The GOP and the Markers of Fascism

[Dragonlady]

ROFL

The democrats are a full blown Nazi Reich, and you post this moronic shit?

He paid the real Toro good money for that account

Seriously? What happened to that dude? Wasn't there a time when he wasn't a bitter, batshit crazy democrat?

A lot of people developed drug abuse problems during the soul crushing democrat lock downs in response to the Wuhan Designer Virus.

Americans wouldn't have had 10 months of locks downs if you had just locked down in the spring and stayed locked down until June - like Canada. By July, we had 200 cases a day - equivalent to 2000 cases a day in the USA. 1/10th of what you had when the USA started re-opening. You had 1 or 2 days below 20,000 cases and then bang - you fully re-opened. No phased re-opening at all.

Canada stayed re-opened until December 24th, but cases were getting out of hand and with a post-holiday spike expected, lockdown started Christmas Eve. From a peak of just under 12,000 cases on January 3rd, we had 4000 new cases yesterday. Active cases have dropped like a stone from a peak of 83,000 cases, to 58,000 today. Active US cases are likely to hit 10,000,000 this week - more than 15 times the rate of Canada.

We're having mental health issues too. I have a friend who says his drinking is getting out of hand. I've seen marriages fall apart among my family and friends too. I have a support group of 5 other single friends who all live alone, and we're on Messenger all day long, back and forthing for support.

Being productive is hard when we don't know what the new normal will look like, and consequently what we should be doing as a result. I haven't seen my grandkids since early December. I normally spend a couple days a week with them. I'm counting the days to my vaccination.

 

[themirrorthief]

No, the GOP is not a fascist party. But it is demonstrating nascent fascist markers.

Robert O. Paxton, in his 2004 book The Anatomy of Fascism, provides these hallmarks: “obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity”; involving “a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites”; which “abandons democratic liberties”; and “pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing. . . .”​

​

These phrases more readily evoke brownshirts on Kristallnacht than fervent Republicans; writing in Vox, Dylan Matthews draws some useful distinctions.​

​

But consider the predicates of nascent fascism.​

​

Trump relentlessly exploited a sense of decline, humiliation, and victimization among marginalized whites, even as he evoked America’s loss of strength and purity. His supporters’ “redemptive violence” at our capital was preceded in Michigan, as one example, by armed incursion the state legislature and an abortive effort to kidnap and execute the governor. While claiming to protect democracy, the GOP persistently undermines the right of disfavored groups to vote.​

​

Though nothing in America equals the predictive virulence of German anti-Semitism, anger at the racial, societal, and religious other animates a goodly portion of the Republican base. Its loathing of supposedly degenerate liberalism provides another link—as does the desire for authoritarian leadership to restore their chosen hierarchy.​

​

Perhaps most salient is the attack on reality itself. “Post-truth,” writes Timothy Snyder, “is pre-fascism.” Hitler castigated the media as “enemies of the people”; so does Trump and, often, his party. Like the avatars of fascism, Republicans increasingly trumpet mendacious propaganda—including about voter fraud.​

​

Classical fascism conditions its followers to accept “the big lie” which unifies their discontents and justifies their leaders’ actions. So, in 2020, did the GOP.​

​

Granted that the big Republican lie did not equal Hitler’s poisonous assertion that perfidious Jews stabbed Germany in the back. But the GOP’s lie to its base was, nonetheless, breathtakingly ambitious: that an unfathomable conspiracy involving thousands of state and local officials and judges, many Republicans, had stolen the presidency from Donald Trump—from them.​

​

To believe this, one must not only distrust an electoral system dispersed across 50 states and countless localities—and everyone in it—but reject an overwhelming amount of easily available evidence and the dictates of common sense. Yet most Republicans did just that. In their collective mind, the GOP was cheated by perfidious forces, and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president. The dangerous myth of political dispossession is now embedded in the Republican narrative. ...​

The GOP’s ‘Pre-Fascist’ DNA

The term “fascist” is too often thrown around carelessly—but it can be helpful in explaining the direction of the Republican party.

thebulwark.com

Nazi stands for National SOCIALIST workers party...bernie and Aoc are nazis

 

[Dragonlady]

That's because facism will not tolerate or allow criticism or disagreement.

So you fully agree that democrats are fascist

Democracy will not allow lying, and facists refuse to tell the truth.

That is a moronic claim.

Every day in this forum, right wingers wish death on the left. They whine their fake grievances claiming the right to discrimate against, deny service to, and treat as 2nd class citizens, gays, racial minorities, and religions other than the one they profess to believe in.

If we ignore that you're flat out fucking lying, that in fact it is you Nazis who deny basic civil rights based on color, that it is you Nazis who relegate the white devils you so bitterly hate to an underclass, to be denied employment, admission in education, and the right to speak because of the color of our skin.

For 10 months you have engaged in prolonged violence with your insurgency, murdering 40 people including police officers, raping women and even homeless men, looting billions of dollars, burning thousands of small businesses with your Kristalnacht.

Furthermore, the demands of the right, that you allow them to send their children to whites only schools, where they are taught Creationism, that the earth is 6000 years old, and science is whack, are creating a generation of young white people who feel entitled to rule the world on the basis of their white exceptionalism.

Don't you Nazis demand that schools be free of whites? That colored people be provided an environment where they are safe from the inferior race that you so bitterly hate?

The entire Ivy League is turning out these condescending a$$hats by the thousands, leading directly to 3 Republican economic crashes as they pursue profits above all else and without consideration of the broader social implications of doing so. Back in the 1970's, when I was applying to the UWO School of Business, modelled on Harvard, and one of the top Business Schools in the world, I read an opinion piece which said that the Harvard School of Business graduates would bring down the American economy, precisely because it was too bottom line focussed.

Ethics, social responsibility, and harm to the community were all secondary to profits. Vulture capitalist bought, dismantled and sold off corporations, piece by piece, making their profits on the sale of the land and buildings, the equipment, and remaining stocks, spinning off profitable subsidiaries, but leaving one industry towns, with no jobs, no income, and no future.

