The Gun Control Debate will continue until we find solutions that make sense for people on both sides of the issue.

[Blues Man]

Then they move on to Theaters and Stadiums. And the schools already have single entry and it still happens. And using a different gun means the body count will be lower. We all need to save as many lives as we can. And those that make a militant stance on this probably should not have access to firearms either.
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And banning one rifle won't stop that either.

And actually no the body count won't be lower. What determines that more than the gun is the response time of the cops or another person with a gun.

The VA Tech shooter used 2 handguns and that is still one of the deadliest mass shootings we ever had.

And it's YOU who shouldn't have access. You are so afraid of one semiautomatic rifle that you threaten to murder anyone with one from 400 yds away

 

[Blues Man]

You're not a cat, you know absolutely nothing about cats. You're not a cat, so what you care about cats is fucking irrelevant.

But you still have relative opinions about cats.

So shove your Xenophobia up your ass with extra lube, dickwad. You're inbred off the goons the Brits sent over on the Mayflower.

I know about ignorant foreigners who like their government telling them what books they can read.

And you are confusing xenophobia with contempt. I have nothing but disdain and disgust for people who willingly allow their government to control them they way you do.



Run along little sheep your shepherd needs some meat for dinner and you're next

 

[Captain Caveman]

I know about ignorant foreigners who like their government telling them what books they can read.

And you are confusing xenophobia with contempt. I have nothing but disdain and disgust for people who willingly allow their government to control them they way you do.



Run along little sheep your shepherd needs some meat for dinner and you're next

Nah, you're just descended from the British, but with the missing good bits

 

[Blues Man]

Nah, you're just descended from the British, but with the missing good bits

Nope wrong again. Not everyone in this country has serf blood like you do.

Just one more thing to add to the list of things you are utterly ignorant of.

 

[2aguy]

Again, what weapon has the highest body count for school mass murders?

Off the top of my head that would be Virginia Tech shooting by the Asian killer…..32 killed with 2 handguns.

 

[2aguy]

What's a cat?

That's why you guys suffer high gun incidents and deaths, especially blowing the brains out of children. And my previous post never occured to you because you're clueless about guns.

No…..we have high gun deaths because the democrat party

1) has attacked the police to the point they can’t, or won’t do their jobs

2) the democrat party keeps releasing violent felons no matter how many gun crimes they commit

3) the democrats have dissolved our southern border allowing drug cartels and other criminals to flood our country.

 

[Blues Man]

No…..we have high gun deaths because the democrat party

1) has attacked the police to the point they can’t, or won’t do their jobs

2) the democrat party keeps releasing violent felons no matter how many gun crimes they commit

3) the democrats have dissolved our southern border allowing drug cartels and other criminals to flood our country.

The police haven't been doing their jobs for decades now.

No one is enforcing gun laws on the state or federal level

 

[2aguy]

But the vast majority of the school children mass murderers will be using the AR15. It holds the high body count record.

Only in the Las Vegas shooting……..because he was attacking a tightly packed crowd of over 22,0000 people from 400 yards…..

by the way….the record for mass killing is not from a gun, let alone a rifle…..

Nice, France…a Muslim terrorist used a rental truck to murder 86 people, and wounded 435 in 5 minutes of driving…….more killed in one attack, than in any mass public shooting in the U.S.

 

[Blues Man]

Only in the Las Vegas shooting……..because he was attacking a tightly packed crowd of over 22,0000 people from 400 yards…..

by the way….the record for mass killing is not from a gun, let alone a rifle…..

Nice, France…a Muslim terrorist used a rental truck to murder 86 people, and wounded 435 in 5 minutes of driving…….more killed in one attack, than in any mass public shooting in the U.S.

400 yds just like this irrationally fearful person has threatened to murder people with AR 15s from 4oo yds away

 

[2aguy]

The police haven't been doing their jobs for decades now.

No one is enforcing gun laws on the state or federal level

No, that isn’t on the police……democrat party prosecutors are dropping gun charges, even against violent repeat gun offenders, and the democrat party judges are releasing them on bail and giving them short sentences……while democrat politicians keep reducing the penalties against actual gun crimIMAP’s…

the cops arrest the thugs…the democrats make sure they are back on the streets.

 

[2aguy]

We have gun crime because the powers that be want it. We do not enforce our gun laws of which we have over 20000 on the books both state and federal. But you don;t know these things because because you don't live here.

Almost 2/3 of the "gun deaths" in this country are suicides and suicide is not violence nor is it a crime. Suicide is a choice that every single person on this planet has the absolute right to make.

