The Dr. Fauci - President Trump Lack of Agreement

[Mac1958]

A responsible doctor is going to stick up for the facts and for honesty, especially in this kind of crisis, and it does appear that Dr. Fauci is doing that.

I know he's frustrated and humiliated to have to work with Trump -- as we saw in the press conference -- but I applaud him for standing strong and being honest with the American people.

 

[berg80]

berg80, in your own words, what in the **** is a "health official?" You seem to be a victims of TDS, and so far "health officials" have not provided you and others with TDS a cure! So why do you trust them so much?

You need to consider just how gullible you are being by accepting the narrative that is emerging. Fauci keeps correcting Trump's lies and false statements about the virus, the timeline for a vaccine, and the efficacy of treatments currently available. Trumpleton's therefore must find a way to disparage Fauci since no one gets away with questioning the word of Dear Leader. So now you are parsing the term "medical expert!!!!" Are you kidding????????? The man is a freaking doctor with years of expertise in the field of epidemiology. Big Fat Don is a conman and former reality TV celebrity who lies all the time about everything.........all the time.

 

[JoeB131]

I don't trust Dr Fauci

not after I read this... he loves the Witch Clinton? WTF

not good Dr Fauci.... not good at all DR!

he loves the witch Clinton?????

Yes, we've already established you hate Hillary more than you love the country.

We are all now paying for that.

 

[JoeB131]

A responsible doctor is going to stick up for the facts and for honesty, especially in this kind of crisis, and it does appear that Dr. Fauci is doing that.

I know he's frustrated and humiliated to have to work with Trump -- as we saw in the press conference -- but I applaud him for standing strong and being honest with the American people.

Says the guy who constantly whines that we are all being a bunch of partisan meanyheads when we criticize Trump.

 

[JoeB131]

They did not publish the whole interview and it was an opinion piece. That is my point. "Presidential" is an OPINION frankly I think he is the FIRST President in my lifetime that is "Presidential." Obama, Bush, Clinton were all political lackeys. I'm getting tired of 'political speak' coming from DC and Trump is surrounded by it. That includes Fauchi. The AP has published biased crap as well.

I couldn't imagine Obama or Bush or Clinton doing the nonsense Trump has done...

Trump is proving himself unfit for the office, more than ever.

 

[sparky]

A responsible doctor is going to stick up for the facts and for honesty, especially in this kind of crisis, and it does appear that Dr. Fauci is doing that.

the crux>>>

MSN

www.msn.com

“The president, has heard, as we all have heard, what are what I call anecdotal reports that certain drugs work. So what he was trying to do and express was the hope that if they might work, let’s try and push their usage,” Dr. Fauci said. “I, on the other side, have said I’m not disagreeing with the fact anecdotally they might work, but my job is to prove definitively from a scientific standpoint that they do work. So I was taking a purely medical, scientific standpoint, and the president was trying to bring hope to the people.”


~S~

 

[Mac1958]

A responsible doctor is going to stick up for the facts and for honesty, especially in this kind of crisis, and it does appear that Dr. Fauci is doing that.

the crux>>>

MSN

www.msn.com

“The president, has heard, as we all have heard, what are what I call anecdotal reports that certain drugs work. So what he was trying to do and express was the hope that if they might work, let’s try and push their usage,” Dr. Fauci said. “I, on the other side, have said I’m not disagreeing with the fact anecdotally they might work, but my job is to prove definitively from a scientific standpoint that they do work. So I was taking a purely medical, scientific standpoint, and the president was trying to bring hope to the people.”


~S~

He put that pretty delicately. He's got a tough job, on top of everything else.
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[JoeB131]

He put that pretty delicately. He's got a tough job, on top of everything else.

He shouldn't have a tough job, that's the point.

He wouldn't be having to carefully couch his words if he was working for President Obama, or President Bush, or President Clinton.

But he has to couch his words with Trump in order to keep his job? That's ******* nuts.

