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The President pardoned them all.Only Congress can call for troops. Lincoln trashed the Constitution on that one. But he trashed the Constitution many more times than that.The Civil War wasdon't destroy them, but because they are part of american history - take the damn things down & put them in museums.
they don't need to be 'honored' for being the traitors that they were.
They were forgiven for being traitors by the very people that fought them.
Why do you assume your view outweighs the people that bled to fight them?
sure sure. like benedict arnold was ' forgiven '. the only 'forgiving' should be done by the ancesters of people they fought to own.
& the south ain't gonna rise again, so get over it.
there is no honor in fighting for the right to own people.
Actually he wasn't forgiven by his contemporaries.
And you are going back to standard progspeak instead of directly responding to my statement.
the civil war was about treason & slavery.
there is nothing to honor regarding that action nor the ideology behind it. to have them out in public to be adorned is pathetic. put them in museums, so those that are still on the wrong side of history can have their circlejerks for the price of admission. i think i've answered yer question.
The South fought for human slavery then.The South was right.
The Confederate Flag you so proudly wave today ... is in fact a symbol of hate and an inspiration for racist terrorists....
“On Wednesday evening, a 21-year-old white South Carolina man murdered 9 black people at the Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina. This was an act of violence reminiscent of the September 15, 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church. For generations, the confederate flag has represented the terror and violence perpetrated on Black communities....”
Take down the confederate flag from the South Carolina Capitol
Every day in Chicago Blacks kill Blacks just like they do in every other Democrat controlled big city shithole and I never hear you stupid Moon Bats bitch about it.
You are confused about the Civil War. You must only have a Jr High School history text knoweldge of the war, which would explain your ingnorance.
Let me suggest something to educate you.
My Great, Great, Grandfather fought in the Civil War for the Confederacy in the 9th Florida Regiment.
During the time he wrote almost 200 letters describing his participation. We have donated those letters to the University of Florida and they are in the archives in the library.
Go read those letters if you really want to know why men like him fought. He says it very clearly in the letters. It was because the Yankee filth was coming to kill Americans and destroy American homes. It wasn't to protect slavery. At that time there were very few slaves in Central Florida and he did not own any. He was a Libertarian that just wanted to be left alone and the Union filth was trying to destroy his freedom.
He fought in the Battle of Olustee where the shithead Union Army was sent to Florida to kill and destroy.
Don't be ignorant. It just makes you look foolish when you post ignorant shit.
Before I read any letters, you should read the Cornerstone Speech, delivered by the Vice-President of the Confederate states of America.
Yes, the Union soldiers came in to return the southern states to the Union. I, personally, am very happy they did. I am a patriotic American.
You are confused, aren't you?
The Confederate soldier didn't fight for rich people to maintain slaves. They fought to keep the Union filth from killing and destroying. That is what is in my Grandfather's letters and the chronicles of many other Confederate soldiers.
I bet that your Jr High text didn't even mention that one third of the Confederate States first voted not to secede but changed their minds when that piece of shit Lincoln said he was going to raise an army to kill Americans.
Lincoln raised his regiments of hate to kill Americans.
Davis raised his regiments of patriots to defend against destruction.Wrong. More than 4 Union States had slavery during the Civil War.It was OK for the Union to still have slavery. You didnt know that? Union States still had slavery at the time of the Civil War.The hundreds of thousands of black Union soldiers, the runaway slaves, most white Union soldiers by the end of the war, like Abraham Lincoln and the Republican Party leadership, all became determined to end slavery once and for all. They learned, the hard way, what most only suspected before — that until human slavery was destroyed root and branch there would be no peace and no Union.What were Union soldiers fighting for?
After the bloody rebellion and all the killing and dying, NOT to have passed the constitutional amendments legally abolishing slavery and granting citizenship rights to African Americans would have been an unthinkable betrayal of America’s future and the ideals of its original Declaration of Independence.
Of course I knew that. 4 states that did not secede allowed slavery. In fact, if you had been paying attention you would have seen I addressed that earlier. Or do you just post without reading replies?
You are confused. Your Jr High text book didn't cover everything, did it?
All of the Southern States had legal slavery, just like the rest of the United States. Slavery was absolutely legal in the United States.
When South Carolina seceded so did several other states like my beloved Florida a few months later.
However, four states (Virginia, North Carolina, Arkansas and Tennessee) Legislatures first voted to not secede but then changed their minds when that asshole Lincoln declared that he was going to raise an army of 75,000 to kill Americans.
Like I said; Lincoln raised his regiments to kill Americans and Davis raised his regiment to defend against the killing.
Define Tyrant.
The really despicable thing that Lincoln did was break the truce at Ft Sumter.
President Buchanan had established an informal but yet effective truce in the secession states regarding Federal facilities. He knew that could be something that could spark hostilities.
The arrangement at Ft Sumter was the Feds could maintain control of the fort but they couldn't fortify it. Supplies were to bought locally. The troops that guarded the fort were not to be harassed. In fact they all lived off post and some were married to Southern women.
One of the first things that asshole Lincoln did after taking office was to break that truce by sending a supply ship to Ft Sumter. He did it without approval from his cabinet or anybody.
He did it to provoke hostilities.
Lincoln started the goddamn war.
Of course Ft Sumter has always been a fake news story. The real war started when that asshole Lincoln his filthy army of thugs across the Potomac River river to kill Americans.Gen Robert E Lee was indicted for treason. President Jefferson Davis was arrested and jailed for treason. Admiral Raphael Semmes was arrested and jailed for treason and piracy. None of them could be found guilty since secession was legal.No one tried to take the southern leaders to Court the President pardoned them all.Once again for the mentally handicapped...
Nothing in the Constitution prohibited the secession of States.
The 10th Amendment says anything not covered by the Constitution is left up to the States.
The Confederate States voted to secede from the Union. The best lawyers the US had could not ever win a treason case against Confederate leaders.