The overwhelming majority of murders in this country are concentrated in very small very well defined neighborhoods in our poorest inner city areas and the politicians of these states do nothing to stop the illicit drug trade or the violence that goes along with it because if they did they would no longer be able to suck on the federal teat for more money and more militarized police to terrorize law abiding citizens.

All theses things contribute to the murder rate. 15000 murders committed with guns out of a population of 330000000 means that in any year you have a .0045% chance of being murdered by a person using a gun. And that chance drops if you don't live in an inner city urban shithole like the one I grew up in. If we got a handle on our inner cities and the illegal drug trade our murder rate would be more like 2 per 100K

But you don't know these things because you know absolutely nothing about this country.

You forgot to add the fact that those neighborhoods have been under complete democrat party control for decades…in some cases over 100 years…

 

[Blues Man]

No, that isn’t on the police……democrat party prosecutors are dropping gun charges, even against violent repeat gun offenders, and the democrat party judges are releasing them on bail and giving them short sentences……while democrat politicians keep reducing the penalties against actual gun crimIMAP’s…

the cops arrest the thugs…the democrats make sure they are back on the streets.

We disagree. The police are not there to protect the public anymore. They exist as a revenue arm for the state and that's about all.

 

[Vrenn]

And banning one rifle won't stop that either.

It breaks the ARCult which is the group that keeps going for the highest body count using the AR that is better at it than any other rifle available legally. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.

And actually no the body count won't be lower. What determines that more than the gun is the response time of the cops or another person with a gun.

The Aurora Theater shooting, the cops were there in less than 90 seconds. Body count: 50 dead, 400 injured. Not bad out of about 60 rounds. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.

The VA Tech shooter used 2 handguns and that is still one of the deadliest mass shootings we ever had.

That was the first that was openly recorded. Since then, schools have gone to some preventions. And that shooting was a piker compared to the other School shootings using the AR. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.

And it's YOU who shouldn't have access. You are so afraid of one semiautomatic rifle that you threaten to murder anyone with one from 400 yds away

Actually, an idiot would choose an AR for a 400+ yd shot. You can't even get that right. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.

 

[Blues Man]

It breaks the ARCult which is the group that keeps going for the highest body count using the AR that is better at it than any other rifle available legally. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.



The Aurora Theater shooting, the cops were there in less than 90 seconds. Body count: 50 dead, 400 injured. Not bad out of about 60 rounds. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.





That was the first that was openly recorded. Since then, schools have gone to some preventions. And that shooting was a piker compared to the other School shootings using the AR. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.




Actually, an idiot would choose an AR for a 400+ yd shot. You can't even get that right. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.

No such thing.
You might as well say there is a .22 caliber cult or a 9mm caliber cult.

Only you people who are irrationally afraid of a rifle make up this bullshit jargon.

And you are flat out lying.

The Aurora CO shooting resulted in 12 dead and 70 injured and I don't know if all 70 of those injured were shot. Some of them were no doubt injured in the stampede to get out

10 years later, Colorado remembers lives lost in Aurora theater shooting

Ten years have passed since a gunman slipped into a midnight screening of “The Dark Knight Rises” at the Century 16 cineplex and opened fire into the crowd, ending 12 lives, leaving 70 …

www.denverpost.com

Ten years have passed since a gunman slipped into a midnight screening of “The Dark Knight Rises” at the Century 16 cineplex and opened fire into the crowd, ending 12 lives, leaving 70 others injured

And banning one rifle will not save any children.

And yes YOU said you would murder anyone you saw with an AR 15 from 400 yds out.

 

[Vrenn]

No such thing.
You might as well say there is a .22 caliber cult or a 9mm caliber cult.

The 22 and 9mm guns aren't nearly as deadly. Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of child

Only you people who are irrationally afraid of a rifle make up this bullshit jargon.

Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.

And you are flat out lying.

Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.

The Aurora CO shooting resulted in 12 dead and 70 injured and I don't know if all 70 of those injured were shot. Some of them were no doubt injured in the stampede to get out

Hey, his AR jammed and his shotgun and pistol just didn't cut it so he went outside to clear the AR and reenter. The cops busted him outside during the 90 seconds.

And banning one rifle will not save any children.

Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.

And yes YOU said you would murder anyone you saw with an AR 15 from 400 yds out.

Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.

 

[2aguy]

It breaks the ARCult which is the group that keeps going for the highest body count using the AR that is better at it than any other rifle available legally. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.



The Aurora Theater shooting, the cops were there in less than 90 seconds. Body count: 50 dead, 400 injured. Not bad out of about 60 rounds. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.





