2aguy
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The link shows you don't know what you are saying......23.7 per 100,000 is lower than 26.27 in 1991 dumb ass....
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The link shows you don't know what you are saying......23.7 per 100,000 is lower than 26.27 in 1991 dumb ass....
2aguy
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No....countries that don't have our mental health issues have fewer school shootings......
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They almost had 2 last year.....and it wasn't their gun control laws that stopped them, it was dumb luck......and before they banned guns.....they didn't have school shootings either.......moron.
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Illinois has a gang problem that isn't the same gang problem as L.A. and New YOrk.....both cities that have the same gun control laws as Chicago, but lower gun murder rates.....while Balitmore has even more extreme gun control than New York, it has a smaller population...but more gun murders than New York or L.A....
Your argument is not based in reality...
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Wrong...dipstick....law abiding people carrying their legal guns is not driving the crime rate anywhere in the country, not even in Wisconsin...
Milwaukee drives the gun crime rate in Wisconsin...because their democrat mayor is mishandling the police..but even so.....it is lower than it was before they had concealed carry.....moron..
Wisconsin 2016.......
As another violent year ends, memories of homicide victims live on
Milwaukee's per capita homicide rate was 23.7 per 100,000 residents ā a lower rate than the 26.27 per 100,000 residents in 1991.
āYouāre seeing a rebirth:ā Crime rates in Milwaukeeās Amani neighborhood down significantly
The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.
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Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.
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Gun crime has gone up in Britain 23% across the entire country, and 42% in London all by itself......gun crime going up on an island nation that banned and confiscated guns.....the only thing their criminals don't do with their easily acquired guns is murder people...which is why you morons have to bring that data up........violent crime is going up all across Britain, and their criminals are using guns....
As to why Milwaukee has gun murder......democrat leadership...
Homicides soar in Milwaukee, along with many theories on cause
Flynn has cited lack of cooperation from witnesses, intimidation of witnesses who do cooperate, high standards for prosecution and an overwhelming workload as factors in the 2015 rate. Regardless, detectives work relentlessly to try to bring justice to families, he said. He said he couldn't vouch for how clearances were calculated before he was chief.
The Milwaukee Police Association, which represents the department's rank-and-file, has long criticized Flynn's leadership. Union president Michael Crivello says the chief's reorganization of the department deserves much of the blame for higher levels of violence and lower clearance rates.
"(An) abandonment of the fundamentals of policing have caused the out-of-control spiral of criminal behavior," Crivello said.
When no one's held accountable for a homicide, the victim's family and friends suffer, said Tory Lowe, a Milwaukee activist and Common Council candidate.
"When it goes unsolved, that anger sits right there in the community and causes a form of hopelessness," he said.
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And that is a lie......once again they are using Everytown for gun safety and they use anything they can find and call it a school shooting, including gangs shooting it out near a school and people committting suicide in the school parking lot after hours......you are such a liar.
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Baltimore.......
New York....
Houston has gun stores on every corner and you can openly and concealed carry guns if you are a law abiding citizen...add to that the fact it is on the border with the drug cartel nation of Mexico......and yet it has fewer gun murders than New York, Baltimore and D.C....all cities with extreme gun control..
Notice the cities below that have extreme gun control vs. Houston......
Murder rate 2017
Baltimore......343
Population of cities 2016:
Chicago........2.7 million
L.A................3.9 million
N.Y................8.5 million
Houston........2.3 million
Baltimore......620,961
Detroit...........672,795
Milwaukee.....595,647
St. Louis.......311,404
Murder rate 2016:
Chicago........765
L.A.......... .....293
N.Y................335
Houston .......301
Baltimore......318
Detroit...........303
Milwaukee.... 142
St. Louis..........188
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Chicago has concealed carry. Hardly strong gun control.
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We were discussing WI.
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Crime in Milwaukee has increased since getting concealed carry.
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No....as you can see from the link, it is lower than it was in 1991.....and the homicide rate is being driven by bad policing from bad democrat leadership....moron....just like Chicago........