It is time to restore ethics in business and in politics. Stop the lying. Give everyone a fair piece of the pie, instead of giving it all to the wealthy and leaving hard working Americans needing government assistance to feed their families. Nobody working 40 hours a week should need a government handout to pay basic living expenses. Wages should cover basic food and lodgings, at the very least.

Especially when Amazon, which uses millions of dollars worth of public roads, transportation infrastructure, and requires tens of thousands of highly educated workers, pays nothing for all of these services which the government provides. Not to mention IT patent and trademark protections, private property protections, and international trade agreements provide the corporate infratstructure, and business climate to succeed.

Reward working Americans instead of just wealthy Americans. The workers are hurting. The wealthy are not.

You rarely tell the truth, and this is no exception.

Virtually nothing in your hate filled bigotry has any relation to reality.
We get it, you hate white people and want to eradicate the entire race. The Reich has taught you that all problems, past and present are because of the inferior race you so bitterly hate. The Reich has you focused on the idea that every wrong, every ill, every injustice, is because of the white race. You are justified in your hatred, and the Reich media confirms it with every TV show you watch. The little Goebbels confirm that the whites, Der Juden, are the enemy you must focus on.

You will certainly devise a final solution to the problem.

There was literally NOTHING in my post that was hate filled or bigotted, and it is entirely grounded in reality.

I AM NOT AN AMERICAN AND PEOPLE WATCHING FROM OUTSIDE ARE SEEING EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH RIGHT WING TERRORISM, WHITE FACISM AND REPUBLICANS.

You're being lied to by the right wing media, and the Republican Party. If you watched something other than FOX News, you'd know that.

 

[themirrorthief]

Biden is just a senile old man who is barely conscious of where he is at any given time

 

[themirrorthief]

That's because facism will not tolerate or allow criticism or disagreement.

So you fully agree that democrats are fascist

Democracy will not allow lying, and facists refuse to tell the truth.

That is a moronic claim.

Every day in this forum, right wingers wish death on the left. They whine their fake grievances claiming the right to discrimate against, deny service to, and treat as 2nd class citizens, gays, racial minorities, and religions other than the one they profess to believe in.

If we ignore that you're flat out fucking lying, that in fact it is you Nazis who deny basic civil rights based on color, that it is you Nazis who relegate the white devils you so bitterly hate to an underclass, to be denied employment, admission in education, and the right to speak because of the color of our skin.

For 10 months you have engaged in prolonged violence with your insurgency, murdering 40 people including police officers, raping women and even homeless men, looting billions of dollars, burning thousands of small businesses with your Kristalnacht.

Furthermore, the demands of the right, that you allow them to send their children to whites only schools, where they are taught Creationism, that the earth is 6000 years old, and science is whack, are creating a generation of young white people who feel entitled to rule the world on the basis of their white exceptionalism.

Don't you Nazis demand that schools be free of whites? That colored people be provided an environment where they are safe from the inferior race that you so bitterly hate?

The entire Ivy League is turning out these condescending a$$hats by the thousands, leading directly to 3 Republican economic crashes as they pursue profits above all else and without consideration of the broader social implications of doing so. Back in the 1970's, when I was applying to the UWO School of Business, modelled on Harvard, and one of the top Business Schools in the world, I read an opinion piece which said that the Harvard School of Business graduates would bring down the American economy, precisely because it was too bottom line focussed.

Ethics, social responsibility, and harm to the community were all secondary to profits. Vulture capitalist bought, dismantled and sold off corporations, piece by piece, making their profits on the sale of the land and buildings, the equipment, and remaining stocks, spinning off profitable subsidiaries, but leaving one industry towns, with no jobs, no income, and no future.

It is time to restore ethics in business and in politics. Stop the lying. Give everyone a fair piece of the pie, instead of giving it all to the wealthy and leaving hard working Americans needing government assistance to feed their families. Nobody working 40 hours a week should need a government handout to pay basic living expenses. Wages should cover basic food and lodgings, at the very least.

Especially when Amazon, which uses millions of dollars worth of public roads, transportation infrastructure, and requires tens of thousands of highly educated workers, pays nothing for all of these services which the government provides. Not to mention IT patent and trademark protections, private property protections, and international trade agreements provide the corporate infratstructure, and business climate to succeed.

Reward working Americans instead of just wealthy Americans. The workers are hurting. The wealthy are not.

You rarely tell the truth, and this is no exception.

Virtually nothing in your hate filled bigotry has any relation to reality.
We get it, you hate white people and want to eradicate the entire race. The Reich has taught you that all problems, past and present are because of the inferior race you so bitterly hate. The Reich has you focused on the idea that every wrong, every ill, every injustice, is because of the white race. You are justified in your hatred, and the Reich media confirms it with every TV show you watch. The little Goebbels confirm that the whites, Der Juden, are the enemy you must focus on.

You will certainly devise a final solution to the problem.

There was literally NOTHING in my post that was hate filled or bigotted, and it is entirely grounded in reality.

I AM NOT AN AMERICAN AND PEOPLE WATCHING FROM OUTSIDE ARE SEEING EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH RIGHT WING TERRORISM, WHITE FACISM AND REPUBLICANS.

You're being lied to by the right wing media, and the Republican Party. If you watched something other than FOX News, you'd know that.

its true that democrats have the edge on propaganda outlets...they are so many

 

[Dragonlady]

No, the GOP is not a fascist party. But it is demonstrating nascent fascist markers.

