The fight goes on in Texas

[bodecea]

Thinkprogress lolzerz.

Refute the poll.

Not worth it because polls are not worth it. For topics like this its all about how you ask the question, and where you take your sample from.

Polls work for simple things like "who are you going to vote for" because its a binary solution set. Topics like this depend too much on how the question is asked, because a % of people will simply select the positive or negative choice depending on the wording or the fact that they are idiots.

Ah....I see.

 

[martybegan]

Refute the poll.

Not worth it because polls are not worth it. For topics like this its all about how you ask the question, and where you take your sample from.

Polls work for simple things like "who are you going to vote for" because its a binary solution set. Topics like this depend too much on how the question is asked, because a % of people will simply select the positive or negative choice depending on the wording or the fact that they are idiots.

Ah....I see.

You know as well as I do that polls like this rely 100% on how you ask the question. How about we start saying 5+ months instead of 20 weeks for where the restriction is going to be placed. 20 weeks sounds clinical, 5+ months makes it sound far more along in the pregnancy.

Semantics can bite you in the ass as well as help you.

 

[BlindBoo]

Not surprising that Gov. Perry would use a special session to try and pull off something underhanded like this. The Majority in Texas fell we have enough restrictions on abortion and this is just a waste of tax payer money as this will likely wind up in the Courts.

If the majority thinks there are enough regs why was a filibuster needed to stop its passage?

Why does he need to do it in a special session?

62% of Texans believe we have enough restrictions on abortion as it is.

Judges Strike Down Arizona's 20-Week Abortion Ban | Mother Jones

 

[BlindBoo]

Not surprising that Gov. Perry would use a special session to try and pull off something underhanded like this. The Majority in Texas fell we have enough restrictions on abortion and this is just a waste of tax payer money as this will likely wind up in the Courts.

You're not speaking for the majority. Most people in TX support the law.

The loud mouthed malcontent bed wetters in Austin are not representative of the rest of the state.

Oddly enough you're correct, but redistricting will not keep them in power during the coming decade.

A majority of Texans oppose the legislation currently being considered by the legislature that imposes restrictions on abortion and 80 percent do not want abortion to be raised during the special session of the legislature called at the end of May by Governor Rick Perry.

Of registered voters, 63 percent say the state has enough restrictions on abortion and 71 percent thinking that the Governor and legislature should be more focused on the economy and jobs. A majority opposes the sort of legislation passed by the state Senate and being considered by the state House during this legislative Special Session, believing that it imposes further restrictions on abortion. Overall, only 34 percent trust the Governor and the legislature to make decisions about women's healthcare.

The following memo is based on a statewide survey of 601 registered voters in Texas, conducted June 17 – 19, 2013. These data are subject to a margin of error of +/- 4.0 percentage points at a 95 percent confidence level. The survey is representative of the Texas electorate. Among those surveyed, 49 percent self-identify as Republicans and 37 percent identify as Democrats; ideologically, 46 percent say they are conservative, 33 percent identify as moderates, and 15 percent are liberal.


Texas Voters Oppose Governor Perry's Omnibus Abortion Bill - GQR

 

[martybegan]

Not surprising that Gov. Perry would use a special session to try and pull off something underhanded like this. The Majority in Texas fell we have enough restrictions on abortion and this is just a waste of tax payer money as this will likely wind up in the Courts.

You're not speaking for the majority. Most people in TX support the law.

The loud mouthed malcontent bed wetters in Austin are not representative of the rest of the state.

Oddly enough you're correct, but redistricting will not keep them in power during the coming decade.

A majority of Texans oppose the legislation currently being considered by the legislature that imposes restrictions on abortion and 80 percent do not want abortion to be raised during the special session of the legislature called at the end of May by Governor Rick Perry.

Of registered voters, 63 percent say the state has enough restrictions on abortion and 71 percent thinking that the Governor and legislature should be more focused on the economy and jobs. A majority opposes the sort of legislation passed by the state Senate and being considered by the state House during this legislative Special Session, believing that it imposes further restrictions on abortion. Overall, only 34 percent trust the Governor and the legislature to make decisions about women's healthcare.

The following memo is based on a statewide survey of 601 registered voters in Texas, conducted June 17 – 19, 2013. These data are subject to a margin of error of +/- 4.0 percentage points at a 95 percent confidence level. The survey is representative of the Texas electorate. Among those surveyed, 49 percent self-identify as Republicans and 37 percent identify as Democrats; ideologically, 46 percent say they are conservative, 33 percent identify as moderates, and 15 percent are liberal.


Texas Voters Oppose Governor Perry's Omnibus Abortion Bill - GQR

A 600 person sample set? Really?

 

[BlindBoo]

Not surprising that Gov. Perry would use a special session to try and pull off something underhanded like this. The Majority in Texas fell we have enough restrictions on abortion and this is just a waste of tax payer money as this will likely wind up in the Courts.

60% of Texans support the Bill.

63% of Texans believe we have enough laws restricting abortion and lawmakers in Austin need to focus on real issues.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Not surprising that Gov. Perry would use a special session to try and pull off something underhanded like this. The Majority in Texas fell we have enough restrictions on abortion and this is just a waste of tax payer money as this will likely wind up in the Courts.

60% of Texans support the Bill.

Oh?

POLL: Majority Of Texans Don't Support The Abortion Restrictions Moving Through The Legislature | ThinkProgress

Yeah...
Texas Late-Term Abortion Ban Has the Support of 62% of Texas Residents | LifeNews.com

 

[martybegan]

60% of Texans support the Bill.

Oh?

