The Death Penalty---OP/ED

[westwall]

I am not in favor of the death penalty save in very rare cases. The evidence MUST be 100%. There can be no death penalty on the table without that. In those rare cases where the death penalty is warranted, then I feel the condemned gets one appeal, to be heard one week after sentence is passed. If the appeal is denied then one week after that they are put down.

I would give them two appeals. One in the state appeals court and one in federal ALL within 18 months. Then its over.

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

 

[Carla_Danger]

ALL of the civilized country have done away with the DP. We are amongst third world countries with our use of the DP.

So you would argue its civilized to kill a unborn child but NOT civilized to kill a rapist?

I would argue that the two have nothing to do with the other.

So which is NOT human the murderer or the unborn child?

Is your thread about abortion or the death penalty? Get back to me when you start having rational thoughts.

 

[DarkFury]

It was funny you compared it to Sharia law. Sharia law is based on religion. U.S. law is based on the will of the people so the two do not compare.

It is like Sharia law. Not all aspects of Sharia law are based on religion either. It is a social and political belief system as well.

How about we ask a real muslim? dani67 is Sharia based on islam?

Sharia law (Arabic: شريعة) is the body of Islamic law. The term means "way" or " path"; it is the legal framework within which the public and some private aspects of life are regulated for those living in a legal system based on Islam.

Are YOU islamic? If not why should readers learn islam from a NON islamic?

Sunni Man Is Sharia based on islam?

haria, Islamic sharia or Islamic law (Arabic: شريعة‎‎ (IPA: [ʃaˈriːʕa]) for law) is the religious legal system governing the members of the Islamic faith

Sharia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So you would agree that it is a religion based law?

 

[DarkFury]

ALL of the civilized country have done away with the DP. We are amongst third world countries with our use of the DP.

So you would argue its civilized to kill a unborn child but NOT civilized to kill a rapist?

I would argue that the two have nothing to do with the other.

So which is NOT human the murderer or the unborn child?

Is your thread about abortion or the death penalty? Get back to me when you start having rational thoughts.

Are they both not human?
Do not both call for death?
Only thing different is who and how its judged.

 

[ChrisL]

I am not in favor of the death penalty save in very rare cases. The evidence MUST be 100%. There can be no death penalty on the table without that. In those rare cases where the death penalty is warranted, then I feel the condemned gets one appeal, to be heard one week after sentence is passed. If the appeal is denied then one week after that they are put down.

I would give them two appeals. One in the state appeals court and one in federal ALL within 18 months. Then its over.

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

The only people I would consider putting to death are people like serial killers, the psychos who are SO far gone that they can't be brought back to reality. The DP is applied so arbitrarily too.

 

[DarkFury]

I am not in favor of the death penalty save in very rare cases. The evidence MUST be 100%. There can be no death penalty on the table without that. In those rare cases where the death penalty is warranted, then I feel the condemned gets one appeal, to be heard one week after sentence is passed. If the appeal is denied then one week after that they are put down.

I would give them two appeals. One in the state appeals court and one in federal ALL within 18 months. Then its over.

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

The only people I would consider putting to death are people like serial killers, the psychos who are SO far gone that they can't be brought back to reality. The DP is applied so arbitrarily too.

Just exactly how is the stress and strain of the loss of a loved different when its a serial killer compared to a mass murderer or a one time killer?

That's like saying "You have to kill this many to get the death penalty". The crime is not based on the number of kills but the ACT of killing.

 

[westwall]

I am not in favor of the death penalty save in very rare cases. The evidence MUST be 100%. There can be no death penalty on the table without that. In those rare cases where the death penalty is warranted, then I feel the condemned gets one appeal, to be heard one week after sentence is passed. If the appeal is denied then one week after that they are put down.

I would give them two appeals. One in the state appeals court and one in federal ALL within 18 months. Then its over.

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

The only people I would consider putting to death are people like serial killers, the psychos who are SO far gone that they can't be brought back to reality. The DP is applied so arbitrarily too.

I agree. I am fundamentally opposed to the government killing anyone. However, there are certain people who I feel deserve it. And I don't care if they suffer either. I am a bit medieval in that particular outlook.