Robert O. Paxton, in his 2004 book The Anatomy of Fascism, provides these hallmarks: “obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity”; involving “a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites”; which “abandons democratic liberties”; and “pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing. . . .”​

​

These phrases more readily evoke brownshirts on Kristallnacht than fervent Republicans; writing in Vox, Dylan Matthews draws some useful distinctions.​

​

But consider the predicates of nascent fascism.​

​

Trump relentlessly exploited a sense of decline, humiliation, and victimization among marginalized whites, even as he evoked America’s loss of strength and purity. His supporters’ “redemptive violence” at our capital was preceded in Michigan, as one example, by armed incursion the state legislature and an abortive effort to kidnap and execute the governor. While claiming to protect democracy, the GOP persistently undermines the right of disfavored groups to vote.​

​

Though nothing in America equals the predictive virulence of German anti-Semitism, anger at the racial, societal, and religious other animates a goodly portion of the Republican base. Its loathing of supposedly degenerate liberalism provides another link—as does the desire for authoritarian leadership to restore their chosen hierarchy.​

​

Perhaps most salient is the attack on reality itself. “Post-truth,” writes Timothy Snyder, “is pre-fascism.” Hitler castigated the media as “enemies of the people”; so does Trump and, often, his party. Like the avatars of fascism, Republicans increasingly trumpet mendacious propaganda—including about voter fraud.​

​

Classical fascism conditions its followers to accept “the big lie” which unifies their discontents and justifies their leaders’ actions. So, in 2020, did the GOP.​

​

Granted that the big Republican lie did not equal Hitler’s poisonous assertion that perfidious Jews stabbed Germany in the back. But the GOP’s lie to its base was, nonetheless, breathtakingly ambitious: that an unfathomable conspiracy involving thousands of state and local officials and judges, many Republicans, had stolen the presidency from Donald Trump—from them.​

​

To believe this, one must not only distrust an electoral system dispersed across 50 states and countless localities—and everyone in it—but reject an overwhelming amount of easily available evidence and the dictates of common sense. Yet most Republicans did just that. In their collective mind, the GOP was cheated by perfidious forces, and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president. The dangerous myth of political dispossession is now embedded in the Republican narrative. ...​

The GOP’s ‘Pre-Fascist’ DNA

The term “fascist” is too often thrown around carelessly—but it can be helpful in explaining the direction of the Republican party.

thebulwark.com

Nazi stands for National SOCIALIST workers party...bernie and Aoc are nazis

NAZI's were not socialists. It was just the name of the party they took over. Hitler wanted to change the name of the party but Goebbels thought it was a good idea to make workers think they were on their side, so they kept it.

Were the Nazis Socialists?

What’s the difference between National Socialists and every other kind of socialist?

www.britannica.com

Trumpists Terrorists aren't Republicans either. It's just the name of the party they took over.

 

[Turtlesoup]

No, the GOP is not a fascist party. But it is demonstrating nascent fascist markers.

Robert O. Paxton, in his 2004 book The Anatomy of Fascism, provides these hallmarks: “obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity”; involving “a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites”; which “abandons democratic liberties”; and “pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing. . . .”​

​

These phrases more readily evoke brownshirts on Kristallnacht than fervent Republicans; writing in Vox, Dylan Matthews draws some useful distinctions.​

​

But consider the predicates of nascent fascism.​

​

Trump relentlessly exploited a sense of decline, humiliation, and victimization among marginalized whites, even as he evoked America’s loss of strength and purity. His supporters’ “redemptive violence” at our capital was preceded in Michigan, as one example, by armed incursion the state legislature and an abortive effort to kidnap and execute the governor. While claiming to protect democracy, the GOP persistently undermines the right of disfavored groups to vote.​

​

Though nothing in America equals the predictive virulence of German anti-Semitism, anger at the racial, societal, and religious other animates a goodly portion of the Republican base. Its loathing of supposedly degenerate liberalism provides another link—as does the desire for authoritarian leadership to restore their chosen hierarchy.​

​

Perhaps most salient is the attack on reality itself. “Post-truth,” writes Timothy Snyder, “is pre-fascism.” Hitler castigated the media as “enemies of the people”; so does Trump and, often, his party. Like the avatars of fascism, Republicans increasingly trumpet mendacious propaganda—including about voter fraud.​

​

Classical fascism conditions its followers to accept “the big lie” which unifies their discontents and justifies their leaders’ actions. So, in 2020, did the GOP.​

​

Granted that the big Republican lie did not equal Hitler’s poisonous assertion that perfidious Jews stabbed Germany in the back. But the GOP’s lie to its base was, nonetheless, breathtakingly ambitious: that an unfathomable conspiracy involving thousands of state and local officials and judges, many Republicans, had stolen the presidency from Donald Trump—from them.​

​

To believe this, one must not only distrust an electoral system dispersed across 50 states and countless localities—and everyone in it—but reject an overwhelming amount of easily available evidence and the dictates of common sense. Yet most Republicans did just that. In their collective mind, the GOP was cheated by perfidious forces, and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president. The dangerous myth of political dispossession is now embedded in the Republican narrative. ...​

The GOP’s ‘Pre-Fascist’ DNA

The term “fascist” is too often thrown around carelessly—but it can be helpful in explaining the direction of the Republican party.

thebulwark.com

They aren’t fascists?nah. They’re just ok with them

No, atleast part of the right--the trumpers have been trying to get rid of the fascists as Pelosi, comey, the chinese, and the corrupt globalist billionaires and their bought and paid for lib media sought to destroy trump and his supporters for it.

 

[Dragonlady]

Biden is just a senile old man who is barely conscious of where he is at any given time

Posting false narratives and stupid shit on your first day here.

 

[Vel]

That's because facism will not tolerate or allow criticism or disagreement.

So you fully agree that democrats are fascist

Democracy will not allow lying, and facists refuse to tell the truth.

That is a moronic claim.

Every day in this forum, right wingers wish death on the left. They whine their fake grievances claiming the right to discrimate against, deny service to, and treat as 2nd class citizens, gays, racial minorities, and religions other than the one they profess to believe in.

If we ignore that you're flat out fucking lying, that in fact it is you Nazis who deny basic civil rights based on color, that it is you Nazis who relegate the white devils you so bitterly hate to an underclass, to be denied employment, admission in education, and the right to speak because of the color of our skin.

For 10 months you have engaged in prolonged violence with your insurgency, murdering 40 people including police officers, raping women and even homeless men, looting billions of dollars, burning thousands of small businesses with your Kristalnacht.

Furthermore, the demands of the right, that you allow them to send their children to whites only schools, where they are taught Creationism, that the earth is 6000 years old, and science is whack, are creating a generation of young white people who feel entitled to rule the world on the basis of their white exceptionalism.

