The Dual Deception: 9/11 and the War on Terror

[Skylar]

"boom, boom, boom, boom, boom...."

Yet when the towers collapsed, there was no sound of explosives.Watch and listen for yourself:



So how do you account for the lack of explosions in your 'explosive demolition'? Remembering of course that 'silent explosives' are a physical impossibility. Any explosive sufficiently powerful to sever structural steel robust enough to hold up one of the tallest buildings in the would....would be sufficient to make an enormous noise.

Yet....nothing.

Sounds like its time to scurry back to the Thermite conspiracy!

 

[north star]

Laughing....is it my fault you guys *always* try to blame the jews? Again, from the OP:

".....9/11 and the War on Terror are dual deceptions imposed on our nation by the Israeli/Zionist and Neo-Conservative cabal that controls our government and media."

But now you're claiming you're not trying to blame the jews, huh?

Sigh......you're really not very good at this.

Like you don't know the difference between Zionist extremists and the Jewish people in general ?

 

[north star]

 

[Skylar]

Laughing....is it my fault you guys *always* try to blame the jews? Again, from the OP:

".....9/11 and the War on Terror are dual deceptions imposed on our nation by the Israeli/Zionist and Neo-Conservative cabal that controls our government and media."

But now you're claiming you're not trying to blame the jews, huh?

Sigh......you're really not very good at this.

Like you don't know the difference between Zionist extremists and the Jewish people in general ?

Laughing.....finally read the OP and the title, huh?

So when you say 'Israelis/Zionists' you DON'T mean Jews? Nice dog whistle there buddy.

Why is it that you truthers so consistently try to fold in the Jews into whatever conspiracy make up? I mean, controlled demolition or thermite doesn't have anything to do with Jews. Yet you always find a way to fold the Jews into your conspiracy.

Why?

This would be another of the common sense, obvious questions that any reasonable person would ask. And you most definitely should have.

 

[the other mike]

The U.S. military and intelligence community, not al Qaeda, had access to the sulfur-enhanced super-military-grade nano-thermite (thermate) detected in the WTC dust needed to melt the steel found molten deep in its basement levels as long as two months later.

Security Alerts, Disabled Fire Alarms, and Unused Elevators: Suspicious Events at the World Trade Center Before 9/11

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/high_explosive_nanothermite_more_bark_than_bite.pdf

http://www.mito11settembre.it/Interview_to_Niels_Harrit.html

 

[the other mike]

This thread should be closed by now, but I guess it's Coyote's lunch break.

 

[Skylar]

The U.S. military and intelligence community, not al Qaeda, had access to the sulfur-enhanced super-military-grade nano-thermite (thermate) detected in the WTC dust needed to melt the steel found molten deep in its basement levels as long as two months later.

Security Alerts, Disabled Fire Alarms, and Unused Elevators: Suspicious Events at the World Trade Center Before 9/11

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/high_explosive_nanothermite_more_bark_than_bite.pdf

http://www.mito11settembre.it/Interview_to_Niels_Harrit.html

Two MONTHS now? Oh, nelly.

So if 'thermite' was what was used to bring down the WTC towers.......why didn't we see any thermite reactions? Remember, they're completely obvious, burning so brightly that they can permanently damage your eyes if you look directly at them. Don't take my word for it. Here's a thermite reaction:



And the towers came down exactly opposite of controlled demolition, falling from the point of impact with the plane down one floor at a time, all the way to the ground. Each floor was destroyed individually. With 47 core columns and 240 perimeter columns per floor and 77 floors from the point of failure to the ground in the South Tower.....and 93 floors from the point of failure to the ground in the North Tower.....

.......that's nearly 50,000 thermite reactions necessary to bring down the towers. With more than 3/4ths of those reactions on the perimeter columns on the OUTSIDE of the building, visible to any observer.

Yet....nothing.

Worse for your theory, even after the towers fell, you insist that the thermite reactions were burning, uncontrolled every minute of every hour, 24 hours a day for TWO MONTHS.

So.....where were they?

Per your conspiracy, 50,000 thermite reactions are burning in this photograph. Each so bright that they can permenantly damage your eyes if you look directly at them.

Um....where are the thermite reactions?

Worse still, thermite burns fast and hot. And your theory, by your own account, required so much thermite stuffed into the towers that it could burn continually and uncontrollably for 2 MONTHS.

How many cubic MILES of Thermite would have to be in the towers to cause 50,000 cuts and STILL burn uncontrlled for 2 MONTHS? There wouldn't have been any room for people in the towers.

Worse still, you're arguing 'nano-thermite'....which buy your own accounting burns even FASTER than regular thermite. Meaning there wouuld have needed to be an order magnitude MORE 'nano-thermite' to cause 50,000 cuts and STILL burn uncontrlled for 2 months.

The quantity of 'nano-thermite' that your theory requires would make a pile taller than the towers.

And yet....nothing. Not one thermite reaction was found before, during or after the collapse. Ever.

As I've said, your conspiracy is just an awful, awful explanation of events. Its poorly thought through, its contradicted by overwhelming evidence, and its simply obliterated by super obvious questions that you can't answer.

Time to switch back to explosive demolition, boys!

 

[the other mike]

Recommended reading.
More Americans Questioning Official 9/11 Story As New Evidence Contradicts Official Narrative

A lot of information in there once you peel back the layers and layers of troll shit.

