The Everywhere Is Warming Faster Than Everywhere Thread

[whitehall]

The Mid-Atlantic has had a wet spring and Chicago is still shoveling snow? A typical climate year among the relatively short geological 20 thousand year time since the last Ice Age. Why are lefties whining about the nice weather? Who freaking knows?

 

[daveman]

Massaged and cherry-picked data says he got within 30%. Sucker.

you're hopeless son.

Coming from a cultist, that's absolutely meaningless.

Yer damn right it is, but you are confused about who's in the cult, denier.

You sure you wanna go with that?

Professor: Global Warming “Deniers” Should be Executed

All Hail the Planet! 'Immorality of climate-change denial': NYT's Krugman accuses Congressmen who voted against climate bill of 'treason against the planet!'

Intimidating the “Deniers” to Enforce the “Consensus”

‘Execute’ Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: ‘At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers’ — ‘Shouldn’t we start punishing them now?’

Chilling: Play titled 'Kill Climate Deniers' launches theatrical run

Climate change is a cult. There is no question. Your cultism is settled.

If it's you kids or the planet I know which way I'm going.

If you had science on your side, you wouldn't have to threaten those who disagree with you.

You lose, cultist.

 

[daveman]

The Mid-Atlantic has had a wet spring and Chicago is still shoveling snow? A typical climate year among the relatively short geological 20 thousand year time since the last Ice Age. Why are lefties whining about the nice weather? Who freaking knows?

PLANT FOOD IS GOING TO KILL US WORLD SOCIALISM IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE US

 

[Crepitus]

you're hopeless son.

Coming from a cultist, that's absolutely meaningless.

Yer damn right it is, but you are confused about who's in the cult, denier.

You sure you wanna go with that?

Professor: Global Warming “Deniers” Should be Executed

All Hail the Planet! 'Immorality of climate-change denial': NYT's Krugman accuses Congressmen who voted against climate bill of 'treason against the planet!'

Intimidating the “Deniers” to Enforce the “Consensus”

‘Execute’ Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: ‘At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers’ — ‘Shouldn’t we start punishing them now?’

Chilling: Play titled 'Kill Climate Deniers' launches theatrical run

Climate change is a cult. There is no question. Your cultism is settled.

If it's you kids or the planet I know which way I'm going.

If you had science on your side, you wouldn't have to threaten those who disagree with you.

You lose, cultist.

Lol, where did I threaten anything?

 

[daveman]

Coming from a cultist, that's absolutely meaningless.

Yer damn right it is, but you are confused about who's in the cult, denier.

You sure you wanna go with that?

Professor: Global Warming “Deniers” Should be Executed

All Hail the Planet! 'Immorality of climate-change denial': NYT's Krugman accuses Congressmen who voted against climate bill of 'treason against the planet!'

Intimidating the “Deniers” to Enforce the “Consensus”

‘Execute’ Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: ‘At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers’ — ‘Shouldn’t we start punishing them now?’

Chilling: Play titled 'Kill Climate Deniers' launches theatrical run

Climate change is a cult. There is no question. Your cultism is settled.

If it's you kids or the planet I know which way I'm going.

If you had science on your side, you wouldn't have to threaten those who disagree with you.

You lose, cultist.

Lol, where did I threaten anything?

Don't play stupid. I mean, you're not really playing, but it's clear what you meant. You would kill deniers if you could.

Good thing you're a coward, huh?

 

[Crepitus]

Yer damn right it is, but you are confused about who's in the cult, denier.

You sure you wanna go with that?

Professor: Global Warming “Deniers” Should be Executed

All Hail the Planet! 'Immorality of climate-change denial': NYT's Krugman accuses Congressmen who voted against climate bill of 'treason against the planet!'

Intimidating the “Deniers” to Enforce the “Consensus”

‘Execute’ Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: ‘At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers’ — ‘Shouldn’t we start punishing them now?’

Chilling: Play titled 'Kill Climate Deniers' launches theatrical run

Climate change is a cult. There is no question. Your cultism is settled.

If it's you kids or the planet I know which way I'm going.

If you had science on your side, you wouldn't have to threaten those who disagree with you.

You lose, cultist.

Lol, where did I threaten anything?

Don't play stupid. I mean, you're not really playing, but it's clear what you meant. You would kill deniers if you could.

