psikeyhackr
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What? I can't do maintenance on nuclear weapons any more?Much of what one learns in the military is useless in civilian life. However, the discipline you experience can be a lifelong asset.
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What? I can't do maintenance on nuclear weapons any more?Much of what one learns in the military is useless in civilian life. However, the discipline you experience can be a lifelong asset.
I've been in civilian classrooms and military classrooms. The difference is night and day. Civilian schools are run by amateurs, military by professionals.
You just proved that you have never been in a military classroom. You have no standing in the discussion.
One of the 'other factors' that makes military training unique is that soldiers are tested for aptitude before being assigned to their specialties. In your 'ghetto' example only kids who passed an aptitude test for such a course would be allowed into it.Oh, I'm totally sure there's a difference.
However there are a lot more factors at play here.
You said "he military disciplinary methodology will work anywhere with any subject."
I disagree with this.
In the US military, where the students are volunteers, the teachers are professional because the Army is professional, then you're going to get that.
However, imagine the Army goes into a ghetto high school where the kids couldn't give a damn and he has to teach English freaking Literature to a bunch of kids who struggle to read.
There are going to be problems. The Army's way isn't going to work.
Also in schools there are plenty of professional teachers. I've worked with one guy from Mississippi and he is a great teacher. He's hard working, smart, engages with the kids.... everything you want from a teacher. I know he'd teacher better than an army guy in a primary school because he's experienced and good at his job.
I'm sure there are very good teachers in the Army too, every industry has good and not so good and bad....
Wait, what? You can 'prove' things about me without knowing me but I can't return the favor?Bullshit, you fucking know fucking nothing about me. Don't play silly little fucking games, I don't talk to such people.
Wrong. Think of a more obvious difference.I've been in civilian classrooms and military classrooms. The difference is night and day. Civilian schools are run by amateurs, military by professionals.
Another obvious difference is that military training is targeted for a specific purpose. Civilian education is meant more for socialization of the citizenry. Sadly, civilian education has failed in this purpose as it fails to overcome the influence of human nature as does that of the military. In fact, civilian education exacerbates social problems by highlighting and casting in stone the superiority and inferiority of different classes of people via the grading system, which together with the 'probationary' period of learning consigns those who fare poorly to the lower regions of the economy.Wrong. Think of a more obvious difference.
What exactly are you comparing?Another obvious difference is that military training is targeted for a specific purpose. Liberal Arts not useful.
Reread. I edited that post.What exactly are you comparing?
Wait, what? You can 'prove' things about me without knowing me but I can't return the favor?
Another obvious difference is that military training is targeted for a specific purpose. Civilian education is meant more for socialization of the citizenry. Sadly, civilian education has failed in this purpose as it fails to overcome the influence of human nature as does that of the military. In fact, civilian education exacerbates social problems by highlighting and casting in stone the superiority and inferiority of different classes of people via the grading system, which together with the 'probationary' period of learning consigns those who fare poorly to the lower regions of the economy.
This is the "pointless stuff" that religion and conservatism seeks to teach."Kids should be taught in schools how to be decent humans beings, with adult skills, like choosing partners, like bring up kids, having job skills, decision making skills."
I'm sorry that you didn't understand what I said.What you said was just nonsense. And here we are talking pointless bullshit because YOU decided to go down that road.
This is the "pointless stuff" that religion and conservatism seeks to teach.
I'm sorry that you didn't understand what I said.
The military disciplinary methodology will work anywhere with any subject. It eliminates the choice that public school grants it's students; the option to deliberately not learn.
And? Students don't graduate just for showing up.
Your second response contradicts your first, and supports my assertion.That's the stupides thing I have seen in weeks.
In some places...yes, they do.
You seem to have an opinion about the military teaching method without (apparently) having any experience with it. What else am I to conclude?"You just proved that you have never been in a military classroom. You have no standing in the discussion."
What am I supposed to understand from this?
What I got was A) "I'm telling you about your life" and B) "You can't talk about this issue because I'm taking the moral high ground"
The Bible teaches to love the sinner, hate the sin.They teach people to be decent human beings by telling them to pound on gay people.
The Bible teaches not to be "unequally yoked" to another. Believers should marry believers.When has Christianity ever taught anyone to choose the right partner? I mean, for a long time there were arranged marriages and the like.
The Bible teaches, "Whatever your hand finds to do (your occupation) do it with all your might".What job skills the Christians teach?
I don't recall anyone ever suggesting I had to marry a Catholic....
The Bible teaches not to be "unequally yoked" to another. Believers should marry believers.
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