The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator

[OKTexas]

And where is your link confirming that this is Thomas Matthew Crook? Or are you joining the "Alex Jones said it, so it has to be true" school of internet research?

See post 100.

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[Skylar]

I didn't post it originally, I copied it from another thread. And where are you getting your info?

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You quoted and promoted Modern Warfare with Alex Jones, attributing a clip from Arizona State University in 2020 as being Thomas Matthew Crook.

That's a pretty egregious failure to do even the tiniest bit of your own research.

And I'm getting my information from the Tempe AZCentral article from February 6th 2020.

Which is a WAY better source than Alex Jones.

I can teach you how to do a reverse image search of a screenshot from the video to find the same article if you're interested. Though given your record on this topic, actual research doesn't seem to be your jam.

 

[Skylar]

See post 100.

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So you just mechanically aped Alex Jones and didn't fact check anything.

I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

 

[OKTexas]

You quoted and promoted Modern Warfare with Alex Jones, attributing a clip from Arizona State University in 2020 as being Thomas Matthew Crook.

That's a pretty egregious failure to do even the tiniest bit of your own research.

And I'm getting my information from the Tempe AZCentral article from February 6th 2020.

Which is a WAY better source than Alex Jones.

I can teach you how to do a reverse image search of a screenshot from the video to find the same article if you're interested. Though given your record on this topic, actual research doesn't seem to be your jam.

Then you should have a link, I'll be happy to say I was wrong, if your source is genuine.

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[OKTexas]

So you just mechanically aped Alex Jones and didn't fact check anything.

I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

I only assume you commies lie.

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[Skylar]

I only assume you commie lie.

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You apparently assume that Alex Jones is a reliable source, tinfoil. And refuse to do the tiniest bit of your own research.

I even gave you the dates of the Tempe AZCentral article from 2020. And still, you just refuse to fact check anything you're apeing.

 

[OKTexas]

You apparently assume that Alex Jones is a reliable source, tinfoil. And refuse to do the tiniest bit of your own research.

I even gave you the dates of the Tempe AZCentral article from 2020. And still, you just refuse to fact check anything you're apeing.

You make a claim, it's on you to provide a link.

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[Skylar]

You make a claim, it's on you to provide a link.

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Wonderful standard. Show us the link confirming that was Thomas Matthew Crook.

Then I'll show you the AZCentral article from February 6th, 2020.

You can't rightly demand a standard you've laughably failed to meet, can you?

I'm looking right at the AZCentral article. It took 10 seconds to find with a reverse image search. I'll post the URL the moment you provide the link verifying that Thomas Matthew Crook was the one in your little video.

Smiling......we both know you've got jackshit, instead apeing whatever Alex Jones told you to think. How's that working out for you?

 

[Stryder50]

This is a gift article, so all of you can read it. By David Frum, ex-Bush speechwriter, and the one who came up with Bush's 'Axis of Evil'.

The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator​

Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.
By David Frum

When a madman hammered nearly to death the husband of then–House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump jeered and mocked. One of Trump’s sons and other close Trump supporters avidly promoted false claims that Paul Pelosi had somehow brought the onslaught upon himself through a sexual misadventure.

After authorities apprehended a right-wing-extremist plot to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Trump belittled the threat at a rally. He disparaged Whitmer as a political enemy. His supporters chanted “Lock her up.” Trump laughed and replied, “Lock them all up.”

Fascism feasts on violence. In the years since his own supporters attacked the Capitol to overturn the 2020 election—many of them threatening harm to Speaker Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence—Trump has championed the invaders, would-be kidnappers, and would-be murderers as martyrs and hostages. He has vowed to pardon them if returned to office. His own staffers have testified to the glee with which Trump watched the mayhem on television.

Now the bloodshed that Trump has done so much to incite against others has touched him as well. The attempted murder of Trump—and the killing of a person nearby—is a horror and an outrage. More will be learned about the man who committed this appalling act, and who was killed by the Secret Service. Whatever his mania or motive, the only important thing about him is the law-enforcement mistake that allowed him to bring a deadly weapon so close to a campaign event and gain a sight line of the presidential candidate. His name should otherwise be erased and forgotten.

It is sadly incorrect to say, as so many have, that political violence “has no place” in American society. Assassinations, lynchings, riots, and pogroms have stained every page of American political history. That has remained true to the present day. In 2016, and even more in 2020, Trump supporters brought weapons to intimidate opponents and vote-counters. Trump and his supporters envision a new place for violence as their defining political message in the 2024 election.