That was the first that was openly recorded. Since then, schools have gone to some preventions. And that shooting was a piker compared to the other School shootings using the AR. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.




Actually, an idiot would choose an AR for a 400+ yd shot. You can't even get that right. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.

You don't know what you are talking about....

Again...it isn't the rifle....it is the amount of time the killer has before someone uses a gun to stop them....

Nashville

AR-15 rifle 6 killed


A Rental Truck in Nice, France, in 5 minutes.....

86 killed, 450 wounded...more than any mass public shooting in the U.S.


Cumbria shooting in Britain...

...no semi-auto rifle...... Double barrel shotgun, bolt action rifle

13 killed, 11 injured....


Kerch, Russia

5 shot, pump action shotgun, not a rifle, no magazine

20 killed

Navy Yard shooting

5 shot, pump action shotgun,not a rifle, no magazine

12 killed


Santa Fe, High school shooting

No rifle, pump action shotgun, .38 caliber revolver

10 killed


1928, Fairfield, California shooting

Lever action rifle 11 killed

Leung Ying - Wikipedia

1903, Winfield, Kansas shooting

8 killed, double barreled shotgun

1949, Camden, New Jersey shooting

11 killed, 8 shot, semi-automatic, German Luger pistol

Howard Unruh - Wikipedia

The Story of the First Mass Shooting in U.S. History

Luby's Cafe

24 killed, 2 pistols

Virgina Tech

32 people killed, 2 pistols.

The gun does not determine how many are killed

Magazine capacity does not determine how many are killed......

The amount of time the killer has in a gun free zone before someone shoots at and stops them determines how many get killed


==========
From 1982....various attacks.....most done without rifles, you twit.


Gilroy, semi-auto rifle with large magazine....3 killed

Dayton, democrat, socialist, antifa member, elizabeth warren supporter, semi-auto rifle with regular magazine....9 killed.

Umpquaa Community college shooting....5 pistols, 9 killed

Charleston Church shooting, 9 dead, 1 pistol.

Atlanta spree shooting.... 9 dead 3 pistols

Red Lake shooting 10 dead 2 pistols.

Santa Fe High school shooting...no rifle, no magazine.....shot gun and .38 revolver... 10 killed

Russian Polytechnic school shooting.... no rifle, no magazine.....tube fed, 5 shot, pump action shotgun....20 killed, 40 injured.

Navy Yard shooting.... no rifle, no magazine, tube fed pump action shotgun, 5,6 or 7 shot pump action shotgun....12 killed

Virginia Tech.... 32 people killed, 2 pistols.

Luby's cafe.... 24 killed, 2 pistols

British, Cumbria shooting....no semi-auto rifle...... Double barrel shotgun, bolt action rifle 13 killed, 11 injured....

Fort Hood....1 pistol....13 killed

Virginia beach...2 pistols .... 12 killed

 

[2aguy]

It breaks the ARCult which is the group that keeps going for the highest body count using the AR that is better at it than any other rifle available legally. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.



The Aurora Theater shooting, the cops were there in less than 90 seconds. Body count: 50 dead, 400 injured. Not bad out of about 60 rounds. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.





That was the first that was openly recorded. Since then, schools have gone to some preventions. And that shooting was a piker compared to the other School shootings using the AR. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.




Actually, an idiot would choose an AR for a 400+ yd shot. You can't even get that right. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.

They were at the scene in 90 seconds, not in the theater...you dolt.

And as soon as he was confronted by someone with a gun he surrendered.......it was a gun free zone in that theater......

Again, the theater killer fired into a tightly packed crowd, confined by the seats and the limited exits...........and it was a gun free zone.....the only theater in the area that banned concealed carry .....you idiot.

Had anyone in the front rows had their own gun, they could have stopped him....

Watch the show "Active Shooter," on Showtime...........they talk to the people who were in the theater, they talk to the killers court appointed psychiatrist....

The shooter intentionally fired over the heads of the people closest to him because he told the psychiatrist he didn't want a personal connection to the people he killed.....he also said he walked up on a girl who looked him in the eye and started to laugh....he didn't shoot her, he walked past her....the eye contact saved her....

You have no idea what you are talking about....

 

[2aguy]

It breaks the ARCult which is the group that keeps going for the highest body count using the AR that is better at it than any other rifle available legally. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.



The Aurora Theater shooting, the cops were there in less than 90 seconds. Body count: 50 dead, 400 injured. Not bad out of about 60 rounds. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.





That was the first that was openly recorded. Since then, schools have gone to some preventions. And that shooting was a piker compared to the other School shootings using the AR. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.




