The global left jumps to the defense of the fascist Islamic theocracy of Iran

[Chuz Life]

If? Do you not know they’ve murdering tens of thousands of innocent civilians?

Oh now the old human shields bs. All of Gaza is rumble you idiot.

You are a hypocrite.

Basic FAFO

Maybe they shouldn't have pulled that shit in Oct. 2023

Reminder of my views: BREAKING! Greta Thunberg’s Palestinian AID Ship Has Been Hit By A Drone And Is On Fire!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Little help

I can’t find “liberating Persians from leaders we (Bibi) don’t like” in the US Constitution as justification to go to war.

It ain't.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It ain't.

There is no justification anywhere in the Constitution for waging war. It just says the Congress must declare war. That has rarely happened even when the USA was in its infancy. There was no declaration of war for the actions against the Barbary Pirate, or the French in the “Quasi War” we fought with both. Both wars happened while founding fathers were presidents.

 

[JohnDB]

Let's put it this way....

EVERY social media bot farm was mobilized about 10 minutes before Trumps speech announcing the war.

This includes ones from China, Russia, Baltic, Albania, Africa, and Europe.


Apparently they are all here as the bot farms got tossed from X. Elon watched them in real time and shut them off before they got started.

 

[BluesLegend]

As we all knew they would.

The left in America have KILLED several hundred thousand Americans with their invading army of foreign illegals. They don't give a shit the sick bastards. RAPE, MURDER, all manner of DEATH and destroyed families yet the left turn out to defend the very foreign invaders doing the killing and raping. THAT'S who the left are!

 

[gipper]

Basic FAFO

Maybe they shouldn't have pulled that shit in Oct. 2023

Reminder of my views: BREAKING! Greta Thunberg’s Palestinian AID Ship Has Been Hit By A Drone And Is On Fire!

I’m glad you can admit you’re a hypocrite.

 

[EMH]

Same crap we got for Iraq.


"You love Saddam..."

no, I just don't think he is a US problem, and certainly not worth tens of thousands of American lives and trillions of American taxdollars.


If the Ayatollah is dead, that should mean the US military is done here... no invasion occupation NO.

 

[Blaster]

Little help

I can’t find “liberating Persians from leaders we don’t like” as justification to go to war.

It is justification in my opinion.

 

[DonGlock26]

As we all knew they would.

Also, and as always, leftists on this board uniformly support the Iranian regime. 100%.

The Left will always support evil.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Same crap we got for Iraq.


"You love Saddam..."

no, I just don't think he is a US problem, and certainly not worth tens of thousands of American lives and trillions of American taxdollars.


If the Ayatollah is dead, that should mean the US military is done here... no invasion occupation NO.

Are we invading? I dont see a ground offensive.

 

[EMH]

Are we invading? I dont see a ground offensive.

BRAVO!!

It better stay that way....

 

[LordBrownTrout]

BRAVO!!

It better stay that way....

I dont want to see any ground invasion. Its time for the people there to take back persia.

 

[Chuz Life]

I’m glad you can admit you’re a hypocrite.

Opinion noted.
I'll consider the source to be worth what I paid for it.

 

[EMH]

I dont want to see any ground invasion. Its time for the people there to take back persia.

This whole thing wasn't thought out.

If the objective was to overthrow, don't tell them to "go protest" in a country like that.

Covertly arm the opposition.... and you're right, let THEM do it, and US stay OUT...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There is no justification anywhere in the Constitution for waging war. It just says the Congress must declare war. That has rarely happened even when the USA was in its infancy. There was no declaration of war for the actions against the Barbary Pirate, or the French in the “Quasi War” we fought with both. Both wars happened while founding fathers were presidents.

“Thomas Jefferson did not seek or obtain a formal declaration of war from Congress against the Barbary Pirates (specifically during the First Barbary War against Tripoli, 1801–1805) primarily due to his strict interpretation of the U.S. Constitution and his commitment to limiting executive power in matters of war.