Don't you Nazis demand that schools be free of whites? That colored people be provided an environment where they are safe from the inferior race that you so bitterly hate?

The entire Ivy League is turning out these condescending a$$hats by the thousands, leading directly to 3 Republican economic crashes as they pursue profits above all else and without consideration of the broader social implications of doing so. Back in the 1970's, when I was applying to the UWO School of Business, modelled on Harvard, and one of the top Business Schools in the world, I read an opinion piece which said that the Harvard School of Business graduates would bring down the American economy, precisely because it was too bottom line focussed.

Ethics, social responsibility, and harm to the community were all secondary to profits. Vulture capitalist bought, dismantled and sold off corporations, piece by piece, making their profits on the sale of the land and buildings, the equipment, and remaining stocks, spinning off profitable subsidiaries, but leaving one industry towns, with no jobs, no income, and no future.

It is time to restore ethics in business and in politics. Stop the lying. Give everyone a fair piece of the pie, instead of giving it all to the wealthy and leaving hard working Americans needing government assistance to feed their families. Nobody working 40 hours a week should need a government handout to pay basic living expenses. Wages should cover basic food and lodgings, at the very least.

Especially when Amazon, which uses millions of dollars worth of public roads, transportation infrastructure, and requires tens of thousands of highly educated workers, pays nothing for all of these services which the government provides. Not to mention IT patent and trademark protections, private property protections, and international trade agreements provide the corporate infratstructure, and business climate to succeed.

Reward working Americans instead of just wealthy Americans. The workers are hurting. The wealthy are not.

You rarely tell the truth, and this is no exception.

Virtually nothing in your hate filled bigotry has any relation to reality.
We get it, you hate white people and want to eradicate the entire race. The Reich has taught you that all problems, past and present are because of the inferior race you so bitterly hate. The Reich has you focused on the idea that every wrong, every ill, every injustice, is because of the white race. You are justified in your hatred, and the Reich media confirms it with every TV show you watch. The little Goebbels confirm that the whites, Der Juden, are the enemy you must focus on.

You will certainly devise a final solution to the problem.

There was literally NOTHING in my post that was hate filled or bigotted, and it is entirely grounded in reality.

I AM NOT AN AMERICAN AND PEOPLE WATCHING FROM OUTSIDE ARE SEEING EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH RIGHT WING TERRORISM, WHITE FACISM AND REPUBLICANS.

You're being lied to by the right wing media, and the Republican Party. If you watched something other than FOX News, you'd know that.

As we watched Canadian police go into someone's home for having 6 people gather together, please don't expect Americans to take advice from Canada. You folks gave up your freedom long ago and now simply exist as children or pets to the Canadian government. Following Canada's lead is a fast route to eviscerating the U.S. Constitution. No thanks.

 

[Pogo]

No, the GOP is not a fascist party. But it is demonstrating nascent fascist markers.

Robert O. Paxton, in his 2004 book The Anatomy of Fascism, provides these hallmarks: “obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity”; involving “a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites”; which “abandons democratic liberties”; and “pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing. . . .”​

​

These phrases more readily evoke brownshirts on Kristallnacht than fervent Republicans; writing in Vox, Dylan Matthews draws some useful distinctions.​

​

But consider the predicates of nascent fascism.​

​

Trump relentlessly exploited a sense of decline, humiliation, and victimization among marginalized whites, even as he evoked America’s loss of strength and purity. His supporters’ “redemptive violence” at our capital was preceded in Michigan, as one example, by armed incursion the state legislature and an abortive effort to kidnap and execute the governor. While claiming to protect democracy, the GOP persistently undermines the right of disfavored groups to vote.​

​

Though nothing in America equals the predictive virulence of German anti-Semitism, anger at the racial, societal, and religious other animates a goodly portion of the Republican base. Its loathing of supposedly degenerate liberalism provides another link—as does the desire for authoritarian leadership to restore their chosen hierarchy.​

​

Perhaps most salient is the attack on reality itself. “Post-truth,” writes Timothy Snyder, “is pre-fascism.” Hitler castigated the media as “enemies of the people”; so does Trump and, often, his party. Like the avatars of fascism, Republicans increasingly trumpet mendacious propaganda—including about voter fraud.​

​

Classical fascism conditions its followers to accept “the big lie” which unifies their discontents and justifies their leaders’ actions. So, in 2020, did the GOP.​

​

Granted that the big Republican lie did not equal Hitler’s poisonous assertion that perfidious Jews stabbed Germany in the back. But the GOP’s lie to its base was, nonetheless, breathtakingly ambitious: that an unfathomable conspiracy involving thousands of state and local officials and judges, many Republicans, had stolen the presidency from Donald Trump—from them.​

​

To believe this, one must not only distrust an electoral system dispersed across 50 states and countless localities—and everyone in it—but reject an overwhelming amount of easily available evidence and the dictates of common sense. Yet most Republicans did just that. In their collective mind, the GOP was cheated by perfidious forces, and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president. The dangerous myth of political dispossession is now embedded in the Republican narrative. ...​

The GOP’s ‘Pre-Fascist’ DNA

The term “fascist” is too often thrown around carelessly—but it can be helpful in explaining the direction of the Republican party.

thebulwark.com

Nazi stands for National SOCIALIST workers party...bernie and Aoc are nazis

OMFG you are a rookie arenchya.

How many grapes, and how many nuts, are in here Dumbass?

"B-but but it's in the name!" What an idiot. Think the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea is either democratic or people's? Think the Pennsylvania Dutch came from Holland? How many musicians are in the band 10,000 Maniacs?

The then-trendy term "socialist" was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it. He objected but went along for its marketing value. In the actual event the Socialists were Hitler's first targets, first forming the SA ("Brownshirts") thugs to assault them, then once in power declaring their political party to be illegal and making them the first prisoners at Dachau.

Unless you're actually going to sit on this board and try to tell the class that Adolf Hitler was such a pure and honest guy he would never engage in dishonesty. That what you're saying?

Oh and btw Bernie's family were fucking WIPED OUT by the Nazis you colossal black hole of ignorance.

