The good news is most states raised their minimum wage and legalized pot!

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Nevada, Maine, Califorina and Massachusetts all voted for legalizing pot! Only arizona disagreed.
Everyone of them including Washington wanted increased minimum wage.


2016 election results: Ballot measures

Nationally pot should be legalized at the federal level and left up to the states.
 

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You can show that you care about states rights and limited government by respecting the will of the people in these states.

Nevada, Maine, Califorina and Massachusetts all voted for legalizing pot! Only arizona disagreed.
Everyone of them including Washington wanted increased minimum wage.


2016 election results: Ballot measures

Nationally pot should be legalized at the federal level and left up to the states.
States can do what they want, let them deal with the repercussions of paying people more than they are worth.

And a big YAY for the Pot laws. Hopefully Congress can pass something to leave it up to the States.
 

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You can show that you care about states rights and limited government by respecting the will of the people in these states.

Nevada, Maine, Califorina and Massachusetts all voted for legalizing pot! Only arizona disagreed.
Everyone of them including Washington wanted increased minimum wage.


2016 election results: Ballot measures

Nationally pot should be legalized at the federal level and left up to the states.
Oh so now state's rights matter.....
 

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You can show that you care about states rights and limited government by respecting the will of the people in these states.

Nevada, Maine, Califorina and Massachusetts all voted for legalizing pot! Only arizona disagreed.
Everyone of them including Washington wanted increased minimum wage.


2016 election results: Ballot measures

Nationally pot should be legalized at the federal level and left up to the states.
If the states want to fuck over their small businesses, let them. They can move to the next state ver. As for marijuana, there is a federal prohibition for it. States don't have the right to legalize it for non medical reasons and maybe even medical. Trump will be told to send in the FBI to make arrests. Obama looked the other way. We won't. Also say goodbye to sanctuary cities.
 
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Nevada, Maine, Califorina and Massachusetts all voted for legalizing pot! Only arizona disagreed.
Everyone of them including Washington wanted increased minimum wage.


2016 election results: Ballot measures

Nationally pot should be legalized at the federal level and left up to the states.
If the states want to fuck over their small businesses, let them. They can move to the next state ver. As for marijuana, there is a federal prohibition for it. States don't have the right to legalize it for non medical reasons and maybe even medical. Trump will be told to send in the FBI to make arrests. Obama looked the other way. We won't. Also say goodbye to sanctuary cities.
So you don't believe in states rights? Why arrest people for smoking a leaf? That is fascist and this law should be the first thing that Trump works to change.
 

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Freedom and liberty is having the right to smoke a bowl. ;)
No one ever worried if it was their right or not, hitherto. I think legalizing pot is a bad move for this nation. The irresponsibility factor is at an all time high as it is. (pardon the pun)

Where my state or this nation has it all backwards is liquor and gambling. In Minnesota you need to be 21 to drink but 18 to get into casinos. Insane. Let them drink in the bars at 18 where they will more likely be better maintained and monitored than at their wild house parties and in cars. Keep them out of the casinos until 21, these punks have no money and develop a horrible habit at 18. They cannot go to clubs so they go to the casinos. Great.
 

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Surely Matthew wonders if the feds should spend money on pot before infrastructure....
 

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Surely Matthew wonders if the feds should spend money on pot before infrastructure....
The fed doesn't need to spend one cent on pot. Hell, we're spending billions on the war on drugs at this moment and billions more in prison cost.
Uh huh. It's prisons that are the problem. Hasn't pot loving Obama pardoned all the druggies behind bars? That'll make it all better, right? Billions saved and stuff. Yeah. Hang loose, man.
 

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The fed doesn't need to spend one cent on pot. Hell, we're spending billions on the war on drugs at this moment and billions more in prison cost.
And after thirty-five years of absolute waste of valuable resources, diminution of our civil liberties, unnecessary expansion of police powers, the rise of a prison industrial complex and the utter ruin of millions of salvageable lives, there has not been the slightest reduction in the use and availability of illegal drugs. In fact, these drugs are more available today than they were when Ronald Reagan and his ditzy, Quaalude-addict wife escalated Nixon's already failed War On Drugs and created the counterproductive monstrosity it's become.

It is said that doing the same thing over and over endlessly and expecting a different result is one definition of insanity -- and it perfectly defines the drug war. The War On Drugs happens to be one of America's most serious problems.
 

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You can show that you care about states rights and limited government by respecting the will of the people in these states.

Nevada, Maine, Califorina and Massachusetts all voted for legalizing pot! Only arizona disagreed.
Everyone of them including Washington wanted increased minimum wage.