 

[the other mike]

 

[Skylar]

Recommended reading.
More Americans Questioning Official 9/11 Story As New Evidence Contradicts Official Narrative

A lot of information in there once you peel back the layers and layers of troll shit.

And look! Your thermite conspiracy gets donkey punched by theory crippling holes that you can't possibly shore up....

.....and you abandon your thermite theory like it were a piece of useless garbage, discarded as trash the moment its inconvenient. If even you treat your conspiracies like meaningless garbage, surely you'll understand why we treat your conspiracies the same way.

Oh, and recommended reading? Might I suggested the FDNY oral histories:

Oral Histories From Sept. 11 Compiled by the New York Fire Department - The New York Times

Especially the testimony of fire fighters Frank Fellini and Daniel Nigro.

https://static01.nyt.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110217.PDF

https://static01.nyt.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110154.PDF

They get into super specific detail about how the FDNY anticipated the collapse of WTC 7 from fire and structural damage hours before the building came down.

You know the oral histories, right Angelo? You've cited them as a source. Surely you won't ignore them now.

 

[the other mike]

 

[the other mike]

 

[the other mike]

78, 44 and ground.

 

[Skylar]

Yeah, I'll go with the FDNY on this one.

"The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was the collapse had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story building, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we wouldn't lose any more people.

Daniel Nigro, FDNY

Demonstrating that the FDNY were so concerned about WTC 7 collapsing from fire and structural damage that they pulled their people to protect them should it fall.

"The major concern at that time at that particular location was number Seven, building number seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street.

We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing. So for the next five or six hours we kept firefighters from working anywhere near that building, which included the whole north side of the World Trade Center complex. Eventually around 5:00 or a little after, building number seven came down."

Frank Fellini, FDNY

Your conspiracy is not only an awful explanation of events...its also completely unnecessary. Neither 'silent explosives' nor 'invisible thermite reactions' were necessary for WTC 7 to collapse.

Just fire and structural damage. Exactly as the FDNY anticipated.

 

[the other mike]

 

[the other mike]

Skylar likes to spin everything to his little narrative.

Twin towers witnesses


Building 7 witness later .

 

[Skylar]

78, 44 and ground.

And notice....no sound of explosives at it fell. No sound of explosives in this video either:



Your 'silent explosive' theory is a physical impossibility.

Which means its time to flee to yet another conspiracy!

 

[Skylar]

Skylar likes to spin everything to his little narrative.

Twin towers witnesses


Building 7 witness later .

If it was controlled demolition....then why were there no sounds of explosives when the tower collapsed.



So every floor, one at a time, from the 77th floor to the ground.......but no sounds of explosives?

Sorry, but that's an absolutely shit explanation. Any explosive suffeciently powerful to sever structural steel robust enough to hold up one of the tallest buildings in the world....would have made an absolutely ENORMOUS sound. And your conspiracy requires 10s of thousands of such explosives.

Yet....nothing. Just like your conspiracy.

 

[the other mike]

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

 

[Skylar]

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

Explosive demolition didn't work. So you flee back to thermite. When Thermite has problems, you flee back to explosive demolition.

Brainwash, Rinse, Repeat!

Alas, your thermite theory is still drooling on the floor from the donkey punch that it received by the facts.

So if 'thermite' was what was used to bring down the WTC towers.......why didn't we see any thermite reactions? Remember, they're completely obvious, burning so brightly that they can permanently damage your eyes if you look directly at them. Don't take my word for it. Here's a thermite reaction:



And the towers came down exactly opposite of controlled demolition, falling from the point of impact with the plane down one floor at a time, all the way to the ground. Each floor was destroyed individually. With 47 core columns and 240 perimeter columns per floor and 77 floors from the point of failure to the ground in the South Tower.....and 93 floors from the point of failure to the ground in the North Tower.....

.......that's nearly 50,000 thermite reactions necessary to bring down the towers. With more than 3/4ths of those reactions on the perimeter columns on the OUTSIDE of the building, visible to any observer.

Yet....nothing.

Worse for your theory, even after the towers fell, you insist that the thermite reactions were burning, uncontrolled every minute of every hour, 24 hours a day for TWO MONTHS.

So.....where were they?

Per your conspiracy, 50,000 thermite reactions are burning in this photograph. Each so bright that they can permenantly damage your eyes if you look directly at them.

Um....where are the thermite reactions?

Worse still, thermite burns fast and hot. And your theory, by your own account, required so much thermite stuffed into the towers that it could burn continually and uncontrollably for 2 MONTHS.

How many cubic MILES of Thermite would have to be in the towers to cause 50,000 cuts and STILL burn uncontrlled for 2 MONTHS? There wouldn't have been any room for people in the towers.

Worse still, you're arguing 'nano-thermite'....which buy your own accounting burns even FASTER than regular thermite. Meaning there wouuld have needed to be an order magnitude MORE 'nano-thermite' to cause 50,000 cuts and STILL burn uncontrlled for 2 months.

The quantity of 'nano-thermite' that your theory requires would make a pile taller than the towers.

And yet....nothing. Not one thermite reaction was found before, during or after the collapse. Ever.

As I've said, your conspiracy is just an awful, awful explanation of events. Its poorly thought through, its contradicted by overwhelming evidence, and its simply obliterated by super obvious questions that you can't answer.

Time to switch back to explosive demolition, boys!