Well, hey, Stormy, as long as the stock market's good... oh, wait.

 

[james bond]

President Trump is leading the nation, and looks out for its economic and geopolitical welfare in addition to the well being of the citizens.

If he was looking out for the well being of Americans he would have paid attention to the warnings about the virus, used the outbreak in China as an example of what was potentially to come, and made sure the country was prepared. The truth is, he failed miserably to prepare us while making false claims that everything "was under control."

Now, he is listening to calls from right wing pundits to loosen restrictions put in place to get the economy going again. Putting his re-election chances above people's lives.

Trump Considers Reopening Economy, Over Health Experts’ Objections
The president is questioning whether stay-at-home orders have gone too far. But relaxing them could significantly increase the death toll from the coronavirus, health officials warn.

Trump Considers Reopening Economy, Over Health Experts’ Objections (Published 2020)

The president is questioning whether stay-at-home orders have gone too far. But relaxing them could significantly increase the death toll from the coronavirus, health officials warn.

www.nytimes.com

WASHINGTON — As the United States entered Week 2 of trying to contain the spread of the coronavirus by shuttering large swaths of the economy, President Trump, Wall Street executives and many conservative economists began questioning whether the government had gone too far and should instead lift restrictions that are already inflicting deep pain on workers and businesses.

Consensus continues to grow among government leaders and health officials that the best way to defeat the virus is to order nonessential businesses to close and residents to confine themselves at home. Britain, after initially resisting such measures, essentially locked down its economy on Monday, as did the governors of Virginia, Michigan and Oregon. More than 100 million Americans will soon be subject to stay-at-home orders.

Relaxing those restrictions could significantly increase the death toll from the virus, public health officials warn. Many economists say there is no positive trade-off — resuming normal activity prematurely would only strain hospitals and result in even more deaths, while exacerbating a recession that has most likely already arrived.

Trump is a farking idiot. He's treating this like Obama's or swine flu. This is more like the 1918 flu situation. We need the vaccine first. This flu could kill upwards to 50 million. The test kits the CDC tried to develop doesn't work. That's why they had to shut some of the drive-thrus down. We should've listened to WHO and used the German test kits. Much simpler and it works. The FDC was supposed to oversee this like they said they would, and I suppose they did. Except they were supposed to prevent stuff like this from happening. This is why they wanted to oversee the process of its development in the first place.

Trump is trying to save the stock market and economy. It's like damned if we do and damned if we don't. The economy and stock market will collapse. We'll be in a depression. Even the NBA and its players act like they'll resume the season in a couple of months. THERE IS NO VACCINE SO FORGET IT!!!

We'll end up going to martial law and will be in lockdown for a long time. Maybe it will take the entire 18 months. LISTEN TO DR. FAUCI!!! He's taking the right approach to this.

Testing blunders crippled US response as coronavirus spread

WASHINGTON (AP) — A series of missteps at the nation's top public health agency caused a critical shortage of reliable laboratory tests for the coronavirus, hobbling the federal response as the pandemic spread across the country like wildfire, an Associated Press review found.

apnews.com

 

[L.K.Eder]

Dr. Fauci was interviewed in a Science Media today and told the reporter that there was disagreement with the president, but said, "What do you want me to do, jump in front of him and take the mircophone? To the best of my knowledge I am not fired...yet."

Trump is putting a positive spin on some things and that does not purport with Dr. Fauci. We need to know the fascts...straight up. I don't give a damn if Trump is optimistic...I want the straight facts!

And his body language is so telling! He has his arms crossed, looking like a pouting child knowing full well he's not being "open.."

Dr. Fauci is the expert. Let him speak, don't say the opposite, just shut up. I want to hear more from Dr. Fauci! He is the best team member you have. You did a great job in selecting him, Mr. President. That Seema lady is useless. She cannot answer a question directly. Get rid of her!

Perhaps you should be more specific what the hell you're talking about.