FURTHER, Dumbass, proper names in English get capital letters.

Get the fuck out of here and don't come back until you learn how to do your homework.

 

[Turtlesoup]

ROFL

The democrats are a full blown Nazi Reich, and you post this moronic shit?

He paid the real Toro good money for that account

Seriously? What happened to that dude? Wasn't there a time when he wasn't a bitter, batshit crazy democrat?

A lot of people developed drug abuse problems during the soul crushing democrat lock downs in response to the Wuhan Designer Virus.

Americans wouldn't have had 10 months of locks downs if you had just locked down in the spring and stayed locked down until June - like Canada. By July, we had 200 cases a day - equivalent to 2000 cases a day in the USA. 1/10th of what you had when the USA started re-opening. You had 1 or 2 days below 20,000 cases and then bang - you fully re-opened. No phased re-opening at all.

Canada stayed re-opened until December 24th, but cases were getting out of hand and with a post-holiday spike expected, lockdown started Christmas Eve. From a peak of just under 12,000 cases on January 3rd, we had 4000 new cases yesterday. Active cases have dropped like a stone from a peak of 83,000 cases, to 58,000 today. Active US cases are likely to hit 10,000,000 this week - more than 15 times the rate of Canada.

We're having mental health issues too. I have a friend who says his drinking is getting out of hand. I've seen marriages fall apart among my family and friends too. I have a support group of 5 other single friends who all live alone, and we're on Messenger all day long, back and forthing for support.

Being productive is hard when we don't know what the new normal will look like, and consequently what we should be doing as a result. I haven't seen my grandkids since early December. I normally spend a couple days a week with them. I'm counting the days to my vaccination.

BS.....the virus has spread all over the world---------------you can't stop it from spreading---
It's not going away.............ever

The Vaccines btw---dont develop anti-bodies----won't protect from new strains--and only have limited time of effectiveness if they are effective------meaning boosters maybe even boosters every few months not once a year

And sorry I know that you don't realize much BUT--------

There are two things--------merck is pulling out of the vaccine market and going INTO ANTI-VIRALS because of the above listed reasons which is screaming alot but I know that you don't realize it
And two---my husband who had covid last month----went to his PCM this week........GUESS what pumpkin (and INVESTORS once the market gets through crashing)----the Primary Care Physicians are now giving out off-label ANTI VIRALS instead of pushing vaccines to fight the disease.
The dem corrupt mayors and governors such as Cuomo and Whitmer purposely spread the disease speeding it up in nursing homes---other countries would have likely shot them or put them in prison for murder such stunts.

 

[impuretrash]

No, the GOP is not a fascist party. But it is demonstrating nascent fascist markers.

Robert O. Paxton, in his 2004 book The Anatomy of Fascism, provides these hallmarks: “obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity”; involving “a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites”; which “abandons democratic liberties”; and “pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing. . . .”​

​

These phrases more readily evoke brownshirts on Kristallnacht than fervent Republicans; writing in Vox, Dylan Matthews draws some useful distinctions.​

​

But consider the predicates of nascent fascism.​

​

Trump relentlessly exploited a sense of decline, humiliation, and victimization among marginalized whites, even as he evoked America’s loss of strength and purity. His supporters’ “redemptive violence” at our capital was preceded in Michigan, as one example, by armed incursion the state legislature and an abortive effort to kidnap and execute the governor. While claiming to protect democracy, the GOP persistently undermines the right of disfavored groups to vote.​

​

Though nothing in America equals the predictive virulence of German anti-Semitism, anger at the racial, societal, and religious other animates a goodly portion of the Republican base. Its loathing of supposedly degenerate liberalism provides another link—as does the desire for authoritarian leadership to restore their chosen hierarchy.​

​

Perhaps most salient is the attack on reality itself. “Post-truth,” writes Timothy Snyder, “is pre-fascism.” Hitler castigated the media as “enemies of the people”; so does Trump and, often, his party. Like the avatars of fascism, Republicans increasingly trumpet mendacious propaganda—including about voter fraud.​

​

Classical fascism conditions its followers to accept “the big lie” which unifies their discontents and justifies their leaders’ actions. So, in 2020, did the GOP.​

​

Granted that the big Republican lie did not equal Hitler’s poisonous assertion that perfidious Jews stabbed Germany in the back. But the GOP’s lie to its base was, nonetheless, breathtakingly ambitious: that an unfathomable conspiracy involving thousands of state and local officials and judges, many Republicans, had stolen the presidency from Donald Trump—from them.​

​

To believe this, one must not only distrust an electoral system dispersed across 50 states and countless localities—and everyone in it—but reject an overwhelming amount of easily available evidence and the dictates of common sense. Yet most Republicans did just that. In their collective mind, the GOP was cheated by perfidious forces, and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president. The dangerous myth of political dispossession is now embedded in the Republican narrative. ...​

The GOP’s ‘Pre-Fascist’ DNA

The term “fascist” is too often thrown around carelessly—but it can be helpful in explaining the direction of the Republican party.

thebulwark.com

They aren’t fascists?nah. They’re just ok with them

"Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." —Giovanni Gentile* “Encyclopedia Italiana”

Name me one big corporation that hasn't sided with BLM and other social justice movements. Big tech censors all the opinions you don't like and banking cuts off people's access for having right of center views. Who's the fascist?

Sorry to break this to you, impuretrash , and so many others here who think as you do, but ...

... fascist “corporatism” had nothing to do with modern corporations.

See Corporatism - Wikipedia for different definitions of “CORPORATISM” — none of which have anything to do with modern economic organizations of stockholders with legally independent personhood and rights.

Italian “corporatism” was a hodgepodge theory put together by Mussolini in a time when Italian economic corporations were especially weak. Feudal cultural remnants and agricultural landowning fiefdoms, however, still had great influence. Mussolini’s “Corporatism” was based on earlier theories that dreamed of having all sections of society working “in harmony” for the glory of the Roman state, a much earlier concept that recognized and wanted no independent self-interested economic centers of power. More to do with Catholic religious theory of guilds, estates, “divine” Kings and Crusades, than it did with huge economic corporations that existed primarily outside of Italy in those days.