Baltimore has extreme gun control......everything you morons want...from magazine bans to assault weapon bans, finger printing law abiding gun owners to waiting periods.........and a higher murder number than Milwaukee.....moron....
Moron....Baltimore has f
Murder rate 2017
Baltimore......343
Population of cities 2016:
Baltimore......620,961
Milwaukee.....595,647
Murder rate 2016:
Baltimore......318
Milwaukee.... 142
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Moron...please.....try to actually tell the truth once in a while.......
The Ferguson effect...again....notice the year...2015....
Sheriff shreds anti-gun mayorās excuse for crime spree
Clarke, who still lives in the city, points out that while the number of homicides in Milwaukee has shot up this year over last, one must look at a larger sample of data, not just this year over last, to get an accurate picture.
Thatās because last year was a particularly safe year in Milwaukee. Homicides were down 14 percent from the year before.
āThe holes in that argument are obvious. First of all, thereās an ebb and flow to crime,ā Clarke told WND. āYouāll see a high period followed by a low period, and a low period will often be followed by a high. But some things remain constant, and one is the availability of guns.ā
How to explain a broader drop in homicides?
So the data would appear to support Clarkeās thesis that the cause of any recent blip in violent crime is more complex than the availability of guns.
āIf you look at the data, over the years violent crime has fallen, and there are more guns on the street.
But nobody ever asks Chief Flynn why there has been an increase in guns while the number of homicides went down; why is that?ā Clarke asked. āYou wonāt see that question asked, because the media here are willing accomplices in perpetrating that myth that guns cause violence.ā
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Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the country as does CA and the crime rate in UT which has some of the least restrictive gun laws has far less crime than either so it seems your argument is proven wrong yet again
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so what?
5 years of concealed carry: Law obscures impact
āItās hard to create any kind of causal relationship between the law and whatās happening because we arenāt able to look specifically at the individuals who have been carrying concealed weapons,ā said Jeri Bonavia, executive director of the Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort. āWhen someone commits a murder, when a man shoots his wife and his kids, when shots are fired in road rage ā is that person a concealed carry permit holder? We donāt know, because the law prevents us from having that information.ā
so we have even more evidence that your correlation of concealed carry and crime is dubious at best
Here's a little more just for fun
āThe story kind of is that there is no story,ā Attorney General Brad Schimel said. āIām not aware of evidence of statistical significance that there are people who gain a permit who are committing crime with guns ā¦ and thereās not a lot of evidence of people using guns to protect themselves or others.ā
Crime stats show little change
About 320,000 Wisconsinites now have a concealed carry permit, and police outside of Milwaukee say they have seen little impact for better or worse.
āWe only give permits to people who are law-abiding, who have no record of anything that disqualifies them from seeking that firearm, and those people donāt tend to commit crimes with the guns,ā Schimel said.
Statewide, firearm injuries per capita rose slightly to an average of 513 after the passage of concealed carry, according to National Vital Statistics Reports from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
But that was consistent with growth in the national average, and Wisconsinās ranking relative to the rest of the country actually dropped by one over that period.
Changes in violent crime (a category that includes murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault) also tracked exactly with national trends, according to the FBIās Uniform Crime Report.
Homicides in Wisconsin have been generally consistent as well. The 71 counties excluding Milwaukee County averaged a total of 37 homicides per year in the four years before 2011 and the four years after.
Milwaukee County has been a different story, seeing the number of homicides jump from an average of 68 in the four years before concealed carry to 94 in the four years after, according to death certificate tallies from the Wisconsin Department of Health Services. That spike continued this year.
James Palmer, executive director of the 10,000-member Wisconsin Professional Police Association, said he doesnāt see any connection between crime stats and the advent of concealed carry.
āAny fluctuations in crime, increase or otherwise, involve individuals utilizing guns who donāt have the lawful ability to do so,ā he said.
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They didn't get concealed carry in 1991.
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Yes Ferguson happened because we have too many guns. People aren't regularly shot by police in countries with strong gun control.
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They have concealed carry, that is hardly very strict. You need to think again.
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Crime has increased every year since they got concealed carry. Fact.
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