The Drama Triangle

[Dhara]

Is discussed in recovery circles of all kinds, survivors of abuse, war, bigotry etc. How can we all move forward without falling into the triangulation of victim/ perpetrator/ rescuer?

 

[Compost]

Chose an identity other than victim, perpetrator or rescuer?

 

[there4eyeM]

Realize that reality is in the mind, comes through perceptions, is 100% subjective, and attitude can be a choice.

 

[Dhara]

Chose an identity other than victim, perpetrator or rescuer?

I'm talking about these as "identities". I'm talking about them as states of mind which we can go beyond.

 

[Ravi]

Chose an identity other than victim, perpetrator or rescuer?

Sounds like the sensible answer.

 

[Compost]

Chose an identity other than victim, perpetrator or rescuer?

I'm talking about these as "identities". I'm talking about them as states of mind which we can go beyond.

OK. Isn't choosing a different identity than one than brings you to the triangle of whatnot a way to go beyond?

 

[Dhara]

They aren't identities.

 

[Ravi]

Chose a different state of mind.

 

[Dhara]

Chose an identity other than victim, perpetrator or rescuer?

I'm talking about these as "identities". I'm talking about them as states of mind which we can go beyond.

OK> Isn't choosing a different identity than one than brings you to the triangle of whatnot a way to go beyond?

They aren't identities. They are responses that people in recovery get stuck in. Everyone does this in response to addicts and alcoholics.

 

[Compost]

They aren't identities.

I see. Identities and states of mind can't possibly be the same sort of experience for someone trying to recover.

 

[Ravi]

Chose an identity other than victim, perpetrator or rescuer?

I'm talking about these as "identities". I'm talking about them as states of mind which we can go beyond.

OK> Isn't choosing a different identity than one than brings you to the triangle of whatnot a way to go beyond?

They aren't identities. They are responses that people in recovery get stuck in. Everyone does this in response to addicts and alcoholics.

Some people walk away from addicts and alcoholics.

 

[Dhara]

Chose a different state of mind.

We would call that post a highly conditional rescue response. Of course, when conditions aren't met as advised this type of rescuer can turn into a persecutor or perpetrator at the drop of a hat.

 

[Ravi]

Chose a different state of mind.

We would call that post a highly conditional rescue response. Of course, when conditions aren't met as advised this type of rescuer can turn into a persecutor or perpetrator at the drop of a hat.

How is choosing not to be a victim/perp/rescuer a rescue response? By rescue I assumed you meant rescue the other person and not yourself. Was I wrong about that?

 

[Dhara]

Sorry folks, this thread isn't working out. I offered it for general discussion not personal attack.

 

[Compost]

Sorry folks, this thread isn't working out. I offered it for general discussion not personal attack.

Here's a tip. Explain yourself. Don't play games. Then you likely won't get "attacked".

 

[there4eyeM]

When the 'I' limits itself to an image, it is identifying.

 

[koshergrl]

Realize that reality is in the mind, comes through perceptions, it 100% subjective, and attitude can be a choice.

Er..reality isn't subjective.

Unless you're a nutter and can't distinguish between reality and fantasy.

And we have plenty of those here.

 

[there4eyeM]

The threads do seem to get a bit severe pretty quickly sometimes.

 

[Dhara]

"Rescuers" are any sort of "helpers", and they end up being victims in making or persecutors in making. The persecutor is the one who gives the insults and injuries that maintan dissociative transactions, or dysfunction doses, so to speak.

 

[Ravi]

"Rescuers" are any sort of "helpers", and they end up being victims in making or persecutors in making. The persecutor is the one who gives the insults and injuries that maintan dissociative transactions, or dysfunction doses, so to speak.

When I said choose a different state of mind I was saying that about the victims/perp/rescuers. In other words, don't be any of them.