The individuals in the American left wing media need to be charged with high treason and treated accordingly. Start with Tapper

[MisterBeale]

Show me where Zuckerberg said they were threatened with some gibberish about monopoly status.

What other sorts of carrot/stick approach would you think he is referring to when he said the government pressured them.

Just curious as to what "pressure," means. Most sane folks know it involved threats of some sort.

But you are right, Zuck never explicitly told us what form the "government pressures," took. Only that they were there.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/zuckerberg-says-biden-administration-pressured-meta-censor-covid-19-content-2024-08-27/

 

[MisterBeale]

So if people are never controlled by what they read online, how can anyone sue for damages of defamation?

Defamation is a completely separate category, and you know that.

 

[MisterBeale]

Ma Ball was violating the Sherman Anti Trust Act

Yes. . . but the Sherman Anti-Trust Act was supposed to be used in the public interest.

That is not why they MA Bell was taken to court.

Institutional investors wanted to invest in new technologies and make more money. The scum that run the government and revolving door regulatory agencies haven't given a damn about the American people, since, oh, around the time the Deep State took over by ending the Kennedys lives.

 

[Marener]

But was it misinformation? Much of what was being said was good information that was being suppressed by politics.

Absolutely it was misinformation.

 

[struth]

Yes. . . but the Sherman Anti-Trust Act was supposed to be used in the public interest.

That is not why they MA Bell was taken to court.

Institutional investors wanted to invest in new technologies and make more money. The scum that run the government and revolving door regulatory agencies haven't given a damn about the American people, since, oh, around the time the Deep State took over by ending the Kennedys lives.

New technology doesn’t help the public?

 

[Blisterfinger]

Absolutely it was misinformation.

Kids in face masks? Face masks in general. You were allowed to say nothing negative about that, that turned out to be a lie. Just a small example for you. There are many other examples of information that was suppressed for political reasons. Very dishonest.

 

[Kondor3]

Yeah, ask FOX...3/4 of a billion dollars.

Alex Jones may have an opinion too.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Not to worry... Faux News has admitted in court that they're InfoTainers... not Journalists... simpletons are amused easily...

 

[Marener]

What other sorts of carrot/stick approach would you think he is referring to when he said the government pressured them.

Just curious as to what "pressure," means. Most sane folks know it involved threats of some sort.

But you are right, Zuck never explicitly told us what form the "government pressures," took. Only that they were there.

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https://www.reuters.com/technology/zuckerberg-says-biden-administration-pressured-meta-censor-covid-19-content-2024-08-27/

Pressure is definitely different than threats. Most sane people know this.

You’re just fabricating threats where none exist.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Numerous times.

And the times they did comply?

 

[Arlette]

Another example why tiktok has been attacked by the democrats and rinos.

As of now they can't stop individuals doing what the media is supposed to be doing

 

[Marener]

Kids in face masks? Face masks in general. You were allowed to say nothing negative about that, that turned out to be a lie. Just a small example for you. There are many other examples of information that was suppressed for political reasons. Very dishonest.

N95s seemed to work pretty well for everyone that uses them.

If someone said the vaccine was completely ineffective, that would be misinformation that could lead them to not get the vaccine and suffer fatal consequences. We know they were effective at dramatically reducing the chance of dying from COVID.

 

[Marener]

Defamation is a completely separate category, and you know that.

Not really. It’s rooted in the same fundamental principle that people spreading false information about you can harm you. The reason it would harm you is that others may believe that information and change their behavior.

But wait! People are solely responsible for their own behavior and you don’t think that information they see can be considered to be responsible for their choices.

So how does defamation work then? How could anyone suffer harm from defamation?

 

[Rawley]

Show me where Zuckerberg said they were threatened with some gibberish about monopoly status.

The federal government is stepping up its war on Facebook: President Joe Biden has accused Mark Zuckerberg's social media platform of failing to purge anti-vaccine content, thus contributing to vaccine hesitancy and "killing people," said the president.

Now the White House is considering methods of tinkering with Section 230, the federal statute that immunizes internet platforms from legal liability, in order to punish Facebook for failing to do everything the government wants.

"We're reviewing that, and certainly they should be held accountable," said Kate Bedingfield, White House communications director, in response to a question about Section 230 posed by Morning Joe's Mika Brzezinski.

Biden Wants To Punish Facebook for the Government's Own Vaccine Failures

The federal government is stepping up its war on Facebook: President Joe Biden has accused Mark Zuckerberg's social media platform of failing to purge

reason.com

 

[MisterBeale]

Absolutely it was misinformation.

Who cares? It is every citizens right to post and right whatever the hell they want.

Who determines what is "misinformation," and what is not? Oh yeah, Big Brother.