Actually, an idiot would choose an AR for a 400+ yd shot. You can't even get that right. You keep lying to cover up that your AR is more important to you than the lives of children.

Hey....idiot......

The Aurora shooting....with an AR-15 rifle, shotgun and pistol....


12 killed.....

You couldn't even get that right.....

Meanwhile.....

Luby's Cafe

24 killed, 2 pistols

Virgina Tech

32 people killed, 2 pistols.


Kerch, Russia

5 shot, pump action shotgun, not a rifle, no magazine

20 killed
Cumbria shooting in Britain...

...no semi-auto rifle...... Double barrel shotgun, bolt action rifle

13 killed, 11 injured....


=======

Nashville

AR-15 rifle 6 killed


A Rental Truck in Nice, France, in 5 minutes.....

86 killed, 450 wounded...more than any mass public shooting in the U.S.


Cumbria shooting in Britain...

...no semi-auto rifle...... Double barrel shotgun, bolt action rifle

13 killed, 11 injured....


Kerch, Russia

5 shot, pump action shotgun, not a rifle, no magazine

20 killed

Navy Yard shooting

5 shot, pump action shotgun,not a rifle, no magazine

12 killed


Santa Fe, High school shooting

No rifle, pump action shotgun, .38 caliber revolver

10 killed


1928, Fairfield, California shooting

Lever action rifle 11 killed

Leung Ying - Wikipedia

1903, Winfield, Kansas shooting

8 killed, double barreled shotgun

1949, Camden, New Jersey shooting

11 killed, 8 shot, semi-automatic, German Luger pistol

Howard Unruh - Wikipedia

The Story of the First Mass Shooting in U.S. History

Luby's Cafe

24 killed, 2 pistols

Virgina Tech

32 people killed, 2 pistols.

The gun does not determine how many are killed

Magazine capacity does not determine how many are killed......

The amount of time the killer has in a gun free zone before someone shoots at and stops them determines how many get killed


==========
From 1982....various attacks.....most done without rifles, you twit.


Gilroy, semi-auto rifle with large magazine....3 killed

Dayton, democrat, socialist, antifa member, elizabeth warren supporter, semi-auto rifle with regular magazine....9 killed.

Umpquaa Community college shooting....5 pistols, 9 killed

Charleston Church shooting, 9 dead, 1 pistol.

Atlanta spree shooting.... 9 dead 3 pistols

Red Lake shooting 10 dead 2 pistols.

Santa Fe High school shooting...no rifle, no magazine.....shot gun and .38 revolver... 10 killed

Russian Polytechnic school shooting.... no rifle, no magazine.....tube fed, 5 shot, pump action shotgun....20 killed, 40 injured.

Navy Yard shooting.... no rifle, no magazine, tube fed pump action shotgun, 5,6 or 7 shot pump action shotgun....12 killed

Virginia Tech.... 32 people killed, 2 pistols.

Luby's cafe.... 24 killed, 2 pistols

British, Cumbria shooting....no semi-auto rifle...... Double barrel shotgun, bolt action rifle 13 killed, 11 injured....

Fort Hood....1 pistol....13 killed

Virginia beach...2 pistols .... 12 killed

 

[2aguy]

The 22 and 9mm guns aren't nearly as deadly. Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of child



Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.


Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.




Hey, his AR jammed and his shotgun and pistol just didn't cut it so he went outside to clear the AR and reenter. The cops busted him outside during the 90 seconds.



Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.


Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.

Hey.......asshole.........you guys are the ones who fight against protecting children.....you prevent schools from protecting children...

Why?

Because you need dead children to push your gun control agenda....

Gun free zones ........which schools are because of people like you...draw these attacks...

The democrat party, left wing, trans gender killer targeted that school because it was a gun free zone....she passed over other schools because they had more security........the Sandy Hook shooter picked the one school in the area that didn't have an armed, police resource officer.........



So, knowing this, you push to keep schools from increasing security....you prevent schools from having armed guards to protect them....

Why?

Because you want dead kids.....because dead children give you the most emotional black mail over uninformed Americans.......

 

[2aguy]

The 22 and 9mm guns aren't nearly as deadly. Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of child



Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.


Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.




Hey, his AR jammed and his shotgun and pistol just didn't cut it so he went outside to clear the AR and reenter. The cops busted him outside during the 90 seconds.



Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.


Please stop proving that your AR is more important than the lives of children.

He gave up as soon as someone with a gun confronted him.........

Again.....

He gave up as soon as someone with a gun confronted him.....

The theater was a gun free zone.....the only theater in the area that prohibited normal people from having their legal guns with them......making them easy victims for the shooter........