 

[ChrisL]

I am not in favor of the death penalty save in very rare cases. The evidence MUST be 100%. There can be no death penalty on the table without that. In those rare cases where the death penalty is warranted, then I feel the condemned gets one appeal, to be heard one week after sentence is passed. If the appeal is denied then one week after that they are put down.

I would give them two appeals. One in the state appeals court and one in federal ALL within 18 months. Then its over.

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

The only people I would consider putting to death are people like serial killers, the psychos who are SO far gone that they can't be brought back to reality. The DP is applied so arbitrarily too.

I agree. I am fundamentally opposed to the government killing anyone. However, there are certain people who I feel deserve it. And I don't care if they suffer either. I am a bit medieval in that particular outlook.

I agree. There are some I would like to see get the DP too, but I try not to let my emotional side get the best of me. This is especially the case when the victim (s) is a child, an elderly person or someone else who is vulnerable. It disgusts me to the core of my being, but I still can't abide by the government putting people to death.

Now, when it comes to self defense and a homeowner shoots and kills someone or a person is being attacked and they shoot and kill someone, I don't have a problem with that.

 

[DarkFury]

I am not in favor of the death penalty save in very rare cases. The evidence MUST be 100%. There can be no death penalty on the table without that. In those rare cases where the death penalty is warranted, then I feel the condemned gets one appeal, to be heard one week after sentence is passed. If the appeal is denied then one week after that they are put down.

I would give them two appeals. One in the state appeals court and one in federal ALL within 18 months. Then its over.

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

The only people I would consider putting to death are people like serial killers, the psychos who are SO far gone that they can't be brought back to reality. The DP is applied so arbitrarily too.

I agree. I am fundamentally opposed to the government killing anyone. However, there are certain people who I feel deserve it. And I don't care if they suffer either. I am a bit medieval in that particular outlook.

The part of her argument that fails is who picks that number? And why is the number more important then the act? Its the act of murder you try a person for not the number.

 

[DarkFury]

I am not in favor of the death penalty save in very rare cases. The evidence MUST be 100%. There can be no death penalty on the table without that. In those rare cases where the death penalty is warranted, then I feel the condemned gets one appeal, to be heard one week after sentence is passed. If the appeal is denied then one week after that they are put down.

I would give them two appeals. One in the state appeals court and one in federal ALL within 18 months. Then its over.

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

The only people I would consider putting to death are people like serial killers, the psychos who are SO far gone that they can't be brought back to reality. The DP is applied so arbitrarily too.

I agree. I am fundamentally opposed to the government killing anyone. However, there are certain people who I feel deserve it. And I don't care if they suffer either. I am a bit medieval in that particular outlook.

I agree. There are some I would like to see get the DP too, but I try not to let my emotional side get the best of me. This is especially the case when the victim (s) is a child, an elderly person or someone else who is vulnerable. It disgusts me to the core of my being, but I still can't abide by the government putting people to death.

Now, when it comes to self defense and a homeowner shoots and kills someone or a person is being attacked and they shoot and kill someone, I don't have a problem with that.

I am not going to put words in your mouth but I am going to ask you a question.
How many people do you have to kill before you get the death penalty?

 

[Sunni Man]

Sunni Man Is Sharia based on Islam?

Sharia law is based on rules and regulations contained in the Quran and the Hadith's (sayings) of the Prophet. .......

 

[ChrisL]

I am not in favor of the death penalty save in very rare cases. The evidence MUST be 100%. There can be no death penalty on the table without that. In those rare cases where the death penalty is warranted, then I feel the condemned gets one appeal, to be heard one week after sentence is passed. If the appeal is denied then one week after that they are put down.

I would give them two appeals. One in the state appeals court and one in federal ALL within 18 months. Then its over.

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

The only people I would consider putting to death are people like serial killers, the psychos who are SO far gone that they can't be brought back to reality. The DP is applied so arbitrarily too.

I agree. I am fundamentally opposed to the government killing anyone. However, there are certain people who I feel deserve it. And I don't care if they suffer either. I am a bit medieval in that particular outlook.

The part of her argument that fails is who picks that number? And why is the number more important then the act? Its the act of murder you try a person for not the number.

It has nothing to do with the numbers. It has to do with a person being a psychopath which is an incurable mental illness, and being better off dead than alive, and dammit, that's "than" not "then."

