The Glacial-Interglacial Cycle is Driven by Orbital Forcing

[August West]

Yeah ... but who skips on profit? ...

No one, but blaming politicians for capitalist greed is lame and lazy.

 

[Crick]

The link documents that 2 million years ago, northern Greenland was green, meaning all of Greenland, save mountain tops, was green.






That expedition drilled through the thickest part of Greenland's ice sheet, near the "center latitude," and pulled out pine cones etc. dated 450k-800k years ago... ie the ice started up north and flowed south, getting near the middle during that time frame.






Bullshit. The Vikings farmed the southern tip until the 1400s, and their dwellings are buried under ice now. That is the same ice sheet that originated at the top of northern Greenland and moved south. Greenland's continent specific ice age took 1-2 million years to cover the continent as it does today. That translates to a speed of about a mile every thousand years, which if applied to McBullshit's explanation of North American Ice Age, would mean 75k years after the start of North American Ice Age, the glaciers were not even 1/10th the distance needed to get to Chicago. And since we know there were still big glaciers from North American Ice Age 10-20k years ago, it is indisputable truth that


GREENLAND FROZE WHILE NORTH AMERICA THAWED


blowing the entire Co2 and glacials BULLSHIT UP COMPLETELY.

The problem here is that you're unaware of the definition of "ice age" that any 7th grader could give you.

In your "CO2 does nothing" universe, what explanation do you have for the correlation between CO2 and temperature in these data?

Is it the beginning of the end?

There is a recent post on Watts Up With That (WUWT) suggesting that it is the beginning of the end : warmists in retreat on sea-level rise and climate sensitivity. It links to a blog post by someon…

andthentheresphysics.wordpress.com

 

[EMH]

An interglacial is, quite obviously, not an ice-free period. It is simply a warmer portion of an ice age. We are still in the Quaternary ice age and have been for 2.58 million years. That ice should be present in Greenland, North America and Antarctica at any point in the last 3 million years is a surprise to no one. Except you apparently.

Ice grow where conditions allow. At high latitudes. At high altitudes. Look at Mt Washington in New Hampshire. It's one of the coldest places on Earth yet is only 6,800 feet above sea level and south of Minneapolis, Seattle, Paris and London. As for being continent specific, Mt Washington is on the same continent as Furnace Creek, Death Valley, California, the hottest place on the planet.

Or is that all FUDGE?

Nice try...

Your definition of ice age is completely wrong. The "glacials" bullshit is proven wrong since Greenland and Antarctic ice both grew straight through all the "inter glacials" and the ice cores prove it.


Since you are such an expert on what causes ice to grow, why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska...???

You will never get the right answer to that question as long as you stick to a bogus definition of ice age....

 

[EMH]

The problem here is that you're unaware of the definition of "ice age" that any 7th grader could give you

LOL!!!

To you, Antarctica is not an "ice age," never mind it is covered with 2+ miles of ice....

 

[ding]

In your "CO2 does nothing" universe, what explanation do you have for the correlation between CO2 and temperature in these data?

That the change in ocean temperature was responsible which means there was a lag time of 800 to 1000 years between the ocean cooling or warming and either absorbing or releasing CO2.

 

[EMH]

That the change in ocean temperature was responsible which means there was a lag time of 800 to 1000 years between the ocean cooling or warming and either absorbing or releasing CO2.

Highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed the correlation between Co2 and temperature is

ABSOLUTE FUCKING ZERO

 

[ding]

Highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed the correlation between Co2 and temperature is

ABSOLUTE FUCKING ZERO

Was there ever a technical paper published on it?

 

[EMH]

Was there ever a technical paper published on it?

Data from satellites = no warming in atmosphere
Data from balloons = no warming in the atmosphere


And, according to the Co2 FRAUD, we should ignore that and wait for a taxpayer funded "climate scientist" to publish a "technical paper" on the data....


To the Co2 FRAUD, data does not matter, since data has refuted the Co2 FRAUD all along.

 

[ding]

Data from satellites = no warming in atmosphere
Data from balloons = no warming in the atmosphere


And, according to the Co2 FRAUD, we should ignore that and wait for a taxpayer funded "climate scientist" to publish a "technical paper" on the data....


To the Co2 FRAUD, data does not matter, since data has refuted the Co2 FRAUD all along.

Was there ever a technical paper published on it?

 

[EMH]

Was there ever a technical paper published on it?

a taxpayer funded parrot goes BAWK

 

[ding]

a taxpayer funded parrot goes BAWK

Was there ever a technical paper published on it?

 

[Crick]

but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska...???

The latitude of the Arctic Circle is 66 degrees and 45 minutes, off the bottom of these pictures of Alaskan glaciers

 

[ReinyDays]

Highly correlated satellite and balloon data showed the correlation between Co2 and temperature is

ABSOLUTE FUCKING ZERO

Which satellite band are you using as a proxy for temperature? ... here's the Gen6 options from GOES-16 ...

 

[EMH]

The latitude of the Arctic Circle is 66 degrees and 45 minutes, off the bottom of these pictures of Alaskan glaciers
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Those are MOUNTAINS. There is "glacier" on top of Mt. Kilimanjaro. So what...

This is the difference between ICE AGE and NOT ICE AGE....

Greenland with 700k cubic miles of ice is in continent specific ICE AGE...

Alaska, with such a small amount of ice it isn't even on the list... less than 0.1% of Earth ice vs Greenland 7%

 

[EMH]

Which satellite band are you using as a proxy for temperature? ... here's the Gen6 options from GOES-16 ...

The "recorded history of the data" band...

And the data speaks for itself...

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.

 

[Crick]

The "recorded history of the data" band...

And the data speaks for itself...

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.

You can't add two plus two, can you?

 

[EMH]

You can't add two plus two, can you?

What is the difference between DATA and FUDGE?

Data comes from INSTRUMENTS that measure things.

FUDGE comes from a desire to change the actual data to fit a bogus politicized narrative.

 

[Crick]

What is the difference between DATA and FUDGE?

Data comes from INSTRUMENTS that measure things.

FUDGE comes from a desire to change the actual data to fit a bogus politicized narrative.

It's 4.

2 + 2 = 4.

Repeat that to yourself a few times and I bet you can hang on to it. It could come in handy later on.

 

[ReinyDays]

The "recorded history of the data" band...

And the data speaks for itself...

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.

NBCNews is your source? ... that's sad, really really sad ...

 

[Crick]

NBCNews is your source? ... that's sad, really really sad ...

And that NBC article says that his "highly correlated satellite and balloon data" is crap.