The Greatest Economy of all Time Needs... QE4...

[The Banker]

The Banker doesn’t even know what EBITDA is. Sad.

Is that the sort of thing that banks deal with?

That is one of the primary financial terms that banks deal with. Commercial and investment.

Why are you even talking about something as simple as EBIDTA, and don't make false claims about me when you have no clue what you are talking about? Why would you even say that? The fact that you would say that shows how simple and stupid you are.

How about you answer these questions:

1) Please explain to others the difference between QE and the repo market intervention.
2) Is QE defined by where our interest rates are or by the act of purchasing government bonds and assets with newly created money, and if we purchase gov bonds with newly created money and have interest rates at 1.5% is that still QE?
3) Please explain the difference between open market operations and QE, as QE is a form of open market operations
4) are we doing QE again?

 

[g5000]

If you get to build a house and then buy fire insurance against it, so you build the house out of flammable materials and shoddy electrical wiring, you know exactly what you are doing, and you know it is insurance fraud.

Going through a middleman does not exculpate you.

Paulson didn't write the mortgages. He didn't hide info about them from a client. Sorry.

If Goldman had info about the shittiness of these securities and misrepresented them, that's
Goldman's fraud, not Paulson's.

The "house" in the analogy is the CDO.

Paulson built it. Out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring.

Then he bought insurance against it.

He belongs in prison.

For life.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The Banker doesn’t even know what EBITDA is. Sad.

Is that the sort of thing that banks deal with?

That is one of the primary financial terms that banks deal with. Commercial and investment.

Why are you even talking about something as simple as EBIDTA, and don't make false claims about me when you have no clue what you are talking about? Why would you even say that? The fact that you would say that shows how simple you are.

How about you answer these questions:

1) Please explain to others the difference between QE and the repo market intervention.
2) Is QE defined by where our interest rates are or by the act of purchasing government bonds and assets with newly created money, and if we purchase gov bonds with newly created money and have interest rates at 1.5% is that still QE?
3) Please explain the difference between open market operations and QE, as QE is a form of open market operations
4) are we doing QE again?

LMAO. You finally respond. You answer me first. What is EBITDA and why is it a critical component for both commercial and investment banking?

You do realize that QE is simply printing of money (albeit not literally but electronically). You’re no banker. I live in Boston. You’re a fraud. Prove me wrong.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves

Like overnight repos?

The repo market is a cash market, cash to cash, not treasury bonds moron.

The Fed buys cash with cash.....just stop. Idiot.

QE is when the central banks buy treasury bonds or other assets.

The first time the Fed ever, ever bought assets was after 2008? DURR.

QE is when the central banks buy treasury bonds or other assets. It has nothing to do with interest rates.

Where were you a banker? Was it during a game of Monopoly?

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The Fed buys cash with cash.....just stop. Idiot.

Where did I say they buy cash w cash, in the Repo market, they lend cash and get paid back with cash, QE is when they buy treasury bonds with cash, You said they are "buying the bonds back" when that is 100% false and shows your stupidity and lack of understanding of all this. Again you have no clue the difference between the repo market and QE.


QE is when they can't cut rates any further.....and have to buy assets.

Completely false. QE is when they buy bonds or assets, exactly what they are doing now, which you don't seem to understand. If interest rates are at 1.5% and they buy assets/bonds then it is QE.

So again are we doing QE or not? Because you have repeatedly said we are not, when we are.

Village Idiot, you have made maybe 10 completely wrong and false statements in this thread. And now you are trying to somehow backtrack away from all your wrong statements.

Where did I say they buy cash w cash, in the Repo market, they lend cash and get paid back with cash,

Of course repurchase agreements lend cash and get repaid in cash. Just what is it you think is being purchased and sold in a REPURCHASE agreement? Bonds. Usually, but not always, Treasury bonds, notes or bills.

QE is when they buy bonds or assets,

Nope.

View attachment 293532

Federal Reserve Board - Open market operations

Did you get fired from your "banker" job for incompetence? Or was it fraud?

Freakin village idiot, here you go again with more misstatements.

You said this:

They sell the bonds back.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet, hence the balance sheet expansion and increase in the money supply, which falls under QE, so i guess you just confirmed that you don't know the difference between a Repo and QE.

Then you tried to say that it wasn't QE because we don't have zero interest rates???
You stupidly said this:
QE is when they can't cut rates any further.....and have to buy assets.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are???? Stupidity and completely false. You have no clue what you are talking about and this stupid and false statement proves it.

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations??? Now you have just dug yourself into a bigger hole. SOoooooo explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE, in which you will then realize that we are doing QE, because QE is an OMO, and is exactly what we are doing right now. AHAHAHAH!!! So let's here it Village idiot...

They sell the bonds back.

Yup. In repos they sell the bonds back, next day or in a week or even a bit longer, depending on the terms of the repo.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet,

Not the repos, you twit.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

What were interest rates in all the QEs before 2008?
Just look at the term, quantitative easing. What are they easing?
What was the overnight rate when they started QE3 in 2012?

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations???

Yes. These asset purchases are permanent (for now) open market operations.

