The Geminga Scenario

[Zebra]

i asked about the Planet 9

 

[Stryder50]

Did you read the linked article?

It refers to evidence suggesting one or more possible planets far past Neptune's orbit.
Such as this excerpt;
" ‘The discovery of 2017 OF201 is significant because it’s found in a region of the Solar System thought to be empty, and it’s presence points to the existence of other similar eTNOs with orbits that challenge ideas about Planet Nine as they are not clustered in the way that has been seen with other eTNOs’ "

Sumerian writings regarding a distant planet they claimed to know of, "Nibiru", was also one with an orbit that took it out beyond Neptune's. Text of the slide show suggests this one doesn't have the size of orbit the Sumerians alledged, which is why I presented the question. Other point is that if there is another planet in such an unusual orbit than the claim for "Nibiru" might be valid.

So to answer your question, which is vague*, I believe there is a good probability there may be one or more planets (small to large) in orbits that are beyond Neptune's and may have epileptic or odd paths.

*"vague" in that you weren't clear if you were asking about the planet(s) that are subject of the linked article, or about the claimed planet "Nibiru" I was making comparison to.

That was supposed to be ecliptic, not epileptic. (Curse of forgetting to proof read)

 

[Stryder50]

Being a thread that also includes ET/Aliens in many ways, this which may be more whimsy and satire than sincere;

Area 51 'aliens pictures' as CIA breaks silence after 58 years​

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[Stryder50]

i asked about the Planet 9

I gave you the only answer I can, in previous post #280.

Not only might there be a "Planet 9" but could be "Planet 10", etc.
Also a possibility that a distant "planet" might actually be a brown dwarf.

 

[Stryder50]

Another focus point is Human origins and evolution, so this is an interesting article.
Forewarn, Discover the Magazine limits the number of free articles one can view.

Homo Ergaster: ​

Learn more about Homo ergaster, an early human ancestor with pivotal features.

Homo Ergaster: The Early Human Who Looked Almost Like Us

Learn more about Homo ergaster, an early human ancestor with pivotal features.

www.discovermagazine.com

 

[Zebra]

I gave you the only answer I can, in previous post #280.

Not only might there be a "Planet 9" but could be "Planet 10", etc.
Also a possibility that a distant "planet" might actually be a brown dwarf.

a planet 11 maybe

 

[Stryder50]

a planet 11 maybe

There have been 2 or 3 contenders for #9 (post Pluto) so could be. ???

 

[Stryder50]

This thread might also have some related material;
Conversation with ChatGPT on how I could learn to invent an anti-gravity machine

 

[Stryder50]

Genetics being an aspect of this thread topic;

Scientists Found 6,000-Year-Old Human Remains. No Other People Share Their DNA.​

If they have no ancestors or descendants, then who are they?

Scientists Found 6,000-Year-Old Human Remains. No Other People Share Their DNA.

If they have no ancestors or descendants, then who are they?

www.popularmechanics.com

BTW, Popular Mechanics limits the number (small) of free linkage to their articles. Consider.
(I may post some excerpts later)
....
Here’s what you’ll learn when you read this story:

• An analysis of bones from ancient people who once lived in Colombia has discovered DNA that does not directly connect them to any other ancient or modern population in South America.
• It is thought that these people might somehow be related to speakers of Chibchan languages, which are spoken in the area where they once lived.
• More genomic research will be needed to demystify who these unknown people were and whose ancestors they might be.

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Around 6,000 years ago, hunter-gatherers who migrated south settled in the Bogotá Altiplano of what is now Colombia, transitioning to an agricultural society over the next 4,000 years. Then they vanished.

Whoever these people were, they disappeared from the genetic record. The team of researchers who discovered them through fragmented DNA in their skeletal remains have not been able to find any ancient relatives or modern descendants. They are strangely not related to Indigenous Columbians, having more of a connection to people who now live on the Isthmus of Panama and speak Chibchan languages. It could be possible that they spread through the region, mixing with local populations for so long that their genes were diluted, but no one can be sure.

 

[Stryder50]

A fairly well preserved body it seems.

A 2,000-Year-Old Sarcophagus Was Just Unsealed—and the Mummy Inside is Mind-Blowing​

The remarkable preservation reveals intricate details about ancient burial customs.