Postwar analysis portrays fascism as something only a comic book supervillain would believe in. As if any country would willingly elect a mustache twirling personification of evil who promises nothing other than suffering and ruin. Fascism also had ideas of how to make a nation powerful and prosperous and it apparently worked pretty well...for a while anyway.

Nowadays patriotism, reverence for tradition, racial or religious preferences, support for law-enforcement...anything not 100% in support of trendy social justice causes equals "fascist" (aka: evil). The same people who sling around the fascist label at anyone they don't like turns a blind eye or makes excuses when democrats/leftists do the same goddamn things.

Big tech and the mass media are doing their utmost to marginalize and silence traditional conservative Americans. Sounds like a merger of corporate and state power to me.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dem fascists calling others fascists I love these threads. Let the projection begin.

 

[Dragonlady]

That's because facism will not tolerate or allow criticism or disagreement.

So you fully agree that democrats are fascist

Democracy will not allow lying, and facists refuse to tell the truth.

That is a moronic claim.

Every day in this forum, right wingers wish death on the left. They whine their fake grievances claiming the right to discrimate against, deny service to, and treat as 2nd class citizens, gays, racial minorities, and religions other than the one they profess to believe in.

If we ignore that you're flat out fucking lying, that in fact it is you Nazis who deny basic civil rights based on color, that it is you Nazis who relegate the white devils you so bitterly hate to an underclass, to be denied employment, admission in education, and the right to speak because of the color of our skin.

For 10 months you have engaged in prolonged violence with your insurgency, murdering 40 people including police officers, raping women and even homeless men, looting billions of dollars, burning thousands of small businesses with your Kristalnacht.

Furthermore, the demands of the right, that you allow them to send their children to whites only schools, where they are taught Creationism, that the earth is 6000 years old, and science is whack, are creating a generation of young white people who feel entitled to rule the world on the basis of their white exceptionalism.

Don't you Nazis demand that schools be free of whites? That colored people be provided an environment where they are safe from the inferior race that you so bitterly hate?

The entire Ivy League is turning out these condescending a$$hats by the thousands, leading directly to 3 Republican economic crashes as they pursue profits above all else and without consideration of the broader social implications of doing so. Back in the 1970's, when I was applying to the UWO School of Business, modelled on Harvard, and one of the top Business Schools in the world, I read an opinion piece which said that the Harvard School of Business graduates would bring down the American economy, precisely because it was too bottom line focussed.

Ethics, social responsibility, and harm to the community were all secondary to profits. Vulture capitalist bought, dismantled and sold off corporations, piece by piece, making their profits on the sale of the land and buildings, the equipment, and remaining stocks, spinning off profitable subsidiaries, but leaving one industry towns, with no jobs, no income, and no future.

It is time to restore ethics in business and in politics. Stop the lying. Give everyone a fair piece of the pie, instead of giving it all to the wealthy and leaving hard working Americans needing government assistance to feed their families. Nobody working 40 hours a week should need a government handout to pay basic living expenses. Wages should cover basic food and lodgings, at the very least.

Especially when Amazon, which uses millions of dollars worth of public roads, transportation infrastructure, and requires tens of thousands of highly educated workers, pays nothing for all of these services which the government provides. Not to mention IT patent and trademark protections, private property protections, and international trade agreements provide the corporate infratstructure, and business climate to succeed.

Reward working Americans instead of just wealthy Americans. The workers are hurting. The wealthy are not.

You rarely tell the truth, and this is no exception.

Virtually nothing in your hate filled bigotry has any relation to reality.
We get it, you hate white people and want to eradicate the entire race. The Reich has taught you that all problems, past and present are because of the inferior race you so bitterly hate. The Reich has you focused on the idea that every wrong, every ill, every injustice, is because of the white race. You are justified in your hatred, and the Reich media confirms it with every TV show you watch. The little Goebbels confirm that the whites, Der Juden, are the enemy you must focus on.

You will certainly devise a final solution to the problem.

There was literally NOTHING in my post that was hate filled or bigotted, and it is entirely grounded in reality.

I AM NOT AN AMERICAN AND PEOPLE WATCHING FROM OUTSIDE ARE SEEING EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH RIGHT WING TERRORISM, WHITE FACISM AND REPUBLICANS.

You're being lied to by the right wing media, and the Republican Party. If you watched something other than FOX News, you'd know that.

As we watched Canadian police go into someone's home for having 6 people gather together, please don't expect Americans to take advice from Canada. You folks gave up your freedom long ago and now simply exist as children or pets to the Canadian government. Following Canada's lead is a fast route to eviscerating the U.S. Constitution. No thanks.

I won''t say that nothing like that happened, but that is not anything close to what is happening here. Canadians already enjoy much more personal freedom than Americans. Canada is No. 5 on the personal freedom index, the USA is 17th. You talk the talk, but your country has is on a long slow slide into authoritarianism. More people in jail than Russia or Communist China.

2020

On a scale of 0 to 10, where 10 represents more freedom, the average human freedom rating for 162 countries in 2018 was 6.93. Among countries included in this year’s and last year’s report, the level of freedom scarcely improved (0.01) compared with 2017, with 87 countries increasing their...

www.cato.org

Then there's the Best Quality of Life list from US News. Canada was #1 for 2020. The USA didn't even make the top coming in at 15.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings

As for following my country's lead, Joe Biden's infrastructure plan sounds exactly like what our Liberal Government under Prime Minister Jean Chretien started doing 20 years ago, when Canada first started losing manufacturing jobs because of NAFTA. We can always do more in the area of infrastructure and transportation, and we do have 10 years of neglect under Stephen Harper's Conservatives to undo, but we're in much better shape than the USA in regards to infrastructure.

Canada is now THE leading candidate for those looking to build production facilities in North America. Our climate is not being subjected to the extremes of heat, catastrophic storms, and uncontrolled wildfires currently going on in the USA. $27 billion in climate related weather catastrophes throughout the midwest and Southern Coastal states.

Our work force is better educated and healthier than Americans. Our infrastructure is better. And our government is more stable.