They sell the bonds back

They do:

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Since the large interventions started, money-market rates have calmed down. The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

Again you have shown that you have no clue the difference between Repos and QE. It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back. So explain to use what that is called, when they are keeping around $60B a month for 6 months!!!! Because they are clearly not selling the bonds back.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

AHAHAHA!!!!! Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates. You dumb fuck, that is just completely false!!! Now you are just guessing, you don't even know what QE is. QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money, so if they purchase bonds when rates are 1% that somehow is not QE??? dumb fuck.

You never answered my question, what is the difference between an OMO and QE?????????

All this because you can't admit we are doing QE4.

It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back.

Right. They are keeping purchases from their OMOs, but repos are sold back, next day, week, month.

Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates.

Right after you show a link that says every permanent open market purchase is QE.

QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money,

The Fed says you're wrong.

And did you catch this part?

Temporary OMOs are typically used to address reserve needs that are deemed to be transitory in nature. These operations are either repurchase agreements (repos) or reverse repurchase agreements (reverse repos or RRPs). Under a repo, the Trading Desk buys a security under an agreement to resell that security in the future.

Now do you understand what repo means?

 

[The Irish Ram]

The economy is booming!!! As the Trumpers like to say, even though the economic data is practically the same as Obama's and the deficit has exploded again, almost doubling Obama's 2016 annual deficit of $587 to over $1 Trillion, with deficits projected to be way over $1 T next yr and beyond.

But that massive increase in deficit spending is not enough to prop up our fiat economy we also need another round of QE!!!

We all heard the Trumpers whine and cry about QE under Obama, but I'm sure 99% of them won't cry now...

Now why would the greatest economy of all time need quantitative easing, on top of all the increase in deficit spending?

The FED was supposed to be reducing its balance sheet instead it is greatly expanding it to the tune of hundreds of Billions. They also expect QE4 to last at least until Q2 of next year.

If you took away Trump's massive deficit spending and this latest QE 4 we would be in recession.

You do realize we will have to pay for this some day right??

Now we see why trump had to declare bankruptcy so many times...

But hey we've got a "booming economy" don't we!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4295640-hello-qe4-and-damage-brings

We the people are working again. Low unemployment means more money to spend. And spend Americans are. And while shopping, they stop in restaurants for lunch. They stop to buy gas on the way home from shopping. UPS had to go and buy 14 more planes to cart all of our stuff around.
Capitalism works when we work. Let Trump do his job...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you get to build a house and then buy fire insurance against it, so you build the house out of flammable materials and shoddy electrical wiring, you know exactly what you are doing, and you know it is insurance fraud.

Going through a middleman does not exculpate you.

Paulson didn't write the mortgages. He didn't hide info about them from a client. Sorry.

If Goldman had info about the shittiness of these securities and misrepresented them, that's
Goldman's fraud, not Paulson's.

The "house" in the analogy is the CDO.

Paulson built it. Out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring.

Then he bought insurance against it.

He belongs in prison.

For life.

Paulson built it. Out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring.

How did Paulson know it was built out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring?

 

[The Banker]

The Fed buys cash with cash.....just stop. Idiot.

Where did I say they buy cash w cash, in the Repo market, they lend cash and get paid back with cash, QE is when they buy treasury bonds with cash, You said they are "buying the bonds back" when that is 100% false and shows your stupidity and lack of understanding of all this. Again you have no clue the difference between the repo market and QE.


QE is when they can't cut rates any further.....and have to buy assets.

Completely false. QE is when they buy bonds or assets, exactly what they are doing now, which you don't seem to understand. If interest rates are at 1.5% and they buy assets/bonds then it is QE.

So again are we doing QE or not? Because you have repeatedly said we are not, when we are.

Village Idiot, you have made maybe 10 completely wrong and false statements in this thread. And now you are trying to somehow backtrack away from all your wrong statements.

Where did I say they buy cash w cash, in the Repo market, they lend cash and get paid back with cash,

Of course repurchase agreements lend cash and get repaid in cash. Just what is it you think is being purchased and sold in a REPURCHASE agreement? Bonds. Usually, but not always, Treasury bonds, notes or bills.

QE is when they buy bonds or assets,

Nope.

View attachment 293532

Federal Reserve Board - Open market operations

Did you get fired from your "banker" job for incompetence? Or was it fraud?

Freakin village idiot, here you go again with more misstatements.

You said this:

They sell the bonds back.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet, hence the balance sheet expansion and increase in the money supply, which falls under QE, so i guess you just confirmed that you don't know the difference between a Repo and QE.

Then you tried to say that it wasn't QE because we don't have zero interest rates???
You stupidly said this:
QE is when they can't cut rates any further.....and have to buy assets.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are???? Stupidity and completely false. You have no clue what you are talking about and this stupid and false statement proves it.

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations??? Now you have just dug yourself into a bigger hole. SOoooooo explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE, in which you will then realize that we are doing QE, because QE is an OMO, and is exactly what we are doing right now. AHAHAHAH!!! So let's here it Village idiot...

They sell the bonds back.

Yup. In repos they sell the bonds back, next day or in a week or even a bit longer, depending on the terms of the repo.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet,

Not the repos, you twit.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

What were interest rates in all the QEs before 2008?
Just look at the term, quantitative easing. What are they easing?
What was the overnight rate when they started QE3 in 2012?

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations???

Yes. These asset purchases are permanent (for now) open market operations.