POLL: Majority Of Texans Don't Support The Abortion Restrictions Moving Through The Legislature | ThinkProgress

Yeah...
Texas Late-Term Abortion Ban Has the Support of 62% of Texas Residents | LifeNews.com

Of particular note in the article:

Media outlets have been reporting on various polls trying to make the case that the legislation is unpopular. However, all these polls show is that — even in a red state like Texas – abortion polls can be easily manipulated.

A poll commissioned by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner asked a series of loaded questions. They found that a majority of Texans think that there are enough pro-life laws on the books and feel that legislature should be focusing on other issues. This all may be true, but that does not mean SB5 itself is unpopular. Majorities also think that abortion decisions should be made by a woman and her doctor. However, abortion survey questions that include the tacit approval of medical professionals inevitably bias the responder toward greater support for legal abortion.

So basically one question that appeals to the libertarian side of Texans, and a 2nd that implies doctor approval.

Sneaky, Sneaky question bias.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

POLL: Majority Of Texans Don't Support The Abortion Restrictions Moving Through The Legislature | ThinkProgress

Here.

Thinkprogress lolzerz.

Refute the poll.

Stop cherry picking from your search,and you can refute it your damn self.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Oh?

POLL: Majority Of Texans Don't Support The Abortion Restrictions Moving Through The Legislature | ThinkProgress

Yeah...
Texas Late-Term Abortion Ban Has the Support of 62% of Texas Residents | LifeNews.com

Of particular note in the article:

Media outlets have been reporting on various polls trying to make the case that the legislation is unpopular. However, all these polls show is that — even in a red state like Texas – abortion polls can be easily manipulated.

A poll commissioned by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner asked a series of loaded questions. They found that a majority of Texans think that there are enough pro-life laws on the books and feel that legislature should be focusing on other issues. This all may be true, but that does not mean SB5 itself is unpopular. Majorities also think that abortion decisions should be made by a woman and her doctor. However, abortion survey questions that include the tacit approval of medical professionals inevitably bias the responder toward greater support for legal abortion.

So basically one question that appeals to the libertarian side of Texans, and a 2nd that implies doctor approval.

Sneaky, Sneaky question bias.

After living here for over forty years,the only way they could get the numbers media matters(lLOL)came up with would be to cheat the question or poll only in Austin.

 

[BlindBoo]

60% of Texans support the Bill.

Oh?

POLL: Majority Of Texans Don't Support The Abortion Restrictions Moving Through The Legislature | ThinkProgress

Yeah...
Texas Late-Term Abortion Ban Has the Support of 62% of Texas Residents | LifeNews.com

We already ban late term abortions. Even according to your source 47% oppose more restriction or support less restrictions. only 38% support more restrictions.....

 

[Avatar4321]

Not surprising that Gov. Perry would use a special session to try and pull off something underhanded like this. The Majority in Texas fell we have enough restrictions on abortion and this is just a waste of tax payer money as this will likely wind up in the Courts.

How is doing their jobs underhanded?

 

[Avatar4321]

The photo of her in the Houston Chronicle this morning made me want to punch her in the face.
She's so proud of herself.

Violent tendencies?


Davis has a right to be proud of herself. She's awesome!

Awesome... Not exactly a term for someone who opposed to protecting childrens lives and making sure abortion clinics are up to standards. But hey to each his or her own.

 

[Agit8r]

Cops with riot gear are OK in this situation ?

Well, Perry saw how the Turks responded to outrageous theocracy...

 

[Avatar4321]

Cops with riot gear are OK in this situation ?

Well, Perry saw how the Turks responded to outrageous theocracy...

Completely irrelevant to the thread. But im sure you know that already.

 

[auditor0007]

Not surprising that Gov. Perry would use a special session to try and pull off something underhanded like this. The Majority in Texas fell we have enough restrictions on abortion and this is just a waste of tax payer money as this will likely wind up in the Courts.

If the majority thinks there are enough regs why was a filibuster needed to stop its passage?

Blindpoo is blind to the facts and invents his/her own. He/She has no clue what the majority of us Texans think. The fact that Texas has been a red state for so long ought to give you an indication of the beliefs of the majority and those beliefs contradict Blindpoo's opinion.

What are you cons going to do when Texas turns blue?

 

[Avatar4321]

If the majority thinks there are enough regs why was a filibuster needed to stop its passage?

Blindpoo is blind to the facts and invents his/her own. He/She has no clue what the majority of us Texans think. The fact that Texas has been a red state for so long ought to give you an indication of the beliefs of the majority and those beliefs contradict Blindpoo's opinion.

What are you cons going to do when Texas turns blue?

Turn it back

 

[NLT]

If the majority thinks there are enough regs why was a filibuster needed to stop its passage?

Blindpoo is blind to the facts and invents his/her own. He/She has no clue what the majority of us Texans think. The fact that Texas has been a red state for so long ought to give you an indication of the beliefs of the majority and those beliefs contradict Blindpoo's opinion.

What are you cons going to do when Texas turns blue?

Lay off the meth doper

 

[Agit8r]

Cops with riot gear are OK in this situation ?

Well, Perry saw how the Turks responded to outrageous theocracy...

Completely irrelevant to the thread. But im sure you know that already.

I think it's a pretty fair comparison. Though Turkey may have a bit more democratic government than Texas does...

 

[auditor0007]

Blindpoo is blind to the facts and invents his/her own. He/She has no clue what the majority of us Texans think. The fact that Texas has been a red state for so long ought to give you an indication of the beliefs of the majority and those beliefs contradict Blindpoo's opinion.

What are you cons going to do when Texas turns blue?

Lay off the meth doper

Yea, you guys were telling me the same thing when I told you Obama would win with 332 electoral votes. Keep the blinders on fool.