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Sorry. One of the items that brought about disagreement is the likelihood of the new treatments will work or not. Trump said it will and Fauci said we have to wait and see. Trump, with folded arms said, "We disagree." The Dr. IS THE EXPERT>

For anyone that's paying attention, there's a lot of evidence that the
Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin are very effective in some people. I saw an interview with a guy in LA that swears it saved his life. He was saying his goodbyes to his friends and family last Saturday. A friend told him about the possible treatment, he talked to his doctors and was given the meds and by 4:45 the next morning he was breathing better and will probably be released form the hospital tomorrow. A french doctor is giving the meds to his patients, he had no one even hospitalized and they have had an undetectable viral load in and average of 6 days.

In short Trump's optimism is warranted, Fauci on the other hand what's to see the efficacy proven by blind studies, which could take a year or more. Neither of the two are necessarily wrong, they just look at the situation through a different lens. Fauci has said there's no harm in trying it while studies are being conducted.

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"A french doctor is giving the meds to his patients, he had no one even hospitalized..."

in reality, 3 of 26 stopped treatment because they were transferred into ICU. a further patient died. but who cares, it sounds good.

 

[mudwhistle]

I don't trust Dr Fauci

not after I read this... he loves the Witch Clinton? WTF

not good Dr Fauci.... not good atr all DR!

he loves the witch Clinton?????


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I know he loves Clinton...or he DID. So what. What he knows about this virus is what is important and I believe in him until someone comes up with better ideas. And it sure won't be Clinton, or Trump.
BTW< Trump said he may be easing the social distancing next week! WTH??? He saying that not klnowing what next week brings? Leave it to Fauci, damnit!

Fauci is being used by the media to sow discord in the administration. They're floating stories online about the little prick talking shit about Trump....example: "I have to repeat what I say to Trump several times before it sinks in"......just another continuation of Hillary's campaign against Trump in the media.

I noticed that he's never at any of the briefings anymore....and I have a feeling the little shit is going to be looking for a job soon.

 

[mudwhistle]

President Trump is leading the nation, and looks out for its economic and geopolitical welfare in addition to the well being of the citizens.

If he was looking out for the well being of Americans he would have paid attention to the warnings about the virus, used the outbreak in China as an example of what was potentially to come, and made sure the country was prepared. The truth is, he failed miserably to prepare us while making false claims that everything "was under control."

Now, he is listening to calls from right wing pundits to loosen restrictions put in place to get the economy going again. Putting his re-election chances above people's lives.

Trump Considers Reopening Economy, Over Health Experts’ Objections
The president is questioning whether stay-at-home orders have gone too far. But relaxing them could significantly increase the death toll from the coronavirus, health officials warn.

Trump Considers Reopening Economy, Over Health Experts’ Objections (Published 2020)

The president is questioning whether stay-at-home orders have gone too far. But relaxing them could significantly increase the death toll from the coronavirus, health officials warn.

www.nytimes.com

WASHINGTON — As the United States entered Week 2 of trying to contain the spread of the coronavirus by shuttering large swaths of the economy, President Trump, Wall Street executives and many conservative economists began questioning whether the government had gone too far and should instead lift restrictions that are already inflicting deep pain on workers and businesses.

Consensus continues to grow among government leaders and health officials that the best way to defeat the virus is to order nonessential businesses to close and residents to confine themselves at home. Britain, after initially resisting such measures, essentially locked down its economy on Monday, as did the governors of Virginia, Michigan and Oregon. More than 100 million Americans will soon be subject to stay-at-home orders.

Relaxing those restrictions could significantly increase the death toll from the virus, public health officials warn. Many economists say there is no positive trade-off — resuming normal activity prematurely would only strain hospitals and result in even more deaths, while exacerbating a recession that has most likely already arrived.