Good thing you're a coward, huh?

Actually yes I am playing with you.

It's kinda fun because you kids will just believe anything that supports your bias with a seconds thought.

 

[daveman]

You sure you wanna go with that?

Professor: Global Warming “Deniers” Should be Executed

All Hail the Planet! 'Immorality of climate-change denial': NYT's Krugman accuses Congressmen who voted against climate bill of 'treason against the planet!'

Intimidating the “Deniers” to Enforce the “Consensus”

‘Execute’ Skeptics! Shock Call To Action: ‘At what point do we jail or execute global warming deniers’ — ‘Shouldn’t we start punishing them now?’

Chilling: Play titled 'Kill Climate Deniers' launches theatrical run

Climate change is a cult. There is no question. Your cultism is settled.

If it's you kids or the planet I know which way I'm going.

If you had science on your side, you wouldn't have to threaten those who disagree with you.

You lose, cultist.

Lol, where did I threaten anything?

Don't play stupid. I mean, you're not really playing, but it's clear what you meant. You would kill deniers if you could.

Good thing you're a coward, huh?

Actually yes I am playing with you.

It's kinda fun because you kids will just believe anything that supports your bias with a seconds thought.

Sheer projection.

 

[Crepitus]

If it's you kids or the planet I know which way I'm going.

If you had science on your side, you wouldn't have to threaten those who disagree with you.

You lose, cultist.

Lol, where did I threaten anything?

Don't play stupid. I mean, you're not really playing, but it's clear what you meant. You would kill deniers if you could.

Good thing you're a coward, huh?

Actually yes I am playing with you.

It's kinda fun because you kids will just believe anything that supports your bias with a seconds thought.

Sheer projection.

I'm projecting that you kiddos are mildly amusing?

 

[daveman]

If you had science on your side, you wouldn't have to threaten those who disagree with you.

You lose, cultist.

Lol, where did I threaten anything?

Don't play stupid. I mean, you're not really playing, but it's clear what you meant. You would kill deniers if you could.

Good thing you're a coward, huh?

Actually yes I am playing with you.

It's kinda fun because you kids will just believe anything that supports your bias with a seconds thought.

Sheer projection.

I'm projecting that you kiddos are mildly amusing?

You're projecting that you believe anything that supports your bias without a second's thought.

 

[Dick Foster]

Stupidity.

Unquestionably.

So what's the correct temperature? Where on the thermometer should the planet be?

Ask the scientists.

The answer always seems to be "just a little bit cooler than we are right now, and world socialism is the only thing that can save us".

Not true. I didn't say "ask the RWNJs what they think the scientists would say".

Ask the scientists.

Ok, let’s ask these scientists- consensus my ass!

You do realize that if any lefttards watch this they'll get a very bad headache don't you?

 

[mamooth]

So are you for bombing coal plants in China and India to save the world?

As that's genocidal, you're hilariously stupid for suggesting it.

No? Build hundreds of nuclear power plants? No?

As that's insanely expensive, no. Renewables would give much better bang for buck. In your unicorn world, money doesn't matter, but it does matter to rational people.

You’re full of shit and know it’s all bullshit.

All you can do is weep out what you read on WUWT. The cult speaks, you repeat. The problem for you is they always say stupid things, so you always end up looking stupid. Don't you ever get tired of your cult leaders leaving you twisting in the wind?

 

[mamooth]

LOL! They admit they're massaging the data.

No, they didn't. Nothing in what you quoted said or implied that. You're just repeating idiot conspiracy theories, because your cult expects you to repeat them.

It sucks to be you, little cultist. All the data says you're making everything up, so all you can do is fake conspiracy theories about how the data is faked. It's not going to get any better for you. Your cult is reduced to a few morons howling on the internet. The data pointing out your fraud will keep piling up, you'll have to repeat dumber and dumber conspiracy theories to explain it, and the laughter directed at you will keep growing.

Why not jump off the sinking SS Denier before it goes down? After all, the smarter rats have already jumped ship.

 

[mamooth]

You sure you wanna go with that?

Obviously. Your side is composed of vicious violent cultists, while ours is the opposite.

Your scoured the whole internet and in the entire planet, and you could only found a very few bad people on our side. Congratulations, you just showed how incredibly rare it is to have bad people on our side.