The U.S. Constitution (Article I, Section 8) grants Congress the sole power “to declare War.” Jefferson, a strict constructionist who believed in a limited federal government, viewed a formal declaration of war as Congress’s exclusive prerogative. He was unwilling to initiate offensive war on his own authority without congressional approval.

Key events unfolded as follows:

• In May 1801, shortly after Jefferson’s inauguration, the Pasha of Tripoli (Yusuf Karamanli) demanded higher tribute payments. When Jefferson refused (consistent with his long-held opposition to paying tribute, which he saw as ineffective and humiliating), the Pasha symbolically declared war by chopping down the flagpole at the U.S. consulate in Tripoli.

• Jefferson had already sent a naval squadron to the Mediterranean in early 1801 (with pre-existing congressional authorization for naval forces to protect commerce), but he limited initial actions to defensive measures.

• In his December 1801 message to Congress, Jefferson reported the events and explicitly stated he was “unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense.” He released a captured Tripolitan vessel after an engagement because he lacked offensive authorization.

• Rather than asking Congress for a formal declaration of war (which might have been politically difficult or unnecessary for a limited naval conflict), Jefferson requested authority for offensive actions to protect U.S. commerce and seamen.

• In February 1802, Congress passed “An Act for the Protection of Commerce and Seamen of the United States against the Tripolitan Cruisers.” This authorized the president to use armed vessels to seize Tripolitan ships, goods, and to take other hostile acts as justified by the state of war—effectively a limited authorization for war without a full declaration.

Congress never issued a formal declaration of war against Tripoli (or the other Barbary states involved). The conflict remained a limited naval war, often described as a “quasi-war” or police action against piracy. This approach aligned with Jefferson’s principles: he deferred to Congress for expanding hostilities, avoided overreach, and achieved his goal of ending tribute payments through force without a politically charged full declaration.

In short, Jefferson didn’t pursue a declaration because Tripoli had already declared war (prompting a defensive response), he respected congressional war powers, and the 1802 authorization sufficed for the naval campaign he needed. This set an early precedent for presidents using force abroad with congressional backing short of formal war declarations.”

 

[LeftofLeft]

Not sure why and how the Left has tolerance for Islamic Nation States. They are theocracies that hate woman and gays. Have the Islamo fascists weighed in on transgenders yet?

 

[Stryder50]

Lol. I oppose abortion. Always have.

You support murdering Palestinian babies, yet claim to oppose abortion.

Who’s position is hypocritical?

You support killing Jewish babies (and adults).
Guess that makes you even.

 

[Dorian Mode]

This whole thing wasn't thought out.

If the objective was to overthrow, don't tell them to "go protest" in a country like that.

Covertly arm the opposition.... and you're right, let THEM do it, and US stay OUT...

Hasn't America been doing exactly that since 1979 in Iran and even earlier in Russia and many other eastern European countries? They're called color revolutions. Isn't this exactly what China, Russia and many other enemies are doing in America? America's neo-left are being paid to destroy the social fabric and turn the people against each other hoping to create another civil war. Thankfully it doesn't seem to be working very well and America is turning on the neo-leftists. Seems color revolutions don't work any more and America gave up and decided to do it the old fashioned way. Soon our enemies will do the same.

 

[Stryder50]

This whole thing wasn't thought out.

If the objective was to overthrow, don't tell them to "go protest" in a country like that.

Covertly arm the opposition.... and you're right, let THEM do it, and US stay OUT...

"Covertly arm" usually involves use of and/or insertion of SOF.

I'm gauging this time the USA has a Leader who wants to finish the job, and the Right way.*

* Finished and fixed such that when we decide it's done and pack-up to go home, we don't have to come back and redo.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Not sure why and how the Left has tolerance for Islamic Nation States. They are theocracies that hate woman and gays. Have the Islamo fascists weighed in on transgenders yet?

Tolerance? Any enemy of America today is an enemy against Trump and they LOVE all of them, including the Ayatollah. Today we will see the left mourning the death of the Ayatollah and calling for Trump's impeachment. Big crowds will gather in NYC to mourn one of their Muslim brothers that has fallen to the fascist, racist, transphobic Trump administration.