The Fall of Russia

[JohnDB]

The Russian Ruble is in free fall. Gazprom had to stop buying Rubles....out of money.

The telephone networks are off.
The Russian Internet is off.
The banks have closed.
The last remaining year round port in Syria is about to fall too as Syria is falling and Assad is hiding out in Moscow. (Turkey gets that port and India is controlling the Black Sea).

Russian troops, not getting paid, are either running off or surrendering.

The famous "Dead Man Switch" is worthless as it is unlikely that the massive number of land based Nuclear Missiles are viable anymore as they once were 40 years ago. (Putin has NOT kept up with maintenance which is very expensive. The USA spends 50 billion each year to maintain ours....Putin spends that on his entire military...and not anything on his nukes)

So....

Forward looking problems:

Nuclear materials for sale on the black market to terrorist groups.
Russian mafia reforms
Worse leader than Putin rises to power in Russia.
China takes massive advantage of the situation and attacks Taiwan and sections of Russia.

What say you?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Russian Ruble is in free fall. Gazprom had to stop buying Rubles....out of money.

The telephone networks are off.
The Russian Internet is off.
The banks have closed.
The last remaining year round port in Syria is about to fall too as Syria is falling and Assad is hiding out in Moscow. (Turkey gets that port and India is controlling the Black Sea).

Russian troops, not getting paid, are either running off or surrendering.

The famous "Dead Man Switch" is worthless as it is unlikely that the massive number of land based Nuclear Missiles are viable anymore as they once were 40 years ago. (Putin has NOT kept up with maintenance which is very expensive. The USA spends 50 billion each year to maintain ours....Putin spends that on his entire military...and not anything on his nukes)

So....

Forward looking problems:

Nuclear materials for sale on the black market to terrorist groups.
Russian mafia reforms
Worse leader than Putin rises to power in Russia.
China takes massive advantage of the situation and attacks Taiwan and sections of Russia.

What say you?

Yeah, but they're this close to taking Poland and Germany.

 

[para bellum]

What say you?

I think you should post your source, since everything you posted here appears to be nonsense.

Russia has a large National Wealth Fund, and it has tapped it in the last couple years to meet budget deficits but it's nowhere near insolvent.

The defense budget has grown each year of the past 3, to about $135 Bn this year. (We spent $18.8 Bn on nuclear weapons modernization last year)

Russian posters on this board seem to be able to access the Internet fine, I assume their cell phones still work as well. The milbloggers are still posting, etc.

There was a drop this week in the ruble about 10% after gazprombank (and others) were hit with additional sanctions, but that has since recovered according to the Central Bank, the rate rose to 105 to the dollar, and the Central Bank has halted foreign currency purchases.

The Russian economy has been on a war footing for 2+ years and there is no reason to think they can't continue what they have been doing. It isn't great- interest rates are high, but they are a long way from collapsing.

 

[JohnDB]

I think you should post your source, since everything you posted here appears to be nonsense.

Russia has a large National Wealth Fund, and it has tapped it in the last couple years to meet budget deficits but it's nowhere near insolvent.

The defense budget has grown each year of the past 3, to about $135 Bn this year. (We spent $18.8 Bn on nuclear weapons modernization last year)

Russian posters on this board seem to be able to access the Internet fine, I assume their cell phones still work as well. The milbloggers are still posting, etc.

There was a drop this week in the ruble about 10% after gazprombank (and others) were hit with additional sanctions, but that has since recovered according to the Central Bank, the rate rose to 105 to the dollar, and the Central Bank has halted foreign currency purchases.

The Russian economy has been on a war footing for 2+ years and there is no reason to think they can't continue what they have been doing. It isn't great- interest rates are high, but they are a long way from collapsing.

Mill bloggers are not the same as residential internet.

 

[toobfreak]

What say you?

How about some documentation of this?

 

[JohnDB]

The defense budget has grown each year of the past 3, to about $135 Bn this year. (We spent $18.8 Bn on nuclear weapons modernization last year)

That money is barely enough to upkeep the nukes on a sub or for warheads on a cruise missile....maybe a mix of some of both. But not for 6,000 warheads. Sorry, the math doesn't work. Materials are commodity priced even if you can conscript nuclear physicists...
And just because Russia has created a war economy to replace the massively overused and outdated equipment (like howitzers) the barrels on the armored equipment still needs replacing after being used the way it has been. (It will blow up otherwise as its being fired) That doesn't mean it's capable of refurbishing a significant portion of its nuclear arsenal.

