spectrumc01
I give you....the TRUTH
You still sound confused. How can you explain the US Constitution by using church as an example? That is a clear violation of the separation of church and state. Wouldn't you agree?
Unless your argument is purely emotional and you are using your personal feelings about Christianity to somehow justify your opinion of the US Constitution. It still sounds confused.
Lets take the health care bill, and assume that I'm a Republican church goer. I should be in favor of such a bill because it is for the "General Welfare of the people of the US" and it jives with what the bible teaches. Unemployment benefits extensions, does it fit the general welfare clause, yes and you can reconcile it with the bible as well.
What I'm saying is... that if all these "compassionate conservatives", and "Family Values" politicians actually believe in what they say they do. When it comes down to what actually fits in the "General Welfare" clause, it should be a no brainer.
You're still confused. This is not a republican church goer partisan argument. This is a constitutional argument. Your argument is that government should do what the church does and that republicans should somehow support government taking care of people. Your argument is purely driven by emotion and personal opinion, not the law.
from Article I section 8 of the US Constitution:
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and General Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States"
I don't see any explicit limit placed on what CAN or CANNOT be considered providing for the general welfare of the United States. However, I've seen several people here lately argue that there is only ONE acceptable definition of 'general welfare' (conveniently their own) and it excludes anything that even slightly constitutes a redistribution of wealth.
When congress comes up with a bill, such as the new health care bill, it must be voted on for approval, and funding must be aquired. Anyone who believes in the bible and lives their faith would vote yes for this bill (church going Republicans/Democrats). When it comes to the funding part they should do everything in their power to get the funding because Public health care is a good thing for the General welfare of the people and the country. If that means laying and collecting Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to provide for the General Welfare of the United States, then that is what must be done. Some like to view it as wealth redistribution instead of helping the down trodden because it gets them off the hook with their faith (church going Republicans/Democrats). This has nothing to do with seperation of church and state it has to do with the hypocracy that says "I sit in church and live my faith, but in actuality I live like the Pharasies using technical loopholes to cheat my faith". They talk about their faith and give good lip service but when it comes time to apply it, their greed and partisanship comes to the fore front. They can't tell me of moral obligations to help the Libyans, yet watch our people go without health care.