The 21st Century belongs to Canada. I've heard that since I was a teenager. I didn't believe it then, but I sure do now.

 

[Dragonlady]

Postwar analysis portrays fascism as something only a comic book supervillain would believe in. As if any country would willingly elect a mustache twirling personification of evil who promises nothing other than suffering and ruin. Fascism also had ideas of how to make a nation powerful and prosperous and it apparently worked pretty well...for a while anyway.

Nowadays patriotism, reverence for tradition, racial or religious preferences, support for law-enforcement...anything not 100% in support of trendy social justice causes equals "fascist" (aka: evil). The same people who sling around the fascist label at anyone they don't like turns a blind eye or makes excuses when democrats/leftists do the same goddamn things.

Big tech and the mass media are doing their utmost to marginalize and silence traditional conservative Americans. Sounds like a merger of corporate and state power to me.

From Miriam Webster: the bolding is mine.

"often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition."

"America - love it or leave it". All these right wing groups with "Patriot" in their name. Republicans were all for sending in the military to put down Black Lives Matter protests. And then attacked the House and Senate in an insurrection to install Donald Trump as President even though they lost the election.

Donald Trump has tried to attack and suppress opposition since the day he was elected, rage tweeting against Democratic leaders, especially women of colour, calling the press the "enemy of the people", as did Stalin. The first thing an authoritarian does is to try to muzzle and discredit the free press. So there is no one to expose his lies.

From around the world:

Republicans closely resemble autocratic parties in Hungary and Turkey â study

Swedish university finds ‘dramatic shift’ in GOP under Trump, shunning democratic norms and encouraging violence

www.theguardian.com

Division among Americans fueling 'authoritarian rhetoric' within the GOP, study suggests

Experts from the V-Dem Institute in Sweden say the U.S. Republican party is beginning to resemble an autocratic party fuelled by increasing polarization among Americans.

www.ctvnews.ca

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/11/12/republican-party-trump-authoritarian-data/

 

[Uncensored2008]

I don’t always agree with our Dragonlady , but this comment of yours is just loony paranoia, not even worth discussing.

Oh, you and your fellow Nazi have pretty similar beliefs.

 

[Dragonlady]

No, the GOP is not a fascist party. But it is demonstrating nascent fascist markers.

Robert O. Paxton, in his 2004 book The Anatomy of Fascism, provides these hallmarks: “obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity”; involving “a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites”; which “abandons democratic liberties”; and “pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing. . . .”​

​

These phrases more readily evoke brownshirts on Kristallnacht than fervent Republicans; writing in Vox, Dylan Matthews draws some useful distinctions.​

​

But consider the predicates of nascent fascism.​

​

Trump relentlessly exploited a sense of decline, humiliation, and victimization among marginalized whites, even as he evoked America’s loss of strength and purity. His supporters’ “redemptive violence” at our capital was preceded in Michigan, as one example, by armed incursion the state legislature and an abortive effort to kidnap and execute the governor. While claiming to protect democracy, the GOP persistently undermines the right of disfavored groups to vote.​

​

Though nothing in America equals the predictive virulence of German anti-Semitism, anger at the racial, societal, and religious other animates a goodly portion of the Republican base. Its loathing of supposedly degenerate liberalism provides another link—as does the desire for authoritarian leadership to restore their chosen hierarchy.​

​

Perhaps most salient is the attack on reality itself. “Post-truth,” writes Timothy Snyder, “is pre-fascism.” Hitler castigated the media as “enemies of the people”; so does Trump and, often, his party. Like the avatars of fascism, Republicans increasingly trumpet mendacious propaganda—including about voter fraud.​

​

Classical fascism conditions its followers to accept “the big lie” which unifies their discontents and justifies their leaders’ actions. So, in 2020, did the GOP.​

​

Granted that the big Republican lie did not equal Hitler’s poisonous assertion that perfidious Jews stabbed Germany in the back. But the GOP’s lie to its base was, nonetheless, breathtakingly ambitious: that an unfathomable conspiracy involving thousands of state and local officials and judges, many Republicans, had stolen the presidency from Donald Trump—from them.​

​

To believe this, one must not only distrust an electoral system dispersed across 50 states and countless localities—and everyone in it—but reject an overwhelming amount of easily available evidence and the dictates of common sense. Yet most Republicans did just that. In their collective mind, the GOP was cheated by perfidious forces, and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president. The dangerous myth of political dispossession is now embedded in the Republican narrative. ...​

The GOP’s ‘Pre-Fascist’ DNA

The term “fascist” is too often thrown around carelessly—but it can be helpful in explaining the direction of the Republican party.

thebulwark.com

Nazi stands for National SOCIALIST workers party...bernie and Aoc are nazis

OMFG you are a rookie arenchya.

How many grapes, and how many nuts, are in here Dumbass?

"B-but but it's in the name!" What an idiot. Think the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea is either democratic or people's? Think the Pennsylvania Dutch came from Holland? How many musicians are in the band 10,000 Maniacs?

The then-trendy term "socialist" was already in the name of the party when Hitler joined it. He objected but went along for its marketing value. In the actual event the Socialists were Hitler's first targets, first forming the SA ("Brownshirts") thugs to assault them, then once in power declaring their political party to be illegal and making them the first prisoners at Dachau.

Unless you're actually going to sit on this board and try to tell the class that Adolf Hitler was such a pure and honest guy he would never engage in dishonesty. That what you're saying?

Oh and btw Bernie's family were fucking WIPED OUT by the Nazis you colossal black hole of ignorance.

FURTHER, Dumbass, proper names in English get capital letters.

Get the fuck out of here and don't come back until you learn how to do your homework.

Bravo!!!!!!

 

[Pogo]

That's because facism will not tolerate or allow criticism or disagreement.

So you fully agree that democrats are fascist

Democracy will not allow lying, and facists refuse to tell the truth.

That is a moronic claim.

Every day in this forum, right wingers wish death on the left. They whine their fake grievances claiming the right to discrimate against, deny service to, and treat as 2nd class citizens, gays, racial minorities, and religions other than the one they profess to believe in.