They sell the bonds back

They do:

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Since the large interventions started, money-market rates have calmed down. The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

Again you have shown that you have no clue the difference between Repos and QE. It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back. So explain to use what that is called, when they are keeping around $60B a month for 6 months!!!! Because they are clearly not selling the bonds back.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

AHAHAHA!!!!! Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates. You dumb fuck, that is just completely false!!! Now you are just guessing, you don't even know what QE is. QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money, so if they purchase bonds when rates are 1% that somehow is not QE??? dumb fuck.

You never answered my question, what is the difference between an OMO and QE?????????

All this because you can't admit we are doing QE4.

It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back.

Right. They are keeping purchases from their OMOs, but repos are sold back, next day, week, month.

Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates.

Right after you show a link that says every permanent open market purchase is QE.

QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money,

The Fed says you're wrong.

And did you catch this part?

Temporary OMOs are typically used to address reserve needs that are deemed to be transitory in nature. These operations are either repurchase agreements (repos) or reverse repurchase agreements (reverse repos or RRPs). Under a repo, the Trading Desk buys a security under an agreement to resell that security in the future.

Now do you understand what repo means?

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back, as they are clearly keeping them on their balance sheet!!!! Somehow I doubt it. Because you repeatedly, and stupidly, kept saying they sell them back they sell them back, not understanding that they were keeping the treasury bonds on their balance sheet. I can bring up you post and your exact words if I need to.

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.
And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

And enough with your selective editing of my posts, you are using that to try and change the subject and avoid answering questions that you don't know how to answer, it's pathetic and shows you have no clue what you are talking about, per usual.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The economy is booming!!! As the Trumpers like to say, even though the economic data is practically the same as Obama's and the deficit has exploded again, almost doubling Obama's 2016 annual deficit of $587 to over $1 Trillion, with deficits projected to be way over $1 T next yr and beyond.

But that massive increase in deficit spending is not enough to prop up our fiat economy we also need another round of QE!!!

We all heard the Trumpers whine and cry about QE under Obama, but I'm sure 99% of them won't cry now...

Now why would the greatest economy of all time need quantitative easing, on top of all the increase in deficit spending?

The FED was supposed to be reducing its balance sheet instead it is greatly expanding it to the tune of hundreds of Billions. They also expect QE4 to last at least until Q2 of next year.

If you took away Trump's massive deficit spending and this latest QE 4 we would be in recession.

You do realize we will have to pay for this some day right??

Now we see why trump had to declare bankruptcy so many times...

But hey we've got a "booming economy" don't we!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4295640-hello-qe4-and-damage-brings

We the people are working again. Low unemployment means more money to spend. And spend Americans are. And while shopping, they stop in restaurants for lunch. They stop to buy gas on the way home from shopping. UPS had to go and buy 14 more planes to cart all of our stuff around.
Capitalism works when we work. Let Trump do his job...

Problem is much of that spending is being done by adding consumer debt

 

[g5000]

If you get to build a house and then buy fire insurance against it, so you build the house out of flammable materials and shoddy electrical wiring, you know exactly what you are doing, and you know it is insurance fraud.

Going through a middleman does not exculpate you.

Paulson didn't write the mortgages. He didn't hide info about them from a client. Sorry.

If Goldman had info about the shittiness of these securities and misrepresented them, that's
Goldman's fraud, not Paulson's.

The "house" in the analogy is the CDO.

Paulson built it. Out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring.

Then he bought insurance against it.

He belongs in prison.

For life.

Paulson built it. Out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring.

How did Paulson know it was built out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring?

HE BUILT IT! Deliberately.

 

[g5000]

You know we are living in a truly bizarre world when the people whose investments were ass-raped by these fraudsters are standing up for the fraudsters.

"Thank you, sir! May I have another?"

 

[Weatherman2020]

The really sickening part about Abacus 2007-AC1 is that Goldman Sachs was fined for only about half of the profit they made from their fraud.

Talk about a "moral hazard"!!!

Your selective outrage is hilarious.


Goldman Sachs Personnel in the Barack Obama White House
Lael Brainard: Brainard is the United States Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs in the administration of Obama.

Gregory Craig: Former White House Counsel, Recently hired by Goldman Sachs.

Thomas Donilon: Deputy National Security Adviser (despite having a career that is mostly involved with domestic politics). Donilon was a lawyer at O’Melveny and Myers and made almost $4 million representing meltdown clients including Penny Pritzker (of Chicago) and Goldman Sachs.

William C. Dudley: President and Chief Executive Officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, partner and managing director at Goldman Sachs and was the firm’s chief U.S. economist for a decade.

Douglas Elmendorf: Obama Director of the Congressional Budget Office in January 2009, replaced Furman as Director of the Hamilton Project (Note that the Hamilton Project was funded by Robert Rubin and Goldman Sachs).






Rahm Emanuel: Obama Chief of Staff, on the payroll of Goldman Sachs receiving $3,000 per month from the firm to “introduce us to people”, in the words of one Goldman Sachs partner at the time.

Dianna Farrell: Obama Administration: Deputy Director, National Economic Council. Former Goldman Sachs Title: Financial Analyst.

Stephen Friedman: Obama Administration: Chairman, President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. Former Goldman Sachs Title: Board Member (Chairman 1990-94; Director 2005).