And a submarine needs a port. The Syrian port is going to be lost....so that just leaves the North Sea....which ought to be pretty frozen by now until May. Good luck with that. I don't think Cyprus is going to allow Russian ships.

 

[JohnDB]

How about some documentation of this?

 

[para bellum]

Mill bloggers are not the same as residential internet.

Many of them post from their phones doofus.

That money is barely enough to upkeep the nukes on a sub or for warheads on a cruise missile....maybe a mix of some of both. But not for 6,000 warheads. Sorry, the math doesn't work.

Jesus Christ just look at the budget.

https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/articles/presidents-fiscal-year-2024-nnsa-budget-enables-modernization-and-strengthens-nations

 

[para bellum]

This is your source? A guy on twitter who is rabidly anti-Russia and has been saying Russia is about to collapse for the last two years?

I think you're channeling Litwin now.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[para bellum]

^^^ The thread is "The Fall of Russia".

Still waiting for your evidence...

 

[JohnDB]

^^^ The thread is "The Fall of Russia".

Still waiting for your evidence...

You wouldn't accept it even if it was a video of Putin admitting it. Let's get real.

 

[toobfreak]

A tweet is WORTHLESS. I don't know this person from Adam and have no idea his veracity.
I'm talking about a link to a bone fide NEWS AGENCY.
If all this is happening, shouldn't it be a big news story?

 

[JohnDB]

A tweet is WORTHLESS. I don't know this person from Adam and have no idea his veracity.
I'm talking about a link to a bone fide NEWS AGENCY.
If all this is happening, shouldn't it be a big news story?

You have to watch the news to see this.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The Russian Ruble is in free fall. Gazprom had to stop buying Rubles....out of money.

The telephone networks are off.
The Russian Internet is off.
The banks have closed.
The last remaining year round port in Syria is about to fall too as Syria is falling and Assad is hiding out in Moscow. (Turkey gets that port and India is controlling the Black Sea).

Russian troops, not getting paid, are either running off or surrendering.

The famous "Dead Man Switch" is worthless as it is unlikely that the massive number of land based Nuclear Missiles are viable anymore as they once were 40 years ago. (Putin has NOT kept up with maintenance which is very expensive. The USA spends 50 billion each year to maintain ours....Putin spends that on his entire military...and not anything on his nukes)

So....

Forward looking problems:

Nuclear materials for sale on the black market to terrorist groups.
Russian mafia reforms
Worse leader than Putin rises to power in Russia.
China takes massive advantage of the situation and attacks Taiwan and sections of Russia.

What say you?

WTF are you babbling about? Where is your link to this info? Do better!

 

[shockedcanadian]

The Russian Ruble is in free fall. Gazprom had to stop buying Rubles....out of money.

The telephone networks are off.
The Russian Internet is off.
The banks have closed.
The last remaining year round port in Syria is about to fall too as Syria is falling and Assad is hiding out in Moscow. (Turkey gets that port and India is controlling the Black Sea).

Russian troops, not getting paid, are either running off or surrendering.

The famous "Dead Man Switch" is worthless as it is unlikely that the massive number of land based Nuclear Missiles are viable anymore as they once were 40 years ago. (Putin has NOT kept up with maintenance which is very expensive. The USA spends 50 billion each year to maintain ours....Putin spends that on his entire military...and not anything on his nukes)

So....

Forward looking problems:

Nuclear materials for sale on the black market to terrorist groups.
Russian mafia reforms
Worse leader than Putin rises to power in Russia.
China takes massive advantage of the situation and attacks Taiwan and sections of Russia.

What say you?

The Axis must be brought down to a weaken state. This is going to require the effort of all governments and citizens in the West.

 

[toobfreak]

You have to watch the news to see this.

I devour the news. I've not seen one report about this.

Just did a search on the fall of Russia--- Got nuttin' honey.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[JohnDB]

I devour the news. I've not seen one report about this.

Just did a search on the fall of Russia--- Got nuttin' honey.

Hasn't fallen yet but it's very close....
Between Georgia, Syria, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Sanctions, Banking, telephone and internet...
Troops surrendering or running in huge droves...
Putin is pulling out last ditch efforts to hold it all together.