The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator

[struth]

And struth in places like Wisconsin, the reporting backlog is exactly as I've described. Says who? Says Wisconsin election officials.


"We are not finding ballots," Julietta Henry, director of elections for Milwaukee County, told PolitiFact. "Ballots are being counted."

Democratic nominee Joe Biden passed Trump in Wisconsin about 3:30 a.m. on Nov. 4 because the City of Milwaukee reported its 170,000 absentee votes all at the same time. The votes were reported together because Milwaukee and 38 other communities used a central count location. Other communities counted absentee ballots at the polling places, and reported them earlier along with their in-person vote totals."

Fact check: That spike in the Wisconsin vote tally was expected and legitimate, not fraud

An overnight spike in the Wisconsin vote tally drew baseless claims of fraud, That's simply when Milwaukee votes were counted

www.usatoday.com

But you HAVE to be a victim, don't you, champ? It HAS to be a conspiracy, even when your silly story collapses under an even casual review of the evidence.

And your ilk are laughed out of court with a record of PERFECT failure.

To a rational person, that would be a hint and half. But to you, your failures become part of your conspiracy!

What does that have to do with anything l?

 

[Skylar]

What does that have to do with anything l?

So sorry. I got you and Scruffy mixed up. These are posts for a completely different thread.

 

[SeaMajor7]

This is a gift article, so all of you can read it. By David Frum, ex-Bush speechwriter, and the one who came up with Bush's 'Axis of Evil'.

The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator​

Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.
By David Frum

When a madman hammered nearly to death the husband of then–House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump jeered and mocked. One of Trump’s sons and other close Trump supporters avidly promoted false claims that Paul Pelosi had somehow brought the onslaught upon himself through a sexual misadventure.

After authorities apprehended a right-wing-extremist plot to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Trump belittled the threat at a rally. He disparaged Whitmer as a political enemy. His supporters chanted “Lock her up.” Trump laughed and replied, “Lock them all up.”

Fascism feasts on violence. In the years since his own supporters attacked the Capitol to overturn the 2020 election—many of them threatening harm to Speaker Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence—Trump has championed the invaders, would-be kidnappers, and would-be murderers as martyrs and hostages. He has vowed to pardon them if returned to office. His own staffers have testified to the glee with which Trump watched the mayhem on television.

Now the bloodshed that Trump has done so much to incite against others has touched him as well. The attempted murder of Trump—and the killing of a person nearby—is a horror and an outrage. More will be learned about the man who committed this appalling act, and who was killed by the Secret Service. Whatever his mania or motive, the only important thing about him is the law-enforcement mistake that allowed him to bring a deadly weapon so close to a campaign event and gain a sight line of the presidential candidate. His name should otherwise be erased and forgotten.

It is sadly incorrect to say, as so many have, that political violence “has no place” in American society. Assassinations, lynchings, riots, and pogroms have stained every page of American political history. That has remained true to the present day. In 2016, and even more in 2020, Trump supporters brought weapons to intimidate opponents and vote-counters. Trump and his supporters envision a new place for violence as their defining political message in the 2024 election.

Fascist movements are secular religions. Like all religions, they offer martyrs as their proof of truth. The Mussolini movement in Italy built imposing monuments to its fallen comrades. The Trump movement now improves on that: The leader himself will be the martyr in chief, his own blood the basis for his bid for power and vengeance.


More truth at the LINK

This CRAP and the ASSHOLE OP should be banished to the RUBBER ROOM!!!!

 

[Skylar]

You live in a fantasy irs not an independent agency

Trump loves to claim that the DOJ charges are at Biden's order. But there's nothing to back this up. Literally nothing.

With evidence of Trump's crimes being extensive and overlapping and thoroughly justifying the charges.. Witnesses affirming Trump tried to get them to lie to authorities, recording of Trump admitting the that documents he was showing off were secret and that while he could have declassified them when he was president, he couldn't now. Pictures, texts, eye witness testimony.

And nothing to back the claim that Joe ordered any charges against anyone. Or got directly involved in any case. Including his own son's.

The fantasy is Trump's....and any supporter that apes his nonsense.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Trump loves to claim that the DOJ charges are at Biden's order. But there's nothing to back this up. Literally nothing.

With evidence of Trump's crimes being extensive and overlapping and thoroughly justifying the charges.. Witnesses affirming Trump tried to get them to lie to authorities, recording of Trump admitting the that documents he was showing off were secret and that while he could have declassified them when he was president, he couldn't now. Pictures, texts, eye witness testimony.

And nothing to back the claim that Joe ordered any charges against anyone. Or got directly involved in any case. Including his own son's.