A 2,000-Year-Old Sarcophagus Was Just Unsealed—and the Mummy Inside is Mind-Blowing

The remarkable preservation reveals intricate details about ancient burial customs.

www.popularmechanics.com

 

[Stryder50]

This thread is tangentially related to topics here;
My 2007 submission for $25 million "Virgin Earth Challenge?"
Also involves;

Kevin Zadai – Official Site

kevinzadai.com

 

[DennisPTate]

When it comes to questions of the Creation of the Cosmos and Humans, most people tend to align with one or the other of polar views.
1) On one hand are those with Religion inclinations whom endorse some form of a Deity or Deities having decided to "Create" the Cosmos and we Humans within such. Such "Creation Stories/"Myths" " then become foundation for Religions = Ideologies with Deity/Deities attached and a proscription for how to live within the edicts of such a Creator(s).
2) On the other hand are those whom engage some form of Natural Existence/Development where "The Cosmos" is seen to have always been there, a result of it's 'Own Being" and then just happened to follow a path of mutations and developments that often have some gaps in the processes, but since such exists, it "Must have happened naturally."

Could there be some other more middle ground between these two polar extremes?

Might the Cosmos be some form of eternal cycle of Big Bangs and Big Collapses, neither a Beginning nor an End, and along the way Others show up and had some role in the appearance of the current version of we Humans, hence becoming our Gawds/Gawdesses ???

In the middle ground between Creationism and Evolutionism, this might be a perpendicular path to consider.

Many will think that my view is a compromise but I believe that our Creator in a sense "evolved or learned" and got better and better at creating other life forms and stars and planets and various phenomena over infinite time in the past.

I do believe that The Being of Light of near death experience fame is also known as YHWH of the Jewish scriptures or as The Heavenly Father of the Christian scriptures.

I believe that YHWh is composed of Energy from Quantum Vacuum and I believe that our Creator has set in motion an essentially infinite number of Big Bang type events over infinite time in the past. What was shown to former Atheist and near death experiencer Mellen Thomas Benedict fits perfectly with chapter thirteen of "Stephen Hawking's Universe."

[Mellen Benedict] :

6. The Void​

At this point of my NDE, I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity. I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time / the First Word / the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply, I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness. When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That’s a mind-expanding thought, isn’t it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event that created the Universe. I saw during my life after death experience that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by super computers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said God had periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and recreated other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and recreating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

"

Mellen-Thomas Benedict's Near-Death Experience - Near-Death Experiences and the Afterlife

Near-Death Experiences and the Afterlife profiles Mellen-Thomas Benedict's Near-Death Experience . Did you enjoy reading this post, we have more!

near-death.com

 

[Stryder50]

In another section of this board there is this thread and a post I made there fits here as an excellent thumbnail "elevator pitch" as to a major aspect of this thread.
Aliens: Are we sceptical of their existence or just too frightened to admit that they do?
...

They come to steal our wimmin

They already have, long ago.
The full story and details are in the posts at this thread;
The Geminga Scenario

A quick version to ponder, consider, is in the Old Testament, Book of Genesis*, Chapter 6, verses 1-6;
...

6 1- When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2; the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3;Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

4;The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

5;The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6;The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.
... Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 6:1-6 - New International Version
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Further considerations:
*1) Old Testament Book of Genesis is Hebrew plagiarize of earlier written records of Sumer/Akkad/Babylon origin/sources.

2) The Nephilim are synonymous with Sumerian Anunnaki - a Non-Terrestrial species/race of very human-like beings who per Sumerian history, "created humans" for their own purposes - supposedly to provide a race/species of workers/slaves to serve the "Gods"/Anunnaki.

3) Line 2 above in Ancient Hebrew translates in plurals: "the sons of the Gods". A.K.A. 'the sons of the Anunnaki'.

4) In order for those "sons of the gods" to mate with human females and produce offspring, both would require compatible DNA**.

5) Those earliest Sumerian histories recount how the Anunnaki blended their essence(DNA) with early hominids ("ape-man") to create a mutation which could also be see as an accelerated evolution product.