In contrast, every single denier here, including you, is an open Stalinist who wants climate scientists jailed. If you disagree, then condemn the way the Republican party tried to prosecute Dr. Mann and other scientists.

You won't. I've asked over and over. Not a single denier will condemn TheParty's Stalinism. Quite the contrary, they're all thrilled by it.

The two sides here are totally different. The denier cultists are vicious Stalinists, while the rational people are democracy-minded.

 

[SSDD]

Ok, let’s ask these scientists- consensus my ass!

Those aren't climate scientists and you know it.

Sure, let’s believe Scientist Al Gore instead. After all he invented the Internet.

Here's some stuff from real scientists.

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

The “global warming” hoax: 30 years of failed predictions that never happened

Bullshit.
30 years later, deniers are still lying about Hansen’s amazing global warming prediction | Dana Nuccitelli

Bullshit...hansen was so far off that it is ridiculous....anyone who thinks otherwise is simply uninformed and quite stupid. Hansen's business as usual senario is the one that you wack jobs like to hold up as a success, but it wasn't business as usual. CO2 increased 25% over his business as usual estimate...had he calculated for a 25% increase in CO2 over the business as usual model, he would have projected even higher temperatures and been even further off. Then there is the fact that there were not one, but two very large El Nino events that served to raise temperatures. He didn't predict those and had no idea that they would happen. It was those El Nino events that raised temperatures enough to keep within shouting distance of the ballpark. Had those two events not happened, raising temperatures, he would have been off by more than 50%.

Hansen is a prime example of the old saying that even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes...sheer luck provided two very large el nino events to boost temperatures enough that to the uneducated, he would not look like an abject failure...To those of us who actually look at what happen, he is the failure we knew he was when he made his idiot predictions.

 

[SSDD]

The answer always seems to be "just a little bit cooler than we are right now, and world socialism is the only thing that can save us".

Not true. I didn't say "ask the RWNJs what they think the scientists would say".

Ask the scientists.

But according to the left, everyone on the left is an expert.

I'm asking you.

I don't know who you've been talking to but neither you nor I are experts on climate change. The scientists who are believe it's real and that's good enough for me.

And the definition of "global warming expert" is, of course, "a scientist who believes in global warming".

Circular logic is not logic at all.

Meanwhile, you don't know what the proper temperature of the planet is. You just know ITS WAY TO HIGH...because that's what you've been told.

Yes, the scientists do know what the temperature is supposed to be.

Do tell....What is the ideal temperature for life on earth...and what is the ideal CO2 concentration?

 

[SSDD]

Sure, let’s believe Scientist Al Gore instead. After all he invented the Internet.

Here's some stuff from real scientists.

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

The “global warming” hoax: 30 years of failed predictions that never happened

Bullshit.
30 years later, deniers are still lying about Hansen’s amazing global warming prediction | Dana Nuccitelli

Sure, let’s believe Scientist Al Gore instead. After all he invented the Internet.

Here's some stuff from real scientists.

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

The “global warming” hoax: 30 years of failed predictions that never happened

Bullshit.
30 years later, deniers are still lying about Hansen’s amazing global warming prediction | Dana Nuccitelli

The caption for the graph in your tabloid link:

Scenario B from Hansen’s 1988 paper, with the trend reduced by 27% to reflect the actual radiative forcing from 1984 to 2017, compared to global surface temperature data from Cowtan & Way.
​

LOL! They admit they're massaging the data.

And Cowtan & Way seem to start with their conclusion and work backwards.

Closing remarks

It very much looks that the trend break-point in the Cowtan and Way data is itself a result of a bias, and miserable failure, likely when trying to account for the positive polar amplification – the problem is that most likely in times when there is quite likely a negative one.

It very much looks there quite is no reason to believe there is a warming trend in the global surface temperatures at least since 2005 – and even much less because of a bias in the global surface temperature anomalies due to the allegedly insufficient coverage in the tropical and polar regions.

In fact the global sea-ice data supported by multiple other data-sets give quite a very compelling evidence to the contrary.

And data is what counts in the science, which has the method based on the falsification not a confirmation bias. If the data don’t agree with a hypothesis it is in the overwhelming majority of cases the hypothesis which is falsified, not the data.