The fantasy is Trump's....and any supporter that apes his nonsense.

You offer NOTHING but The Narrative and your childish PROJECTION and FEEEEEEEELINGS, GTFOH!!!!

 

[struth]

Trump loves to claim that the DOJ charges are at Biden's order. But there's nothing to back this up. Literally nothing.

With evidence of Trump's crimes being extensive and overlapping and thoroughly justifying the charges.. Witnesses affirming Trump tried to get them to lie to authorities, recording of Trump admitting the that documents he was showing off were secret and that while he could have declassified them when he was president, he couldn't now. Pictures, texts, eye witness testimony.

And nothing to back the claim that Joe ordered any charges against anyone. Or got directly involved in any case. Including his own son's.

The fantasy is Trump's....and any supporter that apes his nonsense.

What evidence?

 

[Skylar]

What evidence?

Take a look at the indictment. It lays out the evidence against Trump. Even Bill Barr admits that its compelling.

Trump indictment is ‘very, very damning,’ his former attorney general says​

“If even half of it is true, then he’s toast,” Barr told “Fox News Sunday.” “It’s a very detailed indictment, and it’s very, very damning. And this idea of presenting Trump as a victim here, a victim of a witch hunt, is ridiculous.”

Trump indictment is 'very, very damning,' his former attorney general says

Donald Trump's former Attorney General Bill Barr said Trump is "toast" after a 37-count criminal indictment against him was unsealed Friday.

www.cnbc.com

Now your turn. Please present the evidence that Biden ordered any charges against Trump....State or Federal. Because without it, Trump's claims that Biden ordered the prosecutions as election interference is just fantasy nonsense, backed by nothing.

 

[struth]

Take a look at the indictment. It lays out the evidence against Trump. Even Bill Barr admits that its compelling.

Trump indictment is ‘very, very damning,’ his former attorney general says​

“If even half of it is true, then he’s toast,” Barr told “Fox News Sunday.” “It’s a very detailed indictment, and it’s very, very damning. And this idea of presenting Trump as a victim here, a victim of a witch hunt, is ridiculous.”

Trump indictment is 'very, very damning,' his former attorney general says

Donald Trump's former Attorney General Bill Barr said Trump is "toast" after a 37-count criminal indictment against him was unsealed Friday.

www.cnbc.com

Now your turn. Please present the evidence that Biden ordered any charges against Trump....State or Federal. Because without it, Trump's claims that Biden ordered the prosecutions as election interference is just fantasy nonsense, backed by nothing.

An indictment isn’t evidence

 

[Skylar]

You offer NOTHING but The Narrative and your childish PROJECTION and FEEEEEEEELINGS, GTFOH!!!!

Laughing.....or, I've actually read the indictments against Trump and the evidence laid out in them. The pictures, the text messages, the transcripts of the recordings where Trump admits that the documents he's showing off are secret, even Trump's own lawyer admitting that Trump tries to persuade him to lie to authorities.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to pierce attorney-client privilege? That's how serious the evidence against Trump is.

But you keep babbling about 'feelings'. I'll stick with the indictment.

 

[Skylar]

An indictment isn’t evidence

The pictures are. The text messages are. The records are. The transcripts are. The witness testimony is. And they're all laid out in the indictment.

Demonstrating elegantly that the evidence of crimes is what motivated the charges.. Not Biden. As affirmed by William Barr, who says that the indictment is very, very damning.

And can I take it from your absolute failure to present any evidence that Biden ordered any charges against Trump or anyone else......that you've got nothing to back Trump's fantasy about Biden being behind the charges, or his 'election interference' nonsense?

 

[Lisa558]

This is a gift article, so all of you can read it. By David Frum, ex-Bush speechwriter, and the one who came up with Bush's 'Axis of Evil'.

The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator​

Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.
By David Frum

When a madman hammered nearly to death the husband of then–House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump jeered and mocked. One of Trump’s sons and other close Trump supporters avidly promoted false claims that Paul Pelosi had somehow brought the onslaught upon himself through a sexual misadventure.

After authorities apprehended a right-wing-extremist plot to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Trump belittled the threat at a rally. He disparaged Whitmer as a political enemy. His supporters chanted “Lock her up.” Trump laughed and replied, “Lock them all up.”

Fascism feasts on violence. In the years since his own supporters attacked the Capitol to overturn the 2020 election—many of them threatening harm to Speaker Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence—Trump has championed the invaders, would-be kidnappers, and would-be murderers as martyrs and hostages. He has vowed to pardon them if returned to office. His own staffers have testified to the glee with which Trump watched the mayhem on television.