** 6) This meant that homo-sapiens are half Earthly, half ET. ***

* 7) While humans have close, nearly matching DNA, relations to other simians(apes); chimps, gorillas, Orangutans; those apes have their DNA arranged as two strands of 24 chromosomes for a total of 48, whereas humans have their chromosomes arranged in two strands of 23 each for a total of 46. **

**** Which implies that the Anunnaki might(must) also have their DNA arranged as 2x23=46 in order for their mating with humans to be able to create offspring from such coitus.

A bottom-line consideration here is that the Anunnaki~ET have been on Earth since before we humans, and in fact created we humans as a mix-breed species that they can also interbreed with. This makes us humans into half-breed mutants, have of Earth, other half of Non-Terrestrial origin.

It could be said that evidence of ET(Aliens) here on Earth can be found within our genes.

 

[Stryder50]

i asked about the Planet 9

Does our solar system have a hidden planet? Neil deGrasse Tyson explains​

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Kind of ...

 

[Stryder50]

Another facet here is the presence of Anunnaki around the planet back to 300,000+ years ago. This may hint to one location of their earlier influence.

Archaeological breakthrough contradicts the timeline of human civilization​

....
Archaeologists and historians have long been stumped by an unsolved mystery concerning the well-inhabited islands of Southeast Asia, which were populated long ago.

To inhabit the islands, it is assumed that technological advancements in seafaring, beyond what was considered possible during the Paleolithic era, or in the Old Stone Age, were necessary.

These experts pondering the question may have a shocking new answer, as new research suggests that the ancient people of the Philippines and the ISEA may have mastered seafaring well before anyone else.

A new study, published in the Journal of Archaeological Science, challenges the accepted belief that technological progress during the Paleolithic era was centered in Africa and Europe.

The monumental archaeological evidence consists of stone tools excavated at sites in the Philippines, Indonesia, and Timor-Leste, providing strong evidence that, as early as 40,000 years ago, these ancient seafarers demonstrated technological sophistication that rivals that of much later civilizations.

The challenge to prove seafaring history comes from the fact that organic wood and fiber, which were likely used in the construction of Paleolithic seacraft, rarely survive in the archaeological record.
...

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There is also the situation of settling the islands of the central to Western Pacific.

 

[Stryder50]

This title is a bait one, but this is a handy list of the first civs ....

20 Ancient Civilizations That May Have Never Been Human​

These ancient civilizations, though real and human-made, continue to inspire myths that they were built or guided by something other than humankind.

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[Stryder50]

A bump to the forefront again for those who wonder about ET~"Aliens"~"UFOs", etc.
The background here is more complex and varied than many would like to deal with, and has no one, single answer since many species~beings/agencies/cultures are involved over the span of human pre-history and in the development of human history in this Solar System.

 

[Stryder50]

Interesting thread, mainly for the link in the OP, and the links within that link;

Remembering the Barbary Slaves: White Slaves and North African Pirates.

Remembering the Barbary Slaves: White Slaves and North African Pirates​

Remembering the Barbary Slaves: White Slaves and North African Pirates | Ancient Origins

Between the 1600s and 1900s Barbary pirates captured and enslaved up to 1.25 million Europeans, who came to be known as the white slaves of Barbary. What fate awaited them in North Africa?

www.ancient-origins.net

Such as;

The Origins of Human Beings According to Ancient Sumerian Texts | Ancient Origins

From Clay to Creation. Sumerian texts, reveal the tale of Adapa, shaped from clay by the gods, and the epic journey that forever changed the fate of humanity.

www.ancient-origins.net

Home page of a helpful reference site;

News | Ancient Origins

www.ancient-origins.net

Welcome to Ancient Origins Magazine | Ancient Origins Magazine

Welcome to Ancient Origins Magazine

ancientoriginsmagazine.com

 

[Stryder50]

As we see too often with "click bait" on the web, most of these are not "Lost", except to those who know little to nothing of global history.
So here just for a reference sake, and many likely had some Anunnaki influence.

15 Lost Civilizations That Shaped History, Ranked by Impact​

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[BackAgain]

Can anything which exists have come to exist without having been created?

What thing which we recognize as existing came to exist without first having been created?

I have heard that neither matter nor energy can be created or destroyed but they can be converted from matter into energy or energy into matter (respectively).

Does it concern anyone that these don’t add up, together?