Michael Frohman: Robert Rubin’s Chief of Staff while Rubin served as Secretary of the Treasury and an Obama “head hunter” according to “Rubin Proteges Change Their Tune as They Join Obama’s Team” in the New York Times.

Anne Fudge: Appointed to Obama budget deficit reduction committee. Fudge has been the PR craftsman for some of America’s largest corporations. She sits, according to the Washington Post, as a Trustee of the Brookings Institution within which the Hamilton Project is embedded.

Jason Furman: Directed economic policy for the Obama Presidential Campaign, served as the second Director of the Hamilton Project after Peter Orszag’s departure for the Obama administration.

Mark Gallogly: Sits on the Hamilton Project’s advisory council. He is also, according to Wikipedia, currently a member of President Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board.

Timothy Geithner: Secretary of the Treasury, former President of the New York Fed. a former managing director of Goldman Sachs.

Gary Gensler: Obama Administration: Commissioner of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Former Goldman Sachs Title: Partner and Co-head of Finance.

Michael Greenstone: The 4th Director of the Hamilton Project. Just as attorney Craig went from advising Obama to defending Goldman Sachs against the SEC complaint, Greenstone has used the revolving door to go from an Obama economic adviser position to one of the Goldman Sachs outlets – in this case its think tank embedded in the Brookings Institution and funded by Goldman Sachs and Robert Rubin. All 3 previous Directors of the Hamilton Project work in the Obama administration.

Robert Hormats: Obama Administration: Undersecretary for Economic, Energy and Agricultural Affairs, State Department. Former Goldman Sachs Title: Vice Chairman, Goldman Sachs Group.

Neel Kashkari: Served under Treasury Secretary Paulson (a former Goldman Sachs CEO) and was kept on by Obama after his inauguration for a limited period to work on TARP oversight. Former Vice President of Goldman Sachs in San Francisco where he led Goldman’s Information Technology Security Investment Banking practice.

Karen Kornbluh: (Sometimes called “Obama’s brain”) Obama Ambassador to the OECD. Was Deputy Chief of Staff to ‘Mr. Goldman Sachs’, Robert Rubin.

Jacob “Jack” Lew: The United States Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources. According to Wikipedia, Lew sits on the Brookings-Rubin funded Hamilton Project Advisory Board. He also served with Robert Rubin in Bill Clinton’s cabinet as Director of OMB.





David Lipton: Now on Obama’s National Economic Council and the National Security Council. Lipton worked with Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner on the US response to the Asian financial crisis of the 1990’s. MergeFoundations reports that Lipton worked closely with Robert Rubin.

Emil Michael: White House Fellow. Former investment banker with Goldman Sachs.

Eric Mindich: Former chief strategy officer of New York-based Goldman Sachs, started Eton Park in 2004 with $3.5 billion, at the time one of the biggest hedge-fund launches ever. …..Hank Paulson Tipped Off The Goldman-Led “Plunge Protection Team” About Fannie Bankruptcy 7 Weeks In Advance (2007): Goldman operative Eric Mindich in the hierarchy of the Asset Managers’ committee of the President’s Working Group on Capital Markets, better known of course as the PPT (in 2009).

Philip Murphy: Obama Administration: Ambassador to Germany. Former Goldman Sachs Title: Head of Goldman Sachs, Frankfurt.

Barack Obama: Obama owes his career to Goldman Sachs which was not only his biggest financial contributor when he ran for the Presidency, but was also his biggest contributor when he ran for the US Senate.

Peter Orszag: Obama Budget Director. Founding director of the Hamilton Project, funded by Goldman Sachs and Robert Rubin. Wikipedia indicates that Robert Rubin, Goldman’s ex-CEO, was one of Orszag’s mentors.

Mark Patterson: Obama Administration: Chief of Staff to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geitner. Former Goldman Sachs Title: Lobbyist 2005-2008; Vice President for Government Relations.

Mark Peterson: Chief of staff to Timothy Geithner. Goldman Sachs Vice President and lobbyist.

Steve Ratner: The shady billionaire financier who Obama appointed as his “car czar” and who resigned after it was revealed that his company, the Quadrangle Group, was apparently involved in “pay to play” for a billion dollars or so of New York State pension funds, and was under possible indictment by the New York AG and the SEC. Sits on the Advisory Council of the Goldman funded Hamilton Project.

Robert Reischauer: A member of the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission from 2000-2009 and was its Vice Chair from 2001-2008. He too sits on the Hamilton Project’s advisory board.

Alice Rivlin: Obama named Alice Rivlin to his so-called Deficit Reduction Commission.

James Rubin: Son of Robert Rubin. Served as a ‘headhunter’ for Obama per the New York Times article, “Rubin Proteges Change Their Tune as They Join Obama’s Team”.

Gene Sperling: Advisor to Timothy Geithner on bailouts. Sperling paid by Goldman Sachs for one year of consulting work.





Adam Storch: Obama Managing Executive of the Security and Exchange Commission’s Division of Enforcement. Former Vice President in the Goldman Sachs Business Intelligence Group.

Larry Summers: Obama chief economic adviser and head of the National Economic Counsel. Worked under Robert Rubin at Goldman Sachs.

John Thain: Obama Administration: Advisor to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. Former Goldman Sachs Title: President and Chief Operating Officer (1999-2003).