In this case the extensive real data quite falsify a hypothesis literally based on no data (which are invented to make such hypothesis possible) moreover clearly postulated to significantly change the outcome of the real official data-set (whatever we maybe think about the Hadley Center, CRU and MetOffice at least it is based on real measurements and with still relatively conservative approach without infills when compared to other global data-sets as NCDC or GISTEMP LOTI*) and moreover for such purpose with quite clear intent to cast a doubt about the current at the very least flat if not a cooling global surface temperature anomaly trend.

Will we believe that while the ocean somewhere cools (-as Bob Tisdale shows for southern ocean – see the footnote – and there is virtually nothing else there than ocean between the Antarctica and the 60S) – which looks quite confirmed by the rising sea ice extent there and while the tropics cool too with quite impressive rate and moeover we do not find a rising temperature trend in Arctic in any of the two satellite datasets – will we really believe there is a warming trend? A warming somewhere (maybe in Antarctica and around, and most likely not) somehow able to change the whole most likely flat or descending global surface temperature anomaly trend into a warming one – moreover with a “hypothesis that warming has accelerated…four times as likely as the hypothesis that warming has stopped“? Or we will rather take it as for other reasons than a global warming overheated Cowtan and Way computers dream?

To put it differently: Besides the data, isn’t the pathetic effort to manufacture a global warming trend using HadCRUT4 dataset and cherrypicked satellite data perhaps to allow the CAGW meme persist a little bit more, deliberately or not, the best sign of cooling?​

He was looking 30 years into the future with limited data sets and still got within 30%?

Looks pretty amazing to me.

He got within 30% because he didn't calculate for 25% more CO2 in the atmosphere than he projected and two very large El Nino events pushed temperatures up for him. Had he calculated for an additional 25% more CO2 in the atmosphere and had those two unpredicted El Nino events not happened, he would have been off by so far that even you wack jobs would have been embarrassed for him. Instead, sheer luck kept him within 30%...not his skill as a climate scientist.

 

[SSDD]

Didn't expect any actual answer or argument from you crepitus...typical cowards response....truth hurts, doesn't it? What is it like to be such a dupe?

 

[jc456]

Or the ‘Define Average’ thread, your call

So, another one of your trolling threads. I see the other trolls have jumped on it, and the circle jerk has begun. It's all you denier cultists here are capable of.

An honest person would have, say, posted the projected temperature rise, so we can see what the average is. Like this.

See? Some areas above average, some below.

So why did you fake a story about how everything is above average? Was is out stupidity, or deliberate dishonesty?

an honest person? whoa, wait a minute, in your own words....

"An honest person would have, say, posted the projected temperature rise"

do you know what projected means?

you are so far from honest one can't tell what you are. honest would be the last word I'd ever use.

 

[daveman]

LOL! They admit they're massaging the data.

No, they didn't. Nothing in what you quoted said or implied that. You're just repeating idiot conspiracy theories, because your cult expects you to repeat them.

It sucks to be you, little cultist. All the data says you're making everything up, so all you can do is fake conspiracy theories about how the data is faked. It's not going to get any better for you. Your cult is reduced to a few morons howling on the internet. The data pointing out your fraud will keep piling up, you'll have to repeat dumber and dumber conspiracy theories to explain it, and the laughter directed at you will keep growing.

Why not jump off the sinking SS Denier before it goes down? After all, the smarter rats have already jumped ship.

"NO U". Devastating rebuttal. Popular among 3rd-graders everywhere.

And about all you're capable of. You're nothing more than a petulant child.

 

[daveman]

You sure you wanna go with that?

Obviously. Your side is composed of vicious violent cultists, while ours is the opposite.

Your scoured the whole internet and in the entire planet, and you could only found a very few bad people on our side. Congratulations, you just showed how incredibly rare it is to have bad people on our side.

In contrast, every single denier here, including you, is an open Stalinist who wants climate scientists jailed. If you disagree, then condemn the way the Republican party tried to prosecute Dr. Mann and other scientists.

You won't. I've asked over and over. Not a single denier will condemn TheParty's Stalinism. Quite the contrary, they're all thrilled by it.

The two sides here are totally different. The denier cultists are vicious Stalinists, while the rational people are democracy-minded.

Oh, look, yet another claim you won't back up. But that's only because you can't.

Run along, child.