If we ignore that you're flat out fucking lying, that in fact it is you Nazis who deny basic civil rights based on color, that it is you Nazis who relegate the white devils you so bitterly hate to an underclass, to be denied employment, admission in education, and the right to speak because of the color of our skin.

For 10 months you have engaged in prolonged violence with your insurgency, murdering 40 people including police officers, raping women and even homeless men, looting billions of dollars, burning thousands of small businesses with your Kristalnacht.

Furthermore, the demands of the right, that you allow them to send their children to whites only schools, where they are taught Creationism, that the earth is 6000 years old, and science is whack, are creating a generation of young white people who feel entitled to rule the world on the basis of their white exceptionalism.

Don't you Nazis demand that schools be free of whites? That colored people be provided an environment where they are safe from the inferior race that you so bitterly hate?

The entire Ivy League is turning out these condescending a$$hats by the thousands, leading directly to 3 Republican economic crashes as they pursue profits above all else and without consideration of the broader social implications of doing so. Back in the 1970's, when I was applying to the UWO School of Business, modelled on Harvard, and one of the top Business Schools in the world, I read an opinion piece which said that the Harvard School of Business graduates would bring down the American economy, precisely because it was too bottom line focussed.

Ethics, social responsibility, and harm to the community were all secondary to profits. Vulture capitalist bought, dismantled and sold off corporations, piece by piece, making their profits on the sale of the land and buildings, the equipment, and remaining stocks, spinning off profitable subsidiaries, but leaving one industry towns, with no jobs, no income, and no future.

It is time to restore ethics in business and in politics. Stop the lying. Give everyone a fair piece of the pie, instead of giving it all to the wealthy and leaving hard working Americans needing government assistance to feed their families. Nobody working 40 hours a week should need a government handout to pay basic living expenses. Wages should cover basic food and lodgings, at the very least.

Especially when Amazon, which uses millions of dollars worth of public roads, transportation infrastructure, and requires tens of thousands of highly educated workers, pays nothing for all of these services which the government provides. Not to mention IT patent and trademark protections, private property protections, and international trade agreements provide the corporate infratstructure, and business climate to succeed.

Reward working Americans instead of just wealthy Americans. The workers are hurting. The wealthy are not.

You rarely tell the truth, and this is no exception.

Virtually nothing in your hate filled bigotry has any relation to reality.
We get it, you hate white people and want to eradicate the entire race. The Reich has taught you that all problems, past and present are because of the inferior race you so bitterly hate. The Reich has you focused on the idea that every wrong, every ill, every injustice, is because of the white race. You are justified in your hatred, and the Reich media confirms it with every TV show you watch. The little Goebbels confirm that the whites, Der Juden, are the enemy you must focus on.

You will certainly devise a final solution to the problem.

I don’t always agree with our Dragonlady , but this comment of yours is just loony paranoia, not even worth discussing.

I've had Pothead on Ignore for centuries. I call him that because he runs around calling everybody Pol Pot. He's let us say a few yards short of a first down.

Now watch, he'll melt down when he sees this. It'll be entertaining at least.

 

[Uncensored2008]

ROFL

The democrats are a full blown Nazi Reich, and you post this moronic shit?

He paid the real Toro good money for that account

Seriously? What happened to that dude? Wasn't there a time when he wasn't a bitter, batshit crazy democrat?

A lot of people developed drug abuse problems during the soul crushing democrat lock downs in response to the Wuhan Designer Virus.

Americans wouldn't have had 10 months of locks downs if you had just locked down in the spring and stayed locked down until June - like Canada. By July, we had 200 cases a day - equivalent to 2000 cases a day in the USA. 1/10th of what you had when the USA started re-opening. You had 1 or 2 days below 20,000 cases and then bang - you fully re-opened. No phased re-opening at all.

Canada stayed re-opened until December 24th, but cases were getting out of hand and with a post-holiday spike expected, lockdown started Christmas Eve. From a peak of just under 12,000 cases on January 3rd, we had 4000 new cases yesterday. Active cases have dropped like a stone from a peak of 83,000 cases, to 58,000 today. Active US cases are likely to hit 10,000,000 this week - more than 15 times the rate of Canada.

We're having mental health issues too. I have a friend who says his drinking is getting out of hand. I've seen marriages fall apart among my family and friends too. I have a support group of 5 other single friends who all live alone, and we're on Messenger all day long, back and forthing for support.

Being productive is hard when we don't know what the new normal will look like, and consequently what we should be doing as a result. I haven't seen my grandkids since early December. I normally spend a couple days a week with them. I'm counting the days to my vaccination.

California locked down in April and remains locked down. Florida took a much more sane approach. California has a higher rate of infection, both in number and percentage of population than does Florida.

The claim that lock downs slow the virus are demonstrably false, in fact the opposite appears to be the case.

Totalitarianism is the "new normal" you seek.

Canada places extreme restrictions on liberty. Speech and religion are heavily regulated in Canada. Liberty is in short supply north of the border. Opposition to government policy is a criminal offense that can land Canadians in prison for opposing homosexuality or the sexual abuse of children with transgender procedures.

America is losing liberty fast, but we remain vastly freer than Canada.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Big tech and the mass media are doing their utmost to marginalize and silence traditional conservative Americans. Sounds like a merger of corporate and state power to me.

Corporate and state power have indeed common interests today in many respects, especially in areas like the Military Industrial Complex and overseas imperialist interests. These corporate elites generally like to use a deadlocked two-party system to play workers against each other, to get them to serve corporate interests of one sort or another, to allow the corporations to effectively control or neuter government. Occasionally what you call “conservatives” (really rightwing populists) — but more often genuinely radical leftists and anti-imperialists — get marginalized and silenced.

Maniacs and loonies and incompetents are a new threat to corporation’s preferred “Constitutional Republican” rule — which they also have rather belatedly recognized. But if the crisis worsens and great power conflict intensifies into proxy or real wars, then they may opt for a more reliable and competent version of “Trumpism,” they may chuck democracy completely and embrace the next authoritarian “America First” pseudo-patriot.