Dumbass. I frequently pointed out how many Goldman alumni worked for Obama on other forums.

You stupid fucks make the idiotic logical fallacy of assuming I'm an Obama fan just because I hate Trump.


I think I may have even pointed out on this forum that Hank Paulson came to work for BUSH (not Obama) right after Wall Street was alerted to the toxicity of AIG's credit default swaps, and then he made sure Goldman got a dollar for dollar bailout on their AIG CDS. They didn't get the haircut they deserved.

Sure you did. That’s why you kissed Obama’s ass at every opportunity.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Where did I say they buy cash w cash, in the Repo market, they lend cash and get paid back with cash,

Of course repurchase agreements lend cash and get repaid in cash. Just what is it you think is being purchased and sold in a REPURCHASE agreement? Bonds. Usually, but not always, Treasury bonds, notes or bills.

QE is when they buy bonds or assets,

Nope.

View attachment 293532

Federal Reserve Board - Open market operations

Did you get fired from your "banker" job for incompetence? Or was it fraud?

Freakin village idiot, here you go again with more misstatements.

You said this:

They sell the bonds back.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet, hence the balance sheet expansion and increase in the money supply, which falls under QE, so i guess you just confirmed that you don't know the difference between a Repo and QE.

Then you tried to say that it wasn't QE because we don't have zero interest rates???
You stupidly said this:
QE is when they can't cut rates any further.....and have to buy assets.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are???? Stupidity and completely false. You have no clue what you are talking about and this stupid and false statement proves it.

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations??? Now you have just dug yourself into a bigger hole. SOoooooo explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE, in which you will then realize that we are doing QE, because QE is an OMO, and is exactly what we are doing right now. AHAHAHAH!!! So let's here it Village idiot...

They sell the bonds back.

Yup. In repos they sell the bonds back, next day or in a week or even a bit longer, depending on the terms of the repo.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet,

Not the repos, you twit.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

What were interest rates in all the QEs before 2008?
Just look at the term, quantitative easing. What are they easing?
What was the overnight rate when they started QE3 in 2012?

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations???

Yes. These asset purchases are permanent (for now) open market operations.

They sell the bonds back

They do:

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Since the large interventions started, money-market rates have calmed down. The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

Again you have shown that you have no clue the difference between Repos and QE. It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back. So explain to use what that is called, when they are keeping around $60B a month for 6 months!!!! Because they are clearly not selling the bonds back.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

AHAHAHA!!!!! Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates. You dumb fuck, that is just completely false!!! Now you are just guessing, you don't even know what QE is. QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money, so if they purchase bonds when rates are 1% that somehow is not QE??? dumb fuck.

You never answered my question, what is the difference between an OMO and QE?????????

All this because you can't admit we are doing QE4.

It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back.

Right. They are keeping purchases from their OMOs, but repos are sold back, next day, week, month.

Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates.

Right after you show a link that says every permanent open market purchase is QE.

QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money,

The Fed says you're wrong.

And did you catch this part?

Temporary OMOs are typically used to address reserve needs that are deemed to be transitory in nature. These operations are either repurchase agreements (repos) or reverse repurchase agreements (reverse repos or RRPs). Under a repo, the Trading Desk buys a security under an agreement to resell that security in the future.

Now do you understand what repo means?

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back, as they are clearly keeping them on their balance sheet!!!! Somehow I doubt it. Because you repeatedly, and stupidly, kept saying they sell them back they sell them back, not understanding that they were keeping the treasury bonds on their balance sheet. I can bring up you post and your exact words if I need to.

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.
And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back,

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.

Did you see a difference at the Fed link I provided?​

And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

Sure. As soon as you show where rates were during any QE.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you get to build a house and then buy fire insurance against it, so you build the house out of flammable materials and shoddy electrical wiring, you know exactly what you are doing, and you know it is insurance fraud.

Going through a middleman does not exculpate you.

Paulson didn't write the mortgages. He didn't hide info about them from a client. Sorry.

If Goldman had info about the shittiness of these securities and misrepresented them, that's
Goldman's fraud, not Paulson's.

The "house" in the analogy is the CDO.

Paulson built it. Out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring.

Then he bought insurance against it.

He belongs in prison.

For life.

Paulson built it. Out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring.

How did Paulson know it was built out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring?

HE BUILT IT! Deliberately.

Paulson picked pre-existing mortgages, right?
How did he know they were "built out of flammable materials and shoddy wiring"?
Because he didn't write the mortgages. Did he?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You know we are living in a truly bizarre world when the people whose investments were ass-raped by these fraudsters are standing up for the fraudsters.

"Thank you, sir! May I have another?"

Goldman and Paulson didn't touch, let alone rape, any of my investments.

 

[The Banker]

Freakin village idiot, here you go again with more misstatements.

You said this:

They sell the bonds back.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet, hence the balance sheet expansion and increase in the money supply, which falls under QE, so i guess you just confirmed that you don't know the difference between a Repo and QE.

Then you tried to say that it wasn't QE because we don't have zero interest rates???
You stupidly said this:
QE is when they can't cut rates any further.....and have to buy assets.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are???? Stupidity and completely false. You have no clue what you are talking about and this stupid and false statement proves it.

