I am not up to date on Afrikanner history----when did the Boers start claiming property for farms
and by what means did it come to be a private possession?
The historical reality of land ownership in South Africa amid Trump’s criticisms
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and by what means did it come to be a private possession?
1600's
schmidlap
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They're blatant enough that you should be able to spot them all by yourself.
schmidlap
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Given his extensive experience, Trump should be able to lie better than this.
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton:
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So, you got nothing, per usual.
I'm not challenging the truth of his statements.
Your insistance on playing dumb, is a good form of evasion.
But, that you feel a need for evasion, is an admission that you have lost the debate.
THe reality that we both know, is that South Africa is a racist and oppressive place for whites, at BEST trending towards genocide.
That the left opposes refugee status for these whites, is just further proof, if any was needed at this late date, that the left is racist against whites.
berg80
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Gosh, your answer so perfectly fits the mold of an ignorant bigot, otherwise known as a trump supporter, the only thing to add is the facts.
Baseless claims about South Africa ‘genocide,’ land seizure
President Donald Trump allowed the U.S. resettlement of white Afrikaners from South Africa and said they are targets of genocide. Experts say his rhetoric about genocide is misleading.
www.politifact.com
Which you will ignore.
Tommy Tainant
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This is all very good. But President Trump used examples of atrocities in the Congo. What are South Africa doing about that outrage ?Given the latest political move by this administration to make Afrikaners refugees, it is time to look at the policy that has been used to make claims about the oppression of Afrikaners. Afrikaners aren't being oppressed in South Africa. This has been a long-standing untruth told by Afrikaners or Africaans orgnizations trying to re-establish white minority rule, as well as American white supremacists. But here is an article that describes the rationale for land confiscation.
The historical reality of land ownership in South Africa amid Trump’s criticisms
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There's an escalating dispute between President Trump and South Africa over a new land policy that he says discriminates against the country's white minority. On Truth Social yesterday, the president criticized what he called the terrible treatment of longtime farmers in the country and offered them a rapid pathway to U.S. citizenship.
And in February, Mr. Trump signed an executive order halting almost all foreign aid to South Africa because of what it called racially discriminatory property confiscation. Ali Rogin spoke earlier with John Eligon. He's the Johannesburg bureau chief for the New York Times.
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John, thank you so much for being with us. First of all, tell us about this new land policy.
John Eligon, The New York Times:
So essentially what the government has done is they've passed a law that allows the government to take land without providing compensation to the people they take it from.
Basically, the justification that the South African government gives for this is that we know through the long history of apartheid in South Africa that black people were essentially robbed of their land. So, they are really looking at ways to sort of make right some of the inequalities that happen during apartheid.
Daniel Magaziner, Professor, Yale University:
Historically, in fact, farmers have been quite oppressed in South Africa, but those are black farmers. Those are the people whose land was alienated over centuries of colonization and who in many cases worked as really poorly remunerated menial laborers in horrific conditions on white owned farms.
And so in many ways, what he's doing is he is implicitly, not explicitly, but implicitly downplaying the reality of South African history.
The historical reality of land ownership in South Africa amid Trump’s criticisms
There’s an escalating dispute between President Trump and South Africa over a new land policy that he says discriminates against the country’s white minority. On Truth Social Friday, Trump criticized what he called the “terrible” treatment of farmers and offered them a “rapid pathway” to U.S...www.pbs.org
Nothing of course.
Gosh, your answer so perfectly fits the mold of an ignorant bigot, otherwise known as a trump supporter, the only thing to add is the facts.
Baseless claims about South Africa ‘genocide,’ land seizure
President Donald Trump allowed the U.S. resettlement of white Afrikaners from South Africa and said they are targets of genocide. Experts say his rhetoric about genocide is misleading.
Which you will ignore.
You call me a bigot, as though your words mean anything to me....
odd.
berg80
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Did you think I'd be surprised that the truth means nothing to you? After all, you're a trumple.
My point was simple. You have to actually make a real point. Calling me a name is just you spewing shit talk.
In the real world, the whties of south africa are under severe racist oppression.
You've seen the tape of the South African political leaders singing his KILL THE FARMER song? To a massive crowd?
If that was a white supremist in this country, singing about killing blacks, and had a crowd of thousands singing along, you would be... beyond hysterical with rage.
But you see it directed at whites and you are just like,
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South Africans have plenty of problems in their country, I don't think they have time t be concerned about the Congo. South Africa would have been just fine if not fr Cecil Rhodes. Quite frankly, after what whites have done in Africa, I find the disingenuous outrage rather obnoxious.
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IMO---the worst thing that happened to the black population of Africa happened
long long ago----when ARABS---that means the people indigenous to arabia---the
original arabic speaking nomaidic people, decided to use them as Merchandise ---ie the arab slave
trade. The slave trade rendered them wealthy and strong enough to raise armies and take over
the Levant and move on to Iran and South east Asia and impose their rule and culture. Slave trade supported Arab imperialism long before OIL
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I am aware that Trump lackey become hysterical when any of his appointees criticize their Lardass Messiah.
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