Zone1 The Great Feminization-by Helen Andrews

[martybegan]

This is an article currently making its way around the right leaning web. The gist of the article is that as women become the majority in certain professions and institutions, the way those professions and institutions function changes, and not for the better. The author sees wokeism not as socialist, but inherently feminine.

The Great Feminization

Some of the bigger points.

The essay argued that it wasn’t just that women had cancelled the president of Harvard; it was that they’d cancelled him in a very feminine way. They made emotional appeals rather than logical arguments. “When he started talking about innate differences in aptitude between men and women, I just couldn’t breathe because this kind of bias makes me physically ill,” said Nancy Hopkins, a biologist at MIT. Summers made a public statement clarifying his remarks, and then another, and then a third, with the apology more insistent each time. Experts chimed in to declare that everything Summers had said about sex differences was within the scientific mainstream. These rational appeals had no effect on the mob hysteria.

The substance fits, too. Everything you think of as wokeness involves prioritizing the feminine over the masculine: empathy over rationality, safety over risk, cohesion over competition. Other writers who have proposed their own versions of the Great Feminization thesis, such as Noah Carl or Bo Winegard and Cory Clark, who looked at feminization’s effects on academia, offer survey data showing sex differences in political values. One survey, for example, found that 71 percent of men said protecting free speech was more important than preserving a cohesive society, and 59 percent of women said the opposite.

The most relevant differences are not about individuals but about groups. In my experience, individuals are unique and you come across outliers who defy stereotypes every day, but groups of men and women display consistent differences.

Men tend to be better at compartmentalizing than women, and wokeness was in many ways a society-wide failure to compartmentalize. Traditionally, an individual doctor might have opinions on the political issues of the day but he would regard it as his professional duty to keep those opinions out of the examination room. Now that medicine has become more feminized, doctors wear pins and lanyards expressing views on controversial issues from gay rights to Gaza. They even bring the credibility of their profession to bear on political fads, as when doctors said Black Lives Matter protests could continue in violation of Covid lockdowns because racism was a public health emergency.

 

[1srelluc]

I can't speak to most of that but around here if you see someone sporting political regalia at the hospital you can turn them in and it will soon be gone.

They put up a "pride" banner during "their month" two years ago, someone complained, and it was gone the same day....It was not put up the next year at all.

Sometimes you just have to make your displeasure known....Women don't run everything.

 

[martybegan]

I can't speak to most of that but around here if you see someone sporting political regalia at the hospital you can turn them in and it will soon be gone.

They put up a "pride" banner during "their month" two years ago, someone complained, and it was gone the same day....It was not put up the next year at all.

Sometimes you just have to make your displeasure known....Women don't run everything.

I've seen the "HR lady" effect at my workplaces the past decade or so. I'm also in NYC which sees these things before other parts of the country.

Remember this article was written by a woman, here is her ending paragraph.

As a woman myself, I am grateful for the opportunities I have had to pursue a career in writing and editing. Thankfully, I don’t think solving the feminization problem requires us to shut any doors in women’s faces. We simply have to restore fair rules. Right now we have a nominally meritocratic system in which it is illegal for women to lose. Let’s make hiring meritocratic in substance and not just name, and we will see how it shakes out. Make it legal to have a masculine office culture again. Remove the HR lady’s veto power. I think people will be surprised to discover how much of our current feminization is attributable to institutional changes like the advent of HR, which were brought about by legal changes and which legal changes can reverse.

Because, after all, I am not just a woman. I am also someone with a lot of disagreeable opinions, who will find it hard to flourish if society becomes more conflict-averse and consensus-driven. I am the mother of sons, who will never reach their full potential if they have to grow up in a feminized world. I am—we all are—dependent on institutions like the legal system, scientific research, and democratic politics that support the American way of life, and we will all suffer if they cease to perform the tasks they were designed to do.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I've seen the "HR lady" effect at my workplaces the past decade or so. I'm also in NYC which sees these things before other parts of the country.

Remember this article was written by a woman, here is her ending paragraph.

I didnt realise I was such a victim.

 

[martybegan]

I didnt realise I was such a victim.

This is zone 1 tommy, try harder.

 

[martybegan]

Its just a whine thread. Hard to take seriously.

