17: but you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Per'izzites, the Hivites and the Jeb'usites, as the LORD your God has commanded;
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you seem to be hung on that same verse--------with no understanding of WHAT
IT WAS that was supposed to be stamped out--------Try reading other literature
from "classical times". ----------the wars were always described HYPERBOLICALLY -------------
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Islam opposed to knowledge and science
Islam is not opposed to knowledge and science. Knowledge is of two types: religious, which has to do with the understanding of the religious duties one is required to carry out, and temporal, which has to do with all that is needed to know with a view to living a comfortable and beneficial life.
A Muslim is required to acquire both types of knowledge. In fact, Islam advocated attaining knowledge and education at a time when the whole world was engulfed in utter ignorance. The first revelation the Prophet of Islam received from Allah was “Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created - Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood: Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- He Who taught (the use of) the pen,- Taught man that which he knew not.” (Quran 96:1-5)
These verses represent the first spark ever to dispel the darkness of ignorance and barbarianism in which the world had long been immersed. And Allah reminded the Muslims of His immeasurable favour to humankind, saying: “It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a messenger from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error” (Quran 62:2)
The early generations of Muslims became, in a matter of years, a learned and refined nation in religious as well as worldly matters, after having remained in the darkness of ignorance for centuries. Islam awakened in man the faculty of intellect and motivated him to serve Allah, the one true God.
Religious knowledge is essential, because, without it, one will not be able to perform his or her obligations in the prescribed manner. The Prophet said,
“To whomever He intends benefit, Allah grants understanding of the religion.”
Allah ordered the Prophet to pray to Him for advancement in knowledge "O my Lord! advance me in knowledge.” (Quran 20:114)
Beneficial worldly knowledge is also necessary, and Muslims are encouraged to acquire it in order to benefit themselves and their fellow men. When the early Muslims understood this fact, they surpassed other nations in development and productivity and carried the torch of knowledge for many centuries.
Islam made great advances in the fields of medicine, mathematics, physics, astronomy, geography, architecture, art, literature, and history, to mention but a few. Many important new procedures such as the use of algebra, Arabic numerals, and the concept of the zero –which was vital to the advancement of mathematics-, were transmitted to medieval Europe from Muslim countries. It was the Muslims who developed sophisticated instruments, including the astrolabe, the quadrant and good navigational maps which were to make possible the European voyages of discovery to the New World.
As T.W. Wallbank and A. Schrier put it:
“In medicine, mathematics, astronomy, chemistry and physics, Muslim achievements were particularly noteworthy. Well-equipped hospitals, usually associated with medical schools, were located in the principal cities. At a time when superstition still hampered the practice of medicine in western countries, Muslim physicians were diagnosing diseases, prescribing cures and performing advanced surgery... Probably the greatest of all physicians was the 9th century figure, Al-Razi, known in the West as Rhazes. He was the author of scores of scientific works, including a comprehensive medical encyclopaedia and a pioneering handbook on smallpox and measles.
A 10th century physician, Avicenna, (Ibn Sina) compiled a huge Cannon of Medicine which was considered the standard guide in European medical circles until the late 17th century... Important advances were made in algebra, analytical geometry and plane spherical trigonometry.”
The Quran itself is a book of guidance and it contains some amazing scientific facts. They are amazing because although they were revealed to Prophet Muhammad over 14 centuries ago, they were not really understood by man until scientists "discovered" them in very recent times. Although not meant to be a book of scientific facts as such, the Quran mentions certain realities that would only be recognized and appreciated through technological advancements in later centuries - further undeniable evidence and proof that it was not the work of Muhammad or of any person, but divine revelation from God.
"Ask the Sheikh" by Musa cerantonio ( Replacing Perfection ...
Islam is not opposed to knowledge and science. Knowledge is of two types: religious, which has to do with the understanding of the religious duties one is required to carry out, and temporal, which has to do with all that is needed to know with a view to living a comfortable and beneficial life.