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations??? Now you have just dug yourself into a bigger hole. SOoooooo explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE, in which you will then realize that we are doing QE, because QE is an OMO, and is exactly what we are doing right now. AHAHAHAH!!! So let's here it Village idiot...

They sell the bonds back.

Yup. In repos they sell the bonds back, next day or in a week or even a bit longer, depending on the terms of the repo.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet,

Not the repos, you twit.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

What were interest rates in all the QEs before 2008?
Just look at the term, quantitative easing. What are they easing?
What was the overnight rate when they started QE3 in 2012?

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations???

Yes. These asset purchases are permanent (for now) open market operations.

They sell the bonds back

They do:

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Since the large interventions started, money-market rates have calmed down. The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

Again you have shown that you have no clue the difference between Repos and QE. It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back. So explain to use what that is called, when they are keeping around $60B a month for 6 months!!!! Because they are clearly not selling the bonds back.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

AHAHAHA!!!!! Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates. You dumb fuck, that is just completely false!!! Now you are just guessing, you don't even know what QE is. QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money, so if they purchase bonds when rates are 1% that somehow is not QE??? dumb fuck.

You never answered my question, what is the difference between an OMO and QE?????????

All this because you can't admit we are doing QE4.

It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back.

Right. They are keeping purchases from their OMOs, but repos are sold back, next day, week, month.

Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates.

Right after you show a link that says every permanent open market purchase is QE.

QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money,

The Fed says you're wrong.

And did you catch this part?

Temporary OMOs are typically used to address reserve needs that are deemed to be transitory in nature. These operations are either repurchase agreements (repos) or reverse repurchase agreements (reverse repos or RRPs). Under a repo, the Trading Desk buys a security under an agreement to resell that security in the future.

Now do you understand what repo means?

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back, as they are clearly keeping them on their balance sheet!!!! Somehow I doubt it. Because you repeatedly, and stupidly, kept saying they sell them back they sell them back, not understanding that they were keeping the treasury bonds on their balance sheet. I can bring up you post and your exact words if I need to.

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.
And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back,

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.

Did you see a difference at the Fed link I provided?​

And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

Sure. As soon as you show where rates were during any QE.

Here we go with your BS again.
Debating you is like debating a child because when you get caught telling lies you try and change the subject.

No the fed is not selling back the $60B a month in treasuries that it is buying for the next 6 months. You stupidly tried to claim they were and are completely wrong, and now you can't admit it!!!

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Thank you for proving my point.

And no it is not in your Fed link, explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE.

And provide a link that says QE is defined by where our interest rates are, you are avoinding my questions.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They sell the bonds back.

Yup. In repos they sell the bonds back, next day or in a week or even a bit longer, depending on the terms of the repo.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet,

Not the repos, you twit.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

What were interest rates in all the QEs before 2008?
Just look at the term, quantitative easing. What are they easing?
What was the overnight rate when they started QE3 in 2012?

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations???

Yes. These asset purchases are permanent (for now) open market operations.

They sell the bonds back

They do:

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Since the large interventions started, money-market rates have calmed down. The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

Again you have shown that you have no clue the difference between Repos and QE. It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back. So explain to use what that is called, when they are keeping around $60B a month for 6 months!!!! Because they are clearly not selling the bonds back.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

AHAHAHA!!!!! Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates. You dumb fuck, that is just completely false!!! Now you are just guessing, you don't even know what QE is. QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money, so if they purchase bonds when rates are 1% that somehow is not QE??? dumb fuck.

You never answered my question, what is the difference between an OMO and QE?????????

All this because you can't admit we are doing QE4.

It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back.

Right. They are keeping purchases from their OMOs, but repos are sold back, next day, week, month.

Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates.

Right after you show a link that says every permanent open market purchase is QE.

QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money,

The Fed says you're wrong.

And did you catch this part?

Temporary OMOs are typically used to address reserve needs that are deemed to be transitory in nature. These operations are either repurchase agreements (repos) or reverse repurchase agreements (reverse repos or RRPs). Under a repo, the Trading Desk buys a security under an agreement to resell that security in the future.

Now do you understand what repo means?

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back, as they are clearly keeping them on their balance sheet!!!! Somehow I doubt it. Because you repeatedly, and stupidly, kept saying they sell them back they sell them back, not understanding that they were keeping the treasury bonds on their balance sheet. I can bring up you post and your exact words if I need to.

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.
And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back,

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.

Did you see a difference at the Fed link I provided?​

And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

Sure. As soon as you show where rates were during any QE.

Here we go with your BS again.
Debating you is like debating a child because when you get caught telling lies you try and change the subject.

No the fed is not selling back the $60B a month in treasuries that it is buying for the next 6 months. You stupidly tried to claim they were and are completely wrong, and now you can't admit it!!!

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Thank you for proving my point.

And no it is not in your Fed link, explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE.

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

 

[The Banker]

They sell the bonds back

They do:

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Since the large interventions started, money-market rates have calmed down. The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

Again you have shown that you have no clue the difference between Repos and QE. It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back. So explain to use what that is called, when they are keeping around $60B a month for 6 months!!!! Because they are clearly not selling the bonds back.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

AHAHAHA!!!!! Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates. You dumb fuck, that is just completely false!!! Now you are just guessing, you don't even know what QE is. QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money, so if they purchase bonds when rates are 1% that somehow is not QE??? dumb fuck.