Dismissal isn't discussion. Go back to the taunt areas where you know how to function.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Its just a whine thread. Hard to take seriously.

The essential OP theory is that when women take over, things become bad. Ok. Women didn't invent the gulag, concentration camps, World War I, World War II, child brides, rape as public policy, burning at the stake, etc.

 

[martybegan]

The essential OP theory is that when women take over, things become bad. Ok. Women didn't invent the gulag, concentration camps, World War I, World War II etc.

The OP is saying that certain institutions and organizations lose their focus and their intent when feminized.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The essential OP theory is that when women take over, things become bad. Ok. Women didn't invent the gulag, concentration camps, World War I, World War II, child brides, rape as public policy, burning at the stake, etc.

It just seems another GOP anti women thread. Its as dumb as you can get.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It just seems another GOP anti women thread. Its as dumb as you can get.

It is.

 

[martybegan]

It is.

Written by a woman.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Written by a woman.

I am sure you think that means something.

Women didn't create:
-Slavery in the US
-Jim Crow
-Robber Barons
-No healthcare for mothers
-The Rwanda slaughter
-Tamerlame's towers of skulls
-Isil and Al Qaeda
-Sexually assaulting women in a department store changing room
-Epstein Island
-Cutting the hands off islanders for not bringing in enough gold to Columbus
-Global Thermonuclear War
-Neo Nazis
-Nazis
-The KKK

Shall we continue?

 

[martybegan]

I am sure you think that means something.

Women didn't create:
-Slavery in the US
-Jim Crow
-Robber Barons
-No healthcare for mothers
-The Rwanda slaughter
-Tamerlame's towers of skulls
-Isil and Al Qaeda
-Sexually assaulting women in a department store changing room
-Epstein Island
-Cutting the hands off islanders for not bringing in enough gold to Columbus
-Global Thermonuclear War
-Neo Nazis
-Nazis
-The KKK

Shall we continue?

She isn't saying men have never created problems, she is saying the mass way women go about things is creating problems in specific institutions.

But keep deflecting to the past to avoid discussing problems with the present.

 

[Zincwarrior]

She isn't saying men have never created problems, she is saying the mass way women go about things is creating problems in specific institutions.

But keep deflecting to the past to avoid discussing problems with the present.

Then she and those who agree are idiot incels and need to neuter themselves before they harm the human race by spreading their genes.

Women didn't decide to invade Ukraine.
Women didn't invent Zykon B and decide to use it on people.
Women didn't invade Nanking.

 

[martybegan]

Then she and those who agree are idiot incels and need to neuter themselves before they harm the human race by spreading their genes.

Women didn't decide to invade Ukraine.
Women didn't invent Zykon B and decide to use it on people.
Women didn't invade Nanking.

Again with deflecting off the point being made instead of discussing the issue at hand.

One of the arguments made by her is the legal profession will go away from rules and more towards "feels".

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[Mac-7]

It just seems another GOP anti women thread. Its as dumb as you can get.

Lets wait a see how feminization of institutions works out for the Brits

Your country is being taken over by islam which is very male centered

White guilt-ridden Karens in burkas is going to be very strange

 

[Lockback]

The essential OP theory is that when women take over, things become bad. Ok. Women didn't invent the gulag, concentration camps, World War I, World War II, child brides, rape as public policy, burning at the stake, etc.

Oh, how DEI of you.
And Mao's wife killed more people than probably anybody in history.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Oh, how DEI of you.
And Mao's wife killed more people than probably anybody in history.

Mao's wife had no power without Mao.

I guess the institution of motherhood is truly terrible. I mean, they have been in charge literally forever.
This is white basement dwelling incel bullshit.

 

[Lockback]

Mao's wife had no power without Mao.

I guess the institution of motherhood is truly terrible. I mean, they have been in charge literally forever.
This is white basement dwelling incel bullshit.

I've never seen a manly man at an Antifa riot.
Democrats radiate femininity.

 

[martybegan]

Mao's wife had no power without Mao.

I guess the institution of motherhood is truly terrible. I mean, they have been in charge literally forever.
This is white basement dwelling incel bullshit.

Again with deflection.

And motherhood is under attack from the left, not the right.