Trump is a farking idiot. He's treating this like Obama's or swine flu. This is more like the 1918 flu situation. We need the vaccine first. This flu could kill upwards to 50 million. The test kits the CDC tried to develop doesn't work. That's why they had to shut some of the drive-thrus down. We should've listened to WHO and used the German test kits. Much simpler and it works. The FDC was supposed to oversee this like they said they would, and I suppose they did. Except they were supposed to prevent stuff like this from happening. This is why they wanted to oversee the process of its development in the first place.

Trump is trying to save the stock market and economy. It's like damned if we do and damned if we don't. The economy and stock market will collapse. We'll be in a depression. Even the NBA and its players act like they'll resume the season in a couple of months. THERE IS NO VACCINE SO FORGET IT!!!

We'll end up going to martial law and will be in lockdown for a long time. Maybe it will take the entire 18 months. LISTEN TO DR. FAUCI!!! He's taking the right approach to this.

Testing blunders crippled US response as coronavirus spread

WASHINGTON (AP) — A series of missteps at the nation's top public health agency caused a critical shortage of reliable laboratory tests for the coronavirus, hobbling the federal response as the pandemic spread across the country like wildfire, an Associated Press review found.

apnews.com

Thanks for the input.

If we need any help with second-guessing and armchair quarterbacking....we'll contact you.

 

[berg80]

Fauci is being used by the media to sow discord in the administration.

There is discord between Fauci and Trump because Fauci, for the sake of providing the American people with the facts, constantly has to correct Trump's lies. Stop blaming the media for reporting what is going on in the real world. The one right wing media tries to obfuscate.

 

[sparky]

A responsible doctor is going to stick up for the facts and for honesty, especially in this kind of crisis, and it does appear that Dr. Fauci is doing that.

the crux>>>

MSN

www.msn.com

“The president, has heard, as we all have heard, what are what I call anecdotal reports that certain drugs work. So what he was trying to do and express was the hope that if they might work, let’s try and push their usage,” Dr. Fauci said. “I, on the other side, have said I’m not disagreeing with the fact anecdotally they might work, but my job is to prove definitively from a scientific standpoint that they do work. So I was taking a purely medical, scientific standpoint, and the president was trying to bring hope to the people.”


~S~

He put that pretty delicately. He's got a tough job, on top of everything else.
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There's been an entire resurfacing of chloroquine phosphate ,mostly from other corners of this rock Mac

Yes there's some double blind clinicals popping up domestically, but it's all old ground covered yet again.

Dr Fauci is caught in the middle , standing on empirical medicine's bureaucracies , and yes that is his job ,inclusive of representative of the American health care system we have.

Unfortunately for Dr Fauci , there's a lot of other HC systems on this rock that do not operate in lockstep with us

~S~

 

[2aguy]

I don't trust Dr Fauci

not after I read this... he loves the Witch Clinton? WTF

not good Dr Fauci.... not good atr all DR!

he loves the witch Clinton?????


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I know he loves Clinton...or he DID. So what. What he knows about this virus is what is important and I believe in him until someone comes up with better ideas. And it sure won't be Clinton, or Trump.
BTW< Trump said he may be easing the social distancing next week! WTH??? He saying that not klnowing what next week brings? Leave it to Fauci, damnit!

Dr. Fauci may very well be the next James Comey...they guy with the stellar reputation, who we are told is a boy scout......and turns out to be a vile weasel.........giving cover to obama while giving bad advice to Trump....

What did Dr. Fauci have to say in 2009 about the deadly H1N1 pandemic?

Update. See also: Video shows Dr Fauci understood the danger of children returning to school in H1N1 pandemic but downplayed the risk It seems some viral infection pandemics are more equal than others. At least when it comes to burning a vibrant T...

www.americanthinker.com

It seems some viral infection pandemics are more equal than others. At least when it comes to burning a vibrant Trump economy to the ground.

In September 2009, after millions had become infected with the H1N1 influenza and thousands had died, some of whom were young people and children, a relaxed and unalarmed Dr. Anthony Fauci told an interviewer that people just need "to use good judgment."