Fascist movements are secular religions. Like all religions, they offer martyrs as their proof of truth. The Mussolini movement in Italy built imposing monuments to its fallen comrades. The Trump movement now improves on that: The leader himself will be the martyr in chief, his own blood the basis for his bid for power and vengeance.


More truth at the LINK

Not "More truth", just more Marxist tainted propaganda presented as opinion. Note that "The Atlantic" is classic Leftist biased media. For insight to the sort of trash they will foist, here's the rest of that Op-ed;
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The 2024 election was already shaping up as a symbolic contest between an elderly and weakening liberalism too frail and uncertain to protect itself and an authoritarian, reactionary movement ready to burst every barrier and trash every institution. To date, Trump has led only a minority of U.S. voters, but that minority’s passion and audacity have offset what it lacks in numbers. After the shooting, Trump and his backers hope to use the iconography of a bloody ear and face, raised fist, and call to “Fight!” to summon waverers to their cause of installing Trump as an anti-constitutional ruler, exempted from ordinary law by his allies on the Supreme Court.

Other societies have backslid to authoritarianism because of some extraordinary crisis: economic depression, hyperinflation, military defeat, civil strife. In 2024, U.S. troops are nowhere at war. The American economy is booming, providing spectacular and widely shared prosperity. A brief spasm of mild post-pandemic inflation has been overcome. Indicators of social health have abruptly turned positive since Trump left office after years of deterioration during his term. Crime and fatal drug overdoses are declining in 2024; marriages and births are rising. Even the country’s problems indirectly confirm the country’s success: Migrants are crossing the border in the hundreds of thousands, because they know, even if Americans don’t, that the U.S. job market is among the hottest on Earth.

Yet despite all of this success, Americans are considering a form of self-harm that in other countries has typically followed the darkest national failures: letting the author of a failed coup d’état return to office to try again.

One reason this self-harm is nearing consummation is that American society is poorly prepared to understand and respond to radical challenges, once those challenges gain a certain mass. For nearly a century, “radical” in U.S. politics has usually meant “fringe”: Communists, Ku Kluxers, Black Panthers, Branch Davidians, Islamist jihadists. Radicals could be marginalized by the weight of the great American consensus that stretches from social democrats to business conservatives. Sometimes, a Joe McCarthy or a George Wallace would throw a scare into that mighty consensus, but in the past such challengers rarely formed stable coalitions with accepted stakeholders in society. Never gaining an enduring grip on the institutions of state, they flared up and burned out.

Trump is different. His abuses have been ratified by powerful constituencies. He has conquered and colonized one of the two major parties. He has defeated—or is on the way to defeating—every impeachment and prosecution to hold him to account for his frauds and crimes. He has assembled a mass following that is larger, more permanent, and more national in reach than any previous American demagogue. He has dominated the scene for nine years already, and he and his supporters hope they can use yesterday’s appalling event to extend the Trump era to the end of his life and beyond.

The American political and social system cannot treat such a person as an alien. It inevitably accommodates and naturalizes him. His counselors, even the thugs and felons, join the point-counterpoint dialogue at the summit of the American elite. President Joe Biden nearly wrecked his campaign because he felt obliged to meet Trump in debate. How could Biden have done otherwise? Trump is the three-time nominee of the Republican Party; it’s awkward and strange to treat him as an insurrectionist against the American state—though that’s what Trump was and is.
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BREAK for a breather ....

The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator

Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Stryder50]

The Atlantic's Frum fallacy continued; (part 2)
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The despicable shooting at Trump, which also caused death and injury to others, now secures his undeserved position as a partner in the protective rituals of the democracy he despises. The appropriate expressions of dismay and condemnation from every prominent voice in American life have the additional effect of habituating Americans to Trump’s legitimacy. In the face of such an outrage, the familiar and proper practice is to stress unity, to proclaim that Americans have more things in common than that divide them. Those soothing words, true in the past, are less true now.

Nobody seems to have language to say: We abhor, reject, repudiate, and punish all political violence, even as we maintain that Trump remains himself a promoter of such violence, a subverter of American institutions, and the very opposite of everything decent and patriotic in American life.

