida Department of Health has no legal authority to interpret the law.

Since the threats came from the general counsel for Ron DeSantis, it sure looks like the concern is political, not health.

There’s posters on here who call COVID just a common cold. It was an order of magnitude worse than a flu. But you still didn’t answer if it’s criminal to spread lies about COVID that prevent people from seeking medical attention? You believe that for abortion apparently.

They are the ones enabled to enforce the regulations in Florida in this case.

The letter was from the Florida Department of Health.

OOOOOOHHH POSTERS!!!!!!!

Compared to a mild flu maybe, but compared to a bad one? It's about the same.

Considering how untruthful the supporters of the jab have been, why not go after them?

Masks are for health care workers only, to everyone must wear masks to when the elite go out, they aren't needed.
The jab protects you 100% to the jab protects others to the jab mitigates for you and may not protect others.
2 weeks to stop the spread, to 2 months, to we want to remote work and school forever, and stop going to church or else.
Plus that moron in the reaper costume scaring people out in the open at the beach.

 

[MisterBeale]

Another example why tiktok has been attacked by the democrats and rinos.

As of now they can't stop individuals doing what the media is supposed to be doing

"The individuals in the American left wing media need to be charged with high treason and treated accordingly."​

It is not a crime to be stoopid, and then spread bullshit from that stoopidity.

You would have to prove that Tapper does not believe what he is saying, and knowingly spreading lies.

Most folks like him, really do still believe Trump is an agent of Russia. . . even now.

Just like Trump really does believe that he won the 2020 election.

I have seen no proof that Tapper knew what he was saying was B.S. or that he does now.

Just as I have seen no proof that Trump knew what he was saying was B.S.

Though both sides repeat the old canard, "he was told he was wrong, so he had to know." What garbage.

Don't make yourself an enemy of America by attacking the FIRST AMENDMENT.

 

[MisterBeale]

The Florida Department of Health has no legal authority to interpret the law.

Since the threats came from the general counsel for Ron DeSantis, it sure looks like the concern is political, not health.

There’s posters on here who call COVID just a common cold. It was an order of magnitude worse than a flu. But you still didn’t answer if it’s criminal to spread lies about COVID that prevent people from seeking medical attention? You believe that for abortion apparently.

It is a fact, that government and folks on the left censored opinions. . . even from highly respected medical people, around the COVID issue.


Folks on the left and right are trying to destroy the first amendment in their zealotry.

 

[martybegan]

"The individuals in the American left wing media need to be charged with high treason and treated accordingly."​

It is not a crime to be stoopid, and then spread bullshit from that stoopidity.

You would have to prove that Tapper does not believe what he is saying, and knowingly spreading lies.

Most folks like him, really do still believe Trump is an agent of Russia. . . even now.

Just like Trump really does believe that he won the 2020 election.

I have seen no proof that Tapper knew what he was saying was B.S. or that he does now.

Just as I have seen no proof that Trump knew what he was saying was B.S.

Though both sides repeat the old canard, "he was told he was wrong, so he had to know." What garbage.

Don't make yourself an enemy of America by attacking the FIRST AMENDMENT.

Actually Tapper could know it's bullshit, and unless some form of loss/ill gotten gain was incurred, or it was directed at a specific person or organization, the 1st amendment protects that as well.

It's why we can punish people for stolen valor if and only if they receive some form of benefit from it.

 

[martybegan]

It is a fact, that government and folks on the left censored opinions. . . even from highly respected medical people, around the COVID issue.


Folks on the left and right are trying to destroy the first amendment in their zealotry.

More so the left, but there has been some overreach on the right, as we see in this thread.

 

[Marener]

They are the ones enabled to enforce the regulations in Florida in this case.

The letter was from the Florida Department of Health.

OOOOOOHHH POSTERS!!!!!!!

Compared to a mild flu maybe, but compared to a bad one? It's about the same.

Considering how untruthful the supporters of the jab have been, why not go after them?

Masks are for health care workers only, to everyone must wear masks to when the elite go out, they aren't needed.
The jab protects you 100% to the jab protects others to the jab mitigates for you and may not protect others.
2 weeks to stop the spread, to 2 months, to we want to remote work and school forever, and stop going to church or else.
Plus that moron in the reaper costume scaring people out in the open at the beach.

The AG prosecutes criminal law, not the department of health. And the letter came direct from the meatball’s office. It wasn’t the DoH’s idea.

Florida official who quit after letter to TV stations over abortion ad blames DeSantis’ office

John Wilson, who has resigned as the Florida Department of Health’s general counsel, said in an affidavit that DeSantis’ office wrote the cease-and-desist letters and told him to “send them under my name.”

www.msnbc.com

None of your examples would result in harm for anyone, unlike lying about COVID being no big deal or lying about hospitals trying to kill anyone.

Those lies can and did result in harm to people. Were those lies criminally prosecutable? How come you are so worried about someone not seeking abortion and not worried about COVID?