"Parents should not send their kids to school if they're sick, if you're sick don't go to work ... avoid places where there are people who are sick and coughing, now that's a difficult thing to do,” he said. "...You can't isolate yourself from the rest of the world for the whole flu season." That’s quite a change from the esteemed expert’s views on the current virus from China sweeping the world.

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Additionally, nowhere in the 2009 interview does Dr. Fauci specifically mention restaurants and bars as hot spots for the transmission of the H1N1 virus as he does in his recent interview with Yahoo News: “When I see crowded bars and crowded restaurants, it is a little bit unnerving,” Fauci said. "It’s clear that those are the situations that put people very much at risk." Talk about wielding power. Take a look around the country. Local and state officials have heeded Fauci’s “unnerving” concern and ordered restaurants to close their dining areas, or adhere to a 10-person limit. In cities and small towns everywhere, the restaurant industry, which includes owners, suppliers, chefs, line cooks, waitstaff, and bartenders, has been decimated.

Restaurants and bar owners, along with their employees, are the hardest hit economically by the virus. In my city of Richmond, Virginia, 75% to 80% of restaurant staff have been laid off. One hundred restaurants have closed and those not following Governor Ralph ‘Blackface' Northam's 10-person limit have been advised they could lose their business licenses and possibly risk police action if they do not comply. Meanwhile, Dr. Fauci lamented to Yahoo! News that he is unable to get his usual seven-mile daily run in due to his 19-hour days helping the American people, but he's hopeful "sometime soon we’ll get back to some normality where I can exercise the way I like to exercise."

Lastly, nowhere in the 2009 interview does Fauci use inflammatory, fear-inducing rhetoric, despite the number of H1N1-infected individuals, increased hospitalizations and deaths occurring at that time. Eleven years later, on March 11, 2020, Fauci is gung ho about COVID-19, warning lawmakers at a hearing on Capitol Hill: "Bottom line, it's going to get worse." Since then, the renowned AIDS epidemiologist has been seen daily at White House press conferences and on cable news shows reiterating this message to the public.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump is like an impatient little kid.

Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
When will we get there?

Fauci’s days are numbered

 

[rightwinger]

Amazing watching the Conservative attack dogs going after the man who is defending the public health

 

[2aguy]

Dr. Fauci was interviewed in a Science Media today and told the reporter that there was disagreement with the president, but said, "What do you want me to do, jump in front of him and take the mircophone? To the best of my knowledge I am not fired...yet."

Trump is putting a positive spin on some things and that does not purport with Dr. Fauci. We need to know the fascts...straight up. I don't give a damn if Trump is optimistic...I want the straight facts!

And his body language is so telling! He has his arms crossed, looking like a pouting child knowing full well he's not being "open.."

Dr. Fauci is the expert. Let him speak, don't say the opposite, just shut up. I want to hear more from Dr. Fauci! He is the best team member you have. You did a great job in selecting him, Mr. President. That Seema lady is useless. She cannot answer a question directly. Get rid of her!

Fauci was at the CDC when they were supposed to be preparing the equipment needed for an outbreak like this....and yet, we didn't have the things you guys say we needed.....that is on him...not Trump...

 

[mudwhistle]

Fauci is being used by the media to sow discord in the administration.

There is discord between Fauci and Trump because Fauci, for the sake of providing the American people with the facts, constantly has to correct Trump's lies. Stop blaming the media for reporting what is going on in the real world. The one right wing media tries to obfuscate.

Blah....Blah....Blah......
This Fauci act is just another of a long list of hoaxes by Hillary's deep state-run media friends.
It's total crapola meant to mislead the retarded.

 

[berg80]

This Fauci act

Nothing could be so obvious as the Trumpleton's need to try to discredit Fauci for having the audacity to correct the lies of the Groper-in-Chief.