The Republican National Convention, which opens this week, will welcome to its stage apologists for Vladimir Putin’s Russia and its aggression against U.S. allies. Trump’s own infatuation with Russia and other dictatorships has not dimmed even slightly with age or experience. Yet all of these urgent and necessary truths must now be subdued to the ritual invocation of “thoughts and prayers” for someone who never gave a thought or uttered a prayer for any of the victims of his own many incitements to bloodshed. The president who used his office to champion the rights of dangerous people to own military-type weapons says he was grazed by a bullet from one such assault rifle.

Conventional phrases and polite hypocrisy fill a useful function in social life. We say “Thank you for your service” both to the decorated hero and to the veteran who barely escaped dishonorable discharge. It’s easier than deciphering which was which. We wish “Happy New Year!” even when we dread the months ahead.
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But conventional phrases don’t go unheard. They carry meanings, meanings no less powerful for being rote and reflexive. In rightly denouncing violence, we are extending an implicit pardon to the most violent person in contemporary U.S. politics. In asserting unity, we are absolving a man who seeks power through the humiliation and subordination of disdained others.

Those conventional phrases are inscribing Trump into a place in American life that he should have forfeited beyond redemption on January 6, 2021. All decent people welcome the sparing of his life. Trump’s reckoning should be with the orderly process of law, not with the bloodshed he rejoiced in when it befell others. He and his allies will exploit a gunman’s vicious criminality as their path to exonerate past crimes and empower new ones. Those who stand against Trump and his allies must find the will and the language to explain why these crimes, past and planned, are all wrong, all intolerable—and how the gunman and Trump, at their opposite ends of a bullet’s trajectory, are nonetheless joined together as common enemies of law and democracy.
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David Frum is a staff writer at The Atlantic.

The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator

Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Stryder50]

And for further insight to the mental illness of Leftist Marxism that infects the USA and has The Atlantic as it's mouthpiece, here's the teaser of the article(op-ed) following the above;

A Legendary American Photograph​

The photo of Trump after the attempt on his life is a badly needed window into the MAGA mindset.
By Tyler Austin Harper

Donald Trump raises a fist. Blood streaks his face. The sky is high, blue, and empty except for an American flag caught in a hard wind. A Secret Service agent has her arms around his waist. The former president’s mouth is open, in the middle of a snarled shout. We know from video footage that he is yelling “Fight!,” that the crowd is chanting “USA!”

The photograph, by the Associated Press’s Evan Vucci, became immediately legendary. However you feel about the man at its center, it is undeniably one of the great compositions in U.S. photographic history. Although I am deeply relieved that Trump survived this assassination attempt, I am no fan of his. But the first time I saw the photo, I felt an emotion that I later recognized, with considerable discomfort, as a fluttering of unbidden nationalist zeal. What encapsulates our American ideal more than bloody defiance and stubborn pride that teeters just on the edge of foolishness? No hunkering and no hiding—standing undaunted and undeterred, fist-pumping your way through an attempted murder. It was a moment when Trump supporters’ idea of him—strong, resilient, proud—collided with reality.

I can’t help but be moved by this remarkable image, taken by a Pulitzer Prize winner who ran toward the danger, camera in hand, rather than away from it. There is a perverse and paradoxical disjunction between Trump the man, who many argue is a threat to American democracy, and this image of Trump, which seems to capture the same democracy in all its pathology, mythos, and, yes, glory. ......
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Tyler Austin Harper is an assistant professor of environmental studies at Bates College and a contributing writer at The Atlantic.

A Legendary American Photograph

The photo of Trump after the attempt on his life is a badly needed window into the MAGA mindset.

www.theatlantic.com

Harper is such a persuasive political pundit .... for an "assistant professor of environmental studies"
....... and as we've seen so often, only the delusions and lies from the Marxist Left lemmings are "truth" .

And trust The Atlantic to give us insight to the Marxist MADA mindset. The folks who brought us the "peaceful protests" in hundred plus USA cities in Summer 2020, complete with insurrections, riots, arson, looting, vandalism, assaults and murders in the name of "autonomous zones" = not under the authority of the USA or it's Constitution and Laws (a.k.a. secession).

MADA = Make America Diminished Again

 

[IDIOCRACY]

This is a gift article, so all of you can read it. By David Frum, ex-Bush speechwriter, and the one who came up with Bush's 'Axis of Evil'.

The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator​

Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.
By David Frum

When a madman hammered nearly to death the husband of then–House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump jeered and mocked. One of Trump’s sons and other close Trump supporters avidly promoted false claims that Paul Pelosi had somehow brought the onslaught upon himself through a sexual misadventure.