You never answered my question, what is the difference between an OMO and QE?????????

All this because you can't admit we are doing QE4.

It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back.

Right. They are keeping purchases from their OMOs, but repos are sold back, next day, week, month.

Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates.

Right after you show a link that says every permanent open market purchase is QE.

QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money,

The Fed says you're wrong.

And did you catch this part?

Temporary OMOs are typically used to address reserve needs that are deemed to be transitory in nature. These operations are either repurchase agreements (repos) or reverse repurchase agreements (reverse repos or RRPs). Under a repo, the Trading Desk buys a security under an agreement to resell that security in the future.

Now do you understand what repo means?

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back, as they are clearly keeping them on their balance sheet!!!! Somehow I doubt it. Because you repeatedly, and stupidly, kept saying they sell them back they sell them back, not understanding that they were keeping the treasury bonds on their balance sheet. I can bring up you post and your exact words if I need to.

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.
And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back,

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.

Did you see a difference at the Fed link I provided?​

And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

Sure. As soon as you show where rates were during any QE.

Here we go with your BS again.
Debating you is like debating a child because when you get caught telling lies you try and change the subject.

No the fed is not selling back the $60B a month in treasuries that it is buying for the next 6 months. You stupidly tried to claim they were and are completely wrong, and now you can't admit it!!!

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Thank you for proving my point.

And no it is not in your Fed link, explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE.

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

The FED is is expanding its balance sheet by more than $60B a month for 6 months, QE. So you are wrong when you say they are "selling the bonds back"

And no it is not in your Fed link, explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE.
you have yet to do this, because you can't.
And provide a link that says QE is defined by where our interest rates are, you are avoiding my questions.

debating you is like debating a clueless child. And stop selectively editing my posts to change the subject.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They sell the bonds back.

Yup. In repos they sell the bonds back, next day or in a week or even a bit longer, depending on the terms of the repo.

No they don't The Fed is buying treasuries and keeping them on their balance sheet,

Not the repos, you twit.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

What were interest rates in all the QEs before 2008?
Just look at the term, quantitative easing. What are they easing?
What was the overnight rate when they started QE3 in 2012?

Now you are trying to say they are just doing open market operations???

Yes. These asset purchases are permanent (for now) open market operations.

They sell the bonds back

They do:

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Since the large interventions started, money-market rates have calmed down. The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

Again you have shown that you have no clue the difference between Repos and QE. It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back. So explain to use what that is called, when they are keeping around $60B a month for 6 months!!!! Because they are clearly not selling the bonds back.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

AHAHAHA!!!!! Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates. You dumb fuck, that is just completely false!!! Now you are just guessing, you don't even know what QE is. QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money, so if they purchase bonds when rates are 1% that somehow is not QE??? dumb fuck.

You never answered my question, what is the difference between an OMO and QE?????????

All this because you can't admit we are doing QE4.

It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back.

Right. They are keeping purchases from their OMOs, but repos are sold back, next day, week, month.

Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates.

Right after you show a link that says every permanent open market purchase is QE.

QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money,

The Fed says you're wrong.

And did you catch this part?

Temporary OMOs are typically used to address reserve needs that are deemed to be transitory in nature. These operations are either repurchase agreements (repos) or reverse repurchase agreements (reverse repos or RRPs). Under a repo, the Trading Desk buys a security under an agreement to resell that security in the future.

Now do you understand what repo means?

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back, as they are clearly keeping them on their balance sheet!!!! Somehow I doubt it. Because you repeatedly, and stupidly, kept saying they sell them back they sell them back, not understanding that they were keeping the treasury bonds on their balance sheet. I can bring up you post and your exact words if I need to.

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.
And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back,

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.

Did you see a difference at the Fed link I provided?​

And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

Sure. As soon as you show where rates were during any QE.

Here we go with your BS again.
Debating you is like debating a child because when you get caught telling lies you try and change the subject.

No the fed is not selling back the $60B a month in treasuries that it is buying for the next 6 months. You stupidly tried to claim they were and are completely wrong, and now you can't admit it!!!

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Thank you for proving my point.

And no it is not in your Fed link, explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE.

And provide a link that says QE is defined by where our interest rates are, you are avoinding my questions.

And provide a link that says QE is defined by where our interest rates are, you are avoinding my questions

What Is Quantitative Easing?
Quantitative easing is an unconventional monetary policy in which a central bank purchases government securities or other securities from the market in order to increase the money supply and encourage lending and investment. When short-term interest rates are at or approaching zero, normal open market operations, which target interest rates, are no longer effective, so instead a central bank can target specified amounts of assets to purchase. Quantitative easing increases the money supply by purchasing assets with newly created bank reserves in order to provide banks with more liquidity.

Quantitative Easing Definition

Are you still running away from your Obama stock performance claims?
Don't be a pussy your whole life.......

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back.

Right. They are keeping purchases from their OMOs, but repos are sold back, next day, week, month.

Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates.

Right after you show a link that says every permanent open market purchase is QE.

QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money,

The Fed says you're wrong.

And did you catch this part?