A Muslim is required to acquire both types of knowledge. In fact, Islam advocated attaining knowledge and education at a time when the whole world was engulfed in utter ignorance. The first revelation the Prophet of Islam received from Allah was “Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created - Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood: Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- He Who taught (the use of) the pen,- Taught man that which he knew not.” (Quran 96:1-5)
These verses represent the first spark ever to dispel the darkness of ignorance and barbarianism in which the world had long been immersed. And Allah reminded the Muslims of His immeasurable favour to humankind, saying: “It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a messenger from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error” (Quran 62:2)
The early generations of Muslims became, in a matter of years, a learned and refined nation in religious as well as worldly matters, after having remained in the darkness of ignorance for centuries. Islam awakened in man the faculty of intellect and motivated him to serve Allah, the one true God.
Religious knowledge is essential, because, without it, one will not be able to perform his or her obligations in the prescribed manner. The Prophet said,
“To whomever He intends benefit, Allah grants understanding of the religion.”
Allah ordered the Prophet to pray to Him for advancement in knowledge "O my Lord! advance me in knowledge.” (Quran 20:114)
Beneficial worldly knowledge is also necessary, and Muslims are encouraged to acquire it in order to benefit themselves and their fellow men. When the early Muslims understood this fact, they surpassed other nations in development and productivity and carried the torch of knowledge for many centuries.
Islam made great advances in the fields of medicine, mathematics, physics, astronomy, geography, architecture, art, literature, and history, to mention but a few. Many important new procedures such as the use of algebra, Arabic numerals, and the concept of the zero –which was vital to the advancement of mathematics-, were transmitted to medieval Europe from Muslim countries. It was the Muslims who developed sophisticated instruments, including the astrolabe, the quadrant and good navigational maps which were to make possible the European voyages of discovery to the New World.
As T.W. Wallbank and A. Schrier put it:
“In medicine, mathematics, astronomy, chemistry and physics, Muslim achievements were particularly noteworthy. Well-equipped hospitals, usually associated with medical schools, were located in the principal cities. At a time when superstition still hampered the practice of medicine in western countries, Muslim physicians were diagnosing diseases, prescribing cures and performing advanced surgery... Probably the greatest of all physicians was the 9th century figure, Al-Razi, known in the West as Rhazes. He was the author of scores of scientific works, including a comprehensive medical encyclopaedia and a pioneering handbook on smallpox and measles.
A 10th century physician, Avicenna, (Ibn Sina) compiled a huge Cannon of Medicine which was considered the standard guide in European medical circles until the late 17th century... Important advances were made in algebra, analytical geometry and plane spherical trigonometry.”
The Quran itself is a book of guidance and it contains some amazing scientific facts. They are amazing because although they were revealed to Prophet Muhammad over 14 centuries ago, they were not really understood by man until scientists "discovered" them in very recent times. Although not meant to be a book of scientific facts as such, the Quran mentions certain realities that would only be recognized and appreciated through technological advancements in later centuries - further undeniable evidence and proof that it was not the work of Muhammad or of any person, but divine revelation from God.
"Ask the Sheikh" by Musa cerantonio ( Replacing Perfection ...
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Benjamin got married at age 10, how old do you think his wife was, and King David was a murderer and adulterer.
the utter bullshit presented by "toty" ----in which she characterizes the
chronically ILLITERATE masses of the UMMAH as somehow "educated because of allah" is actually part and parcel of the filth that Imams throw on the floor of mosques WEEKLY, the "KHUTBAH JUMAAT ----and muslims bend down, thrust their asses in the air and LICK UP. The fact is that islam is the mother of utter ignorance and utter lack of innovation in any field-----science, art, math,.......etc etc -------the ONLY innovation created by "THE UMMAH"---is new ways to murder innocent men women and children in "honor" of the dog in the sky and his pig pal----the big mo
There is no "science" in the Koran. The presently scorned jerk
super rich "IBN TALAL" paid a few marginals to write bullshit
articles claiming "science" in the Koran------their ain't none.
Muslims CONQUERED and exploited educated people and today
claim THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS THEIR OWN-----that includes
LITERATE Christians, Jews, Hindus, Zoroastrians and even
Egyptians and Greeks. Present Arabic script was lifted from the ZOROASTRIAN Farsi. Their ain't NUTHIN' in the world of science
art or philosophy which is actually "muslim" other than NEW AND INNOVATIVE, BARBARIC WAYS TO MURDER PEOPLE.
there is more "science" in the ODYSSEY than in the Koran.