. . . and it has been showed, repeatedly, that Big Brother got it completely wrong, all the damn time.

Pressure is definitely different than threats. Most sane people know this.

You’re just fabricating threats where none exist.

Nope. That isn't what Zuck said though.

". .. Zuckerberg elsewhere in the interview said he is “very pro-freedom of speech” and that Facebook was aimed at allowing people to “express as much as possible” while describing government requests to censor content as “obviously bad” and that, ultimately, “it’s Facebook’s call” on how to handle such requests.

Zuckerberg also said that some of the censorship requests were “punitive or vengeful,” as in “I want you to do this thing, and if you don’t, then I’m going to make your life difficult in a lot of ways.”

Establishment Asked to Censor Covid Posts That Ended Up Being True | Principia Scientific Intl.

U.S. officials pressured Facebook and Instagram to censor posts about Covid Zuckerberg says

principia-scientific.com

Mark Zuckerberg: Future of AI at Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp | Lex Fridman Podcast #383​

Jun 8, 2023
1:18:42 - Censorship

 

[Zincwarrior]

If you want to execute the Press, you are on the side of Evil.

 

[Blisterfinger]

N95s seemed to work pretty well for everyone that uses them.

If someone said the vaccine was completely ineffective, that would be misinformation that could lead them to not get the vaccine and suffer fatal consequences. We know they were effective at dramatically reducing the chance of dying from COVID.

I'm not going to walk around in a fucking n95. I've lived all my life without wearing a face mask and I'm not going to start now. I think people look stupid in face masks . Anyone who said anything bad about face masks on social media was shut down. The government had something to do with that

 

[Blisterfinger]

Absolutely it was misinformation.

Absolutely not

 

[MisterBeale]

Not really. It’s rooted in the same fundamental principle that people spreading false information about you can harm you. The reason it would harm you is that others may believe that information and change their behavior.

But wait! People are solely responsible for their own behavior and you don’t think that information they see can be considered to be responsible for their choices.

So how does defamation work then? How could anyone suffer harm from defamation?

Defamation are attacks against a person's reputation.

If anyone was "defamed," it is legitimate scientists and medical professionals with years of experience, by both the government, MSM, and big tech.



What we are talking about are folks opinions and different scientists and medical folks expressions and statements about facts and opinions on medical issues, which had not been hashed out yet.

Are you really, REALLY so desperate to defend your world view, and stop with the cognitive dissonance, that you just have to keep committing logical fallacies?

Apples and oranges - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

False equivalence - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Defamation is not the same thing as government/corporate collusion to control narratives and discussions.

Censorship and Suppression of Covid-19 Heterodoxy: Tactics and Counter-Tactics​

Censorship and Suppression of Covid-19 Heterodoxy: Tactics and Counter-Tactics - Minerva

The emergence of COVID-19 has led to numerous controversies over COVID-related knowledge and policy. To counter the perceived threat from doctors and scientists who challenge the official position of governmental and intergovernmental health authorities, some supporters of this orthodoxy have...

link.springer.com

Jack Dorsey, the CIA and Twitter Censorship in the Age of Covid-19

Jack Dorsey's techno-mining of African potential and the increasing use of Twitter as a surveillance tool for the corporatocracy have generated the opportunity for Dorsey to play an increasingly pivotal role in the roll-out of the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset.

unlimitedhangout.com

12 Experts Questioning the Coronavirus Panic

Here is our list of twelve medical experts whose opinions on the Coronavirus outbreak contradict the official narratives of the MSM, and the memes so prevalent on social media.

off-guardian.org

This one got a take down here;


Archived here;

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web.archive.org

But I found a mirror here;

Covid-19 Fatality Rate Equivalent to Seasonal Flu: Dr. Ioannidis Latest Serology Study​

This was from the original, which had been shadow banned, and was not allowed on twitter.





Please stop.

 

[Marener]

I'm not going to walk around in a fucking n95. I've lived all my life without wearing a face mask and I'm not going to start now. I think people look stupid in face masks . Anyone who said anything bad about face masks on social media was shut down. The government had something to do with that

fine. Don’t walk around with an N95. But don’t pretend like it was pointless.

It really shouldn’t surprise you that a lot of social media platforms didn’t want people like you posting garbage that could get people hurt. It doesn’t take government authoritarianism, just common sense.

 

[Blisterfinger]

N95s seemed to work pretty well for everyone that uses them.

If someone said the vaccine was completely ineffective, that would be misinformation that could lead them to not get the vaccine and suffer fatal consequences. We know they were effective at dramatically reducing the chance of dying from COVID.

I don't think people were saying that very much realistically. If someone did I would have to leave it up to the general public to believe or not, or check with your doctor. Censorship is not the answer as much as Democrats think it is.