 

[DarkFury]

Sunni Man Is Sharia based on Islam?

Sharia law is based on rules and regulations contained in the Quran and the Hadith's (sayings) of the Prophet. .......

I hate it when some liberal democrat comes on here to explain something they don't know anything about. And they do it instead of asking the members here who DO know.
Thanks
Fury

 

[ChrisL]

Sunni Man Is Sharia based on Islam?

Sharia law is based on rules and regulations contained in the Quran and the Hadith's (sayings) of the Prophet. .......

I hate it when some liberal democrat comes on here to explain something they don't know anything about. And they do it instead of asking the members here who DO know.
Thanks
Fury

It is an entire system that covers ALL facets of life. Duh.

 

[ChrisL]

Sunni Man Is Sharia based on Islam?

Sharia law is based on rules and regulations contained in the Quran and the Hadith's (sayings) of the Prophet. .......

I hate it when some liberal democrat comes on here to explain something they don't know anything about. And they do it instead of asking the members here who DO know.
Thanks
Fury

I already posted the information for you. Are you just ignoring it or what? Is everyone here insane or something?

 

[DarkFury]

I would give them two appeals. One in the state appeals court and one in federal ALL within 18 months. Then its over.

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

The only people I would consider putting to death are people like serial killers, the psychos who are SO far gone that they can't be brought back to reality. The DP is applied so arbitrarily too.

I agree. I am fundamentally opposed to the government killing anyone. However, there are certain people who I feel deserve it. And I don't care if they suffer either. I am a bit medieval in that particular outlook.

The part of her argument that fails is who picks that number? And why is the number more important then the act? Its the act of murder you try a person for not the number.

It has nothing to do with the numbers. It has to do with a person being a psychopath which is an incurable mental illness, and being better off dead than alive, and dammit, that's "than" not "then."

Your argument fails anyway. You want to be the judge on what level or who kills NOT the actual act. That IS a form of bigotry.

 

[DarkFury]

Sunni Man Is Sharia based on Islam?

Sharia law is based on rules and regulations contained in the Quran and the Hadith's (sayings) of the Prophet. .......

I hate it when some liberal democrat comes on here to explain something they don't know anything about. And they do it instead of asking the members here who DO know.
Thanks
Fury

I already posted the information for you. Are you just ignoring it or what? Is everyone here insane or something?

Sharia is based on religion. U.S. law is based on the will of the majority. YOU said they compare as in equal. They are not even close.

 

[ChrisL]

Too long. If the case is as iron clad as I would demand, and the crime as heinous as I would require to qualify, there is no reason to keep them around.

The only people I would consider putting to death are people like serial killers, the psychos who are SO far gone that they can't be brought back to reality. The DP is applied so arbitrarily too.

I agree. I am fundamentally opposed to the government killing anyone. However, there are certain people who I feel deserve it. And I don't care if they suffer either. I am a bit medieval in that particular outlook.

The part of her argument that fails is who picks that number? And why is the number more important then the act? Its the act of murder you try a person for not the number.

It has nothing to do with the numbers. It has to do with a person being a psychopath which is an incurable mental illness, and being better off dead than alive, and dammit, that's "than" not "then."

Your argument fails anyway. You want to be the judge on what level or who kills NOT the actual act. That IS a form of bigotry.

What in the hell are you blustering about? I don't want to be the judge. Insanity.

 

[ChrisL]

Sunni Man Is Sharia based on Islam?

Sharia law is based on rules and regulations contained in the Quran and the Hadith's (sayings) of the Prophet. .......

I hate it when some liberal democrat comes on here to explain something they don't know anything about. And they do it instead of asking the members here who DO know.
Thanks
Fury

I already posted the information for you. Are you just ignoring it or what? Is everyone here insane or something?

Sharia is based on religion. U.S. law is based on the will of the majority. YOU said they compare as in equal. They are not even close.

Not JUST religion, as I showed you in the link I posted. There are a bunch of different facets. It has laws that are NOT based on any religious beliefs.

 

[ChrisL]

Sunni Man Is Sharia based on Islam?

Sharia law is based on rules and regulations contained in the Quran and the Hadith's (sayings) of the Prophet. .......

Anyways, the law in Texas sounds like a type of backwards ass Sharia law.