Temporary OMOs are typically used to address reserve needs that are deemed to be transitory in nature. These operations are either repurchase agreements (repos) or reverse repurchase agreements (reverse repos or RRPs). Under a repo, the Trading Desk buys a security under an agreement to resell that security in the future.

Now do you understand what repo means?

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back, as they are clearly keeping them on their balance sheet!!!! Somehow I doubt it. Because you repeatedly, and stupidly, kept saying they sell them back they sell them back, not understanding that they were keeping the treasury bonds on their balance sheet. I can bring up you post and your exact words if I need to.

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.
And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back,

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.

Did you see a difference at the Fed link I provided?​

And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

Sure. As soon as you show where rates were during any QE.

Here we go with your BS again.
Debating you is like debating a child because when you get caught telling lies you try and change the subject.

No the fed is not selling back the $60B a month in treasuries that it is buying for the next 6 months. You stupidly tried to claim they were and are completely wrong, and now you can't admit it!!!

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Thank you for proving my point.

And no it is not in your Fed link, explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE.

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

The FED is is expanding its balance sheet by more than $60B a month for 6 months, QE. So you are wrong when you say they are "selling the bonds back"

And no it is not in your Fed link, explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE.
you have yet to do this, because you can't.
And provide a link that says QE is defined by where our interest rates are, you are avoinding my questions.

So yes, one day liquidity is reversed when the Fed sells the bonds back?

 

[The Banker]

They sell the bonds back

They do:

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Since the large interventions started, money-market rates have calmed down. The Fed is using temporary operations to tamp down any possible wild moves, while purchasing Treasury bills to build up reserves in the banking system. It hopes that by buying Treasury bills, the central bank will be able to cut back on repo interventions at the start of next year.

Again you have shown that you have no clue the difference between Repos and QE. It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back. So explain to use what that is called, when they are keeping around $60B a month for 6 months!!!! Because they are clearly not selling the bonds back.

What does that even mean that QE is defined by where our interest rates are????

Yes, pretty much.

AHAHAHA!!!!! Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates. You dumb fuck, that is just completely false!!! Now you are just guessing, you don't even know what QE is. QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money, so if they purchase bonds when rates are 1% that somehow is not QE??? dumb fuck.

You never answered my question, what is the difference between an OMO and QE?????????

All this because you can't admit we are doing QE4.

It says right there they are keeping around $60 B a month on their balance sheet, and not selling them back.

Right. They are keeping purchases from their OMOs, but repos are sold back, next day, week, month.

Show us a link that says QE is defined by our interest rates.

Right after you show a link that says every permanent open market purchase is QE.

QE is defined by the act of purchasing bonds with newly created money,

The Fed says you're wrong.

And did you catch this part?

Temporary OMOs are typically used to address reserve needs that are deemed to be transitory in nature. These operations are either repurchase agreements (repos) or reverse repurchase agreements (reverse repos or RRPs). Under a repo, the Trading Desk buys a security under an agreement to resell that security in the future.

Now do you understand what repo means?

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back, as they are clearly keeping them on their balance sheet!!!! Somehow I doubt it. Because you repeatedly, and stupidly, kept saying they sell them back they sell them back, not understanding that they were keeping the treasury bonds on their balance sheet. I can bring up you post and your exact words if I need to.

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.
And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

So you are ready to admit you are wrong when you said they are selling the bonds back,

Fed Pumps $70.1 Billion in One-Day Liquidity Into Financial Markets

Is the Fed selling back these $70.1 billion?

Again explain to us what the difference is between an OMO and QE, which you still haven't done.

Did you see a difference at the Fed link I provided?​

And show us where QE is defined by where our interest rates are.

Sure. As soon as you show where rates were during any QE.

Here we go with your BS again.
Debating you is like debating a child because when you get caught telling lies you try and change the subject.

No the fed is not selling back the $60B a month in treasuries that it is buying for the next 6 months. You stupidly tried to claim they were and are completely wrong, and now you can't admit it!!!

In early October, the Fed also said it would start expanding its balance sheet again via around $60 billion a month in Treasury bill purchases, hoping the addition of permanent liquidity would allow it to back away from large temporary interventions.

Thank you for proving my point.

And no it is not in your Fed link, explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE.

And provide a link that says QE is defined by where our interest rates are, you are avoinding my questions.

And provide a link that says QE is defined by where our interest rates are, you are avoinding my questions

What Is Quantitative Easing?
Quantitative easing is an unconventional monetary policy in which a central bank purchases government securities or other securities from the market in order to increase the money supply and encourage lending and investment. When short-term interest rates are at or approaching zero, normal open market operations, which target interest rates, are no longer effective, so instead a central bank can target specified amounts of assets to purchase. Quantitative easing increases the money supply by purchasing assets with newly created bank reserves in order to provide banks with more liquidity.

Quantitative Easing Definition

Are you still running away from your Obama stock performance claims?
Don't be a pussy your whole life.......

So interest rates are approaching zero, so when a central bank purchases government securities or other securities from the market in order to increase the money supply and encourage lending and investment. (as it says in your link) that is the definition of QE. SO are you trying to argue that what we are doing is not QE because of where our interest rates are? Because that is a false statement.

And explain to us the difference between an OMO and QE, I can do it in a few sentences. And when you do this, you will realize we are doing QE.

All this nonsense because you can't admit we are doing QE again, which everyone has admitted, but you.