After authorities apprehended a right-wing-extremist plot to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Trump belittled the threat at a rally. He disparaged Whitmer as a political enemy. His supporters chanted “Lock her up.” Trump laughed and replied, “Lock them all up.”

Fascism feasts on violence. In the years since his own supporters attacked the Capitol to overturn the 2020 election—many of them threatening harm to Speaker Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence—Trump has championed the invaders, would-be kidnappers, and would-be murderers as martyrs and hostages. He has vowed to pardon them if returned to office. His own staffers have testified to the glee with which Trump watched the mayhem on television.

Now the bloodshed that Trump has done so much to incite against others has touched him as well. The attempted murder of Trump—and the killing of a person nearby—is a horror and an outrage. More will be learned about the man who committed this appalling act, and who was killed by the Secret Service. Whatever his mania or motive, the only important thing about him is the law-enforcement mistake that allowed him to bring a deadly weapon so close to a campaign event and gain a sight line of the presidential candidate. His name should otherwise be erased and forgotten.

It is sadly incorrect to say, as so many have, that political violence “has no place” in American society. Assassinations, lynchings, riots, and pogroms have stained every page of American political history. That has remained true to the present day. In 2016, and even more in 2020, Trump supporters brought weapons to intimidate opponents and vote-counters. Trump and his supporters envision a new place for violence as their defining political message in the 2024 election.

Fascist movements are secular religions. Like all religions, they offer martyrs as their proof of truth. The Mussolini movement in Italy built imposing monuments to its fallen comrades. The Trump movement now improves on that: The leader himself will be the martyr in chief, his own blood the basis for his bid for power and vengeance.


More truth at the LINK

Fuk u alcoholic. Everything about u fuks is a tall tale. Would b dictator, u r a dik

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[Mac1958]

Now the bloodshed that Trump has done so much to incite against others has touched him as well.

Yeah. He and they will play this up for all it's worth, and it's worth a great deal to them. His eight years of rhetoric, and their eight years of rhetoric, won't count. We're supposed to ignore that.

I just saw a chiron on TV that says Trump claims he will use his convention speech to turn the heat down. If he does, I'll sure as hell commend him for it. But the troops and the captains? They'll remain at fever pitch. Feral as ever. Fully innocent victims, as always.

This crisis is across the board, and those who can't admit that are part of it.

 

[struth]

The DOJ makes it's own prosecutorial decisions. And in the case of Trump, the special prosecutor adds another degree of separation from the White House

The special prosecutor was brought in until late in the game

And the DOJ answers to the president

 

[Skylar]

The special prosecutor was brought in until late in the game

And the DOJ answers to the president

The DOJ is independent of the President and has been since Nixon. The president can call for the resignation of a given DOJ official. But the President is not involved in specific decisions or daily operations.

Trump wants to unwind that independence and make the DOJ into what conservatives imagine it is now.

Every conservative accusation is a confession.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Ignorance suits you.

It's even more ignorant to repost garbage that you do

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This forum is full of threats that are lies started by conservative.

Yes maybe you should stop posting so your threats and lies will go away.

 

[struth]

The DOJ is independent of the President and has been since Nixon. The president can call for the resignation of a given DOJ official. But the President is not involved in specific decisions or daily operations.

Trump wants to unwind that independence and make the DOJ into what conservatives imagine it is now.

Every conservative accusation is a confession.

You live in a fantasy irs not an independent agency

 

[struth]

Laughing.....so the actual Michigan voting officials explode your entire conspiracy fantasy with cold hard facts, and what do you do?

Summarily ignore them completely and cling to your fantasies, of course. Back in reality, for Michigan specifically, it was a reporting error.

View attachment 977722

With Decision Desk, the company where your image originated, confirming that there was erroneous data in their feed and it was corrected by officials.

"The images in the tweets appear to be screenshots of the website for Decision Desk HQ, a company that compiles election results for media companies and websites. Decision Desk said on Twitter that there had been a clerical error in its feed for one county in Michigan.

Once we identified the error, we cleared the erroneous data and updated it with the correct data as provided by officials,” the company said on Twitter."

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-biden-election-day-2020/card/myg0PPnyCePAcnvufS3k

But you HAVE to be a victim, don't you buddy? So you ignore everyone, even your own source, on the reporting error in Michigan.......and cling to your silly fantasy.

Yeah, I'll stick with the actual vote tallies over some rando on the internet who insists he knows better.

How does that show the DOJ is independent of the executive branch??