2016 election results: Ballot measures

Nationally pot should be legalized at the federal level and left up to the states.
If the states want to fuck over their small businesses, let them. They can move to the next state ver. As for marijuana, there is a federal prohibition for it. States don't have the right to legalize it for non medical reasons and maybe even medical. Trump will be told to send in the FBI to make arrests. Obama looked the other way. We won't. Also say goodbye to sanctuary cities.
Yep. Republicans will send in the FBI and the DEA to arrest pot smokers because they are for limited government, state's rights, and individual liberty, lol.
 

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Uh huh. It's prisons that are the problem. Hasn't pot loving Obama pardoned all the druggies behind bars? That'll make it all better, right? Billions saved and stuff. Yeah. Hang loose, man.
The law-enforcement approach to minor drug offenses, which are victimless "crimes," is plainly wasteful as well as absolutely counterproductive. The War On Drugs benefits only a very small number of special interests while inflicting damage on the rest of society.
 

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Uh huh. It's prisons that are the problem. Hasn't pot loving Obama pardoned all the druggies behind bars? That'll make it all better, right? Billions saved and stuff. Yeah. Hang loose, man.
The law-enforcement approach to minor drug offenses, which are victimless "crimes," is plainly wasteful as well as absolutely counterproductive. The War On Drugs benefits only a very small number of special interests while inflicting damage on the rest of society.
Another way to look at it is, don't do the crime if you can't do the time. So yippee, now it's not illegal in some states. We can all sit back and watch the unintended consequences. Remember Colorado's increased car wrecks after legalization of pot?
 

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If the states want to fuck over their small businesses, let them. They can move to the next state ver. As for marijuana, there is a federal prohibition for it. States don't have the right to legalize it for non medical reasons and maybe even medical. Trump will be told to send in the FBI to make arrests. Obama looked the other way. We won't. Also say goodbye to sanctuary cities.
What good do you believe enforcing federal marijuana laws do?

Are you aware that the drug war has been absolutely counterproductive? Do you know that drugs are no less available today than they were when the drug war was commenced?
 

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Another way to look at it is, don't do the crime if you can't do the time. So yippee, now it's not illegal in some states.
In accordance with the rational standards of a free society a "crime" is an action which causes some form of harm to another or others. So If you choose to grow, or buy, and enjoy the effects of cannabis, a naturally occurring plant, how does that harm me or anyone else?

Please answer that question.

We can all sit back and watch the unintended consequences. Remember Colorado's increased car wrecks after legalization of pot?
A similar rise in traffic accidents, as well as other negative social effects, such as domestic violence, occurred when alcohol Prohibition was repealed in 1933. This effect was the anticipated consequence of sudden liberation after a long period of constraint. But also expected was the gradual reduction in booze-related misconduct that took place as the public became accustomed to its legal access to booze and the once illicit substance lost its allure.

A similar situation was seen in The Netherlands when it decriminalized marijuana in 1976. There was an immediate surge in use and associated negative effects, but that effect quickly subsided and today there is a substantial reduction in use by adolescents as well as adults.

What is not mentioned in any of the reports I've read about the increased pot-related auto accidents in Colorado is the exceptionally heavy increase in motor vehicle traffic caused by the legalization. For example, I live in New Jersey where marijuana is illegal. If it were legalized in New York or Pennsylvania there assuredly would be hundreds of thousands maybe millions of those who live in contiguous or nearby states and who would be making the trip monthly if not weekly. So legalizing marijuana in all 50 states will eliminate this obvious though unmentioned circumstance.

So I'm sure a substantial percentage of the increased accident rate is the result of the increased rate of traffic in and out of Colorado. It isn't only stoned drivers who are colliding, the crowded roads are contributing to the problem.
 
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You can show that you care about states rights and limited government by respecting the will of the people in these states.

Nevada, Maine, Califorina and Massachusetts all voted for legalizing pot! Only arizona disagreed.
Everyone of them including Washington wanted increased minimum wage.


2016 election results: Ballot measures

Nationally pot should be legalized at the federal level and left up to the states.
So you are happy about the consequential suppressed turnout in blue states why?
 

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You know, to make marijuana legal at the federal level, all that has to happen is for the DEA to remove marijuana from a Schedule I substance and move it down to Schedule II or lower.

If it was Schedule II or lower, then doctors all over the nation would have the ability to prescribe marijuana for ailments.

However, in doing so, it would piss off all the big Pharma companies who make a mint off of people and their illnesses.
 

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