For really glorious ancient writings-----read the Bhagavad Gita
or that writing commonly called "the Old Testament"
chronically ILLITERATE masses of the UMMAH as somehow "educated because of allah" is actually part and parcel of the filth that Imams throw on the floor of mosques WEEKLY, the "KHUTBAH JUMAAT ----and muslims bend down, thrust their asses in the air and LICK UP. The fact is that islam is the mother of utter ignorance and utter lack of innovation in any field-----science, art, math,.......etc etc -------the ONLY innovation created by "THE UMMAH"---is new ways to murder innocent men women and children in "honor" of the dog in the sky and his pig pal----the big mo
There is no "science" in the Koran. The presently scorned jerk
super rich "IBN TALAL" paid a few marginals to write bullshit
articles claiming "science" in the Koran------their ain't none.
Muslims CONQUERED and exploited educated people and today
claim THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS THEIR OWN-----that includes
LITERATE Christians, Jews, Hindus, Zoroastrians and even
Egyptians and Greeks. Present Arabic script was lifted from the ZOROASTRIAN Farsi. Their ain't NUTHIN' in the world of science
art or philosophy which is actually "muslim" other than NEW AND INNOVATIVE, BARBARIC WAYS TO MURDER PEOPLE.
there is more "science" in the ODYSSEY than in the Koran.
For really glorious ancient writings-----read the Bhagavad Gita
or that writing commonly called "the Old Testament"
I don't know-----how old was she? King David placed his rival in romance in a dangerous position so that he would die------and Samuel
never let him forget that breach of ethics--------he is-----for those who learned their high school literature stuff-----a TRAGIC HERO -----in
the classical greek way of doing literature.
I read the Koran about 50 years ago. I read lots of ancient literature.
In all cases "sin" catches up with the sinners-------as it did with David----
As I read the Koran I was waiting to know how the MANY SINS of
muhummad would "catch up" with him. It never happened. He remains "sinless" in the minds of the brainless
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I don't know , but I imagine younger than him, boy marries girl. Jasher 45
21 And Jacob sent to Aram, the son of Zoba, the son of Terah, and he took for his son Benjamin Mechalia the daughter of Aram, and she came to the land of Canaan to the house of Jacob; and Benjamin was ten years old when he took Mechalia the daughter of Aram for a wife.
Right we would make a gold record and send it out into interstellar space to let them know whoever they are that theres a primitive species in a lot of confusion on the planet where where we live and to prove it we sent the sounds of it and detailed instructions how to get here because we just wanted to say hello.lol..
Maybe they noticed the species was a disaster long before the first human was born to wonder what a fart was.
Many still don't think that deeply.....
Try to look at the law as detailed instructions from another world about what to to fix the planet we fucked up, if ever we notice how fucked up we make it without that instruction. Their far superior and much more useful version of our gold record on voyager that answered that desperate cry for help to the heavens thousands of years before we even thought of sending it out.
If there was a superior intelligence out there, as dumb as we are, they would have beat us to the punch. They did.
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yeah? so? How did it go for the
young couple? Benjamin was considerably younger than was
Joseph and the whole Jacob household moved to Egypt ---to
Goshen when Benjamin was still a kid. Based on that sort of reckoning it seems that the marriage took place before they all went
to Goshen. -----two kids, Mechalia and little Benjamin----honeymoon
in Goshen. How old was Mechalia? very romantic
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Benny had 5 boys with her and got married again at age 18 and had 5 more boys, according to Jasher, which is referenced in the OT, the day the sun stood still. Joshua 10:12 taken right from Jasher.
Yeah? so? Jasher is a book (well actually scroll) written by some
literate person LONG AGO------when your illiterate ancestors were living in trees.
Why does this particular book so FASCINATE YOU?. I have to admit---
BOOKS do fascinate me. -----most books. Even idiotic crude primitive crap like "Beowulf" I did enjoy the stories about ROBIN HOOD----
he lived at about the same time as did Maimonides
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Well I infer must of the OT was copied from Jasher.
on what basis do you so "infer"? And what meaning is there
to "copied" from Jasher. The book----as far as I know is written
in Hebrew------which means that it was written BY A HEBREW----
which means part of Abraham's gang. There were other languages
in Canaan. "Jasher" itself, is a Hebrew word. The book of JOB
was also ANOTHER BOOK written by a "Hebrew". There were
other books. The name JASHER has a meaning pertinent to the
book
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