Now the bloodshed that Trump has done so much to incite against others has touched him as well. The attempted murder of Trump—and the killing of a person nearby—is a horror and an outrage. More will be learned about the man who committed this appalling act, and who was killed by the Secret Service. Whatever his mania or motive, the only important thing about him is the law-enforcement mistake that allowed him to bring a deadly weapon so close to a campaign event and gain a sight line of the presidential candidate. His name should otherwise be erased and forgotten.

It is sadly incorrect to say, as so many have, that political violence “has no place” in American society. Assassinations, lynchings, riots, and pogroms have stained every page of American political history. That has remained true to the present day. In 2016, and even more in 2020, Trump supporters brought weapons to intimidate opponents and vote-counters. Trump and his supporters envision a new place for violence as their defining political message in the 2024 election.

Fascist movements are secular religions. Like all religions, they offer martyrs as their proof of truth. The Mussolini movement in Italy built imposing monuments to its fallen comrades. The Trump movement now improves on that: The leader himself will be the martyr in chief, his own blood the basis for his bid for power and vengeance.


More truth at the LINK

You hateful leftists never learn, do you? The lies about “dictator” is what drove a deranged man to attempt to murder Trump, and now you’re back to spreading the lies.

 

[Lisa558]

You're delusional.

You’re the one who started a thread to spread the same VICIOUS LIE that led to the attempted murder of an innocent man.

 

[Skylar]

You hateful leftists never learn, do you? The lies about “dictator” is what drove a deranged man to attempt to murder Trump, and now you’re back to spreading the lies.

Really? Where did the 'deranged man' say this?

Can you quote the conservative republcan Thomas Matthew Crook? Or are you just quoting yourself?

 

[struth]

The pictures are. The text messages are. The records are. The transcripts are. The witness testimony is. And they're all laid out in the indictment.

Demonstrating elegantly that the evidence of crimes is what motivated the charges.. Not Biden. As affirmed by William Barr, who says that the indictment is very, very damning.

And can I take it from your absolute failure to present any evidence that Biden ordered any charges against Trump or anyone else......that you've got nothing to back Trump's fantasy about Biden being behind the charges, or his 'election interference' nonsense?

What text? What witnesses?

Xiden runs the he DOJ. Of course he has everything to do with the DOJ charges

 

[Skylar]

What text? What witnesses?

Xiden runs the he DOJ. Of course he has everything to do with the DOJ charges

Look at the indictment. You're literally making an argument from ignorance, insisting that if you refuse to look at any of the evidence laid out in the indictment, that there is no evidence.

Show us the evidence that Biden ordered any charges against Trump or anyone else.

You simply saying it must be so is meaningless. Show me. Don't tell me.

 

[struth]

Look at the indictment. You're literally making an argument from ignorance, insisting that if you refuse to look at any of the evidence laid out in the indictment, that there is no evidence.

Show us the evidence that Biden ordered any charges against Trump or anyone else.

You simply saying it must be so is meaningless. Show me. Don't tell me.

The indictment isn’t evidence

 

[Skylar]

The indictment isn’t evidence

The indictment contains the witnesses, the transcripts, the text messages, many of the photos. And demonstrates elegantly that its the evidence in possession by the DOJ that motivated the charges.

Not Biden.

Now, you try. Show us the evidence that Biden ordered any charges against Trump.

Smiling......you can save us both time by just admitting you've got jackshit.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Laughing.....or, I've actually read the indictments against Trump and the evidence laid out in them. The pictures, the text messages, the transcripts of the recordings where Trump admits that the documents he's showing off are secret, even Trump's own lawyer admitting that Trump tries to persuade him to lie to authorities.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to pierce attorney-client privilege? That's how serious the evidence against Trump is.

But you keep babbling about 'feelings'. I'll stick with the indictment.

Fuck YOU and your Stalinist "indictments", kiddo.

 

[struth]

The indictment contains the witnesses, the transcripts, the text messages, many of the photos. And demonstrates elegantly that its the evidence in possession by the DOJ that motivated the charges.

Not Biden.

Now, you try. Show us the evidence that Biden ordered any charges against Trump.

Smiling......you can save us both time by just admitting you've got jackshit.

The indictment is just an accusation not evidence

An accusation by the xiden admin

 

[Lisa558]

Really? Where did the 'deranged man' say this?

Can you quote the conservative republcan Thomas Matthew Crook? Or are you just quoting yourself?

Someone who falls for the media lies about Trump, and acts on Biden’s instructions to put Trump in the bulls-eye, is a very sick person.