The danger of religion

Where does it say that? I call bullshit.
One of MANY:

And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. 20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.
 
One of MANY:

And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. 20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.
So which army still sits on horses?
Sounds more like a bad LSD trip.
I still call bullshit. That passage was written by some guy.
You can interpret any passage any way you want, that's why we have theologians, to translate the Bible the way the USSC interprets the Constitution.
 
We do have the First Amendment codifying the Framers’ mandate that church and state remain separate.

Conservatives of course have contempt for both the First Amendment and the Framers’ mandate, where civil suits are our only recourse to combat the Christo-fascist right’s authoritarian agenda hostile to settled, accepted Establishment Clause jurisprudence.
And of course separation of church and state is nowhere in the cotus, and the first amendment doesn’t prohibit religious symbols in governemnt.
 
So which army still sits on horses?
Sounds more like a bad LSD trip.
I still call bullshit. That passage was written by some guy.
You can interpret any passage any way you want, that's why we have theologians, to translate the Bible the way the USSC interprets the Constitution.
You claim to follow the NT, but you reject the NT. You're not serious. You are an à la carte "christian". I'm wasting my breath with you.
 
See you the religion threads...
You type words with no proof.
I'm free to believe whatever I want to believe, this isn't a forced Theocracy.
You asked where the NT prophesied the Christ you CLAIM to believe will kill to save His elect. I showed you ONE. You reject the Word of God.

An an à la carte "christian" is no Christian at all.
 
I will stand by my post.
Of course you will. Because your opinions are not based in reality.

The move has already sparked criticism and legal challenges. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) said it plans to file a lawsuit challenging the Louisiana law because it is “blatantly unconstitutional” and violates the “separation of church and state.”

Landry pushed back on the criticism, telling Smith that he “didn’t know that living the Ten Commandments is a bad way to live life.”

“I mean, look, this country was founded on Judeo Christian principles and every time we steer away from that, we have problems in our nation,”
he said.



This is from the person who signed the bill trying to push the bill to put the Ten Commandments into public schools. He didn’t say anything about teaching history because they’re not pushing it to teach history. They're using it to influence people into practicing Christianity.
 
Of course you will. Because your opinions are not based in reality.

The move has already sparked criticism and legal challenges. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) said it plans to file a lawsuit challenging the Louisiana law because it is “blatantly unconstitutional” and violates the “separation of church and state.”

Landry pushed back on the criticism, telling Smith that he “didn’t know that living the Ten Commandments is a bad way to live life.”

“I mean, look, this country was founded on Judeo Christian principles and every time we steer away from that, we have problems in our nation,”
he said.



This is from the person who signed the bill trying to push the bill to put the Ten Commandments into public schools. He didn’t say anything about teaching history because they’re not pushing it to teach history. They're using it to influence people into practicing Christianity.
There is no constitutional separation of church and state. The Founders were quite clear about that. The First Amendment was to prevent the government from dictating what the people must believe or profess in religion. And it protected the right of the people to believe as they chose and worship as they chose. And that included people in government, schools, or anywhere else.

The only reason the ACLU declared war on religion was because the government paid them big bucks to do that.

So they scrounged the nation looking for any tiny religious symbol on a village, city, county seal or on a public building or historic old creches on courthouse lawns at Christmas and sued those government entities.. That was when the ACLU lost its soul and became another self serving organization instead of a champion of civil rights. And it has become so blatantly partisan and corrupt I wouldn't trust much of its opinion about much of anything.

To teach school children of the influence that religion/different religious groups have had in the migration to this 'new world', in the Declaration of Independence, in the founding documents that culminated in the U.S. Constitution, the expansion into the rest of what is now all of the USA, our art/music, architecture, values, laws, justice system that forms the culture of our country in no way violates the spirit or intent of the Constitution or the First Amendment.
 
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There is no constitutional separation of church and state. The Founders were quite clear about that. The First Amendment was to prevent the government from dictating what the people must believe or profess in religion. And it protected the right of the people to believe as they chose and worship as they chose. And that included people in government, schools, or anywhere else.

The only reason the ACLU declared war on religion was because the government paid them big bucks to do that.

So they scrounged the nation looking for any tiny religious symbol on a village, city, county seal or on a public building or historic old creches on courthouse lawns at Christmas and sued those government entities.. That was when the ACLU lost its soul and became another self serving organization instead of a champion of civil rights. And it has become so blatantly partisan and corrupt I wouldn't trust much of its opinion about much of anything.

To teach school children of the influence that religion/different religious groups have had in the migration to this 'new world', in the Declaration of Independence, in the founding documents that culminated in the U.S. Constitution, the expansion into the rest of what is now all of the USA, our art/music, architecture, values, laws, justice system that forms the culture of our country in no way violates the spirit or intent of the Constitution or the First Amendment.
That’s nice. Unfortunately for you, I just showed you that the guy who passed the bill clearly isn’t interested in teaching history, culture, architecture, or any of that other stuff. He’s simply pushing Christianity.

You’re welcome to address his direct quote any time. But you won’t because you would rather live in your own fantasy than deal with actual facts.
 
That’s nice. Unfortunately for you, I just showed you that the guy who passed the bill clearly isn’t interested in teaching history, culture, architecture, or any of that other stuff. He’s simply pushing Christianity.

You’re welcome to address his direct quote any time. But you won’t because you would rather live in your own fantasy than deal with actual facts.
You showed me one guy. I'm thinking 330,000,000+ citizens of the USA who need to know how our country came to be, what it was intended to be, why we have the values, principles, morals, values, laws, customs, traditions, culture that we have. And to demand that we leave our religious history and heritage out of that when it was the NUMBER ONE single largest factor in all of it is just ludicrous.
 
News flash: one guy cannot pass a bill. Back to civics class for you.
He’s the governor and he signed the bill into law. He’s not just some guy. He has a very significant amount of power and influence in this stuff.

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He’s the governor and he signed the bill into law. He’s not just some guy. He has a very significant amount of power and influence in this stuff.

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A majority oi the people's elected representatives have to pass the bill before a governor can sign it into law. That's what a representative democracy is. And the governor has no power to dictate to them what bills they will or will not pass. That he agreed with that majority and signed the bill just means he agreed with the text of the legislation or at least had no serious objection to it.

In this case it was a Superintendent of Education, not the governor, who mandated it and he probably did overstep his authority by not allowing the various school districts to select curriculum. But should those school districts adopts his memo as policy, I honestly don't see any harm and it could do a lot of good. If not, then I'm sure the policy will be rescinded/reversed/

But those telling Oklahoma or any school district that they cannot do that are the ones violating the Constitution. Placing the Ten Commandments, the Constitution, and a Bible in every classroom in no way violates either the letter or intent of the Constitution so long as they are not used to push any particular religious doctrine.
 

Instead of having to sue religious pedophiles to cease and desist attacking our children, we need laws with teeth to go after these religious zealots.

The developing minds of our kids are very susceptible to the pollution spread by those nutcases, and their efforts to influence youngsters with absolute bs should be made criminal, with severe punishment. But, good luck with that since you have, like Oklahoma, religious radicals in charge of the education of children.
The danger of religion? Just think, 93% of wars in human history were not religious based. So just maybe moving away from atheism is the answer!!
 
You asked where the NT prophesied the Christ you CLAIM to believe will kill to save His elect. I showed you ONE. You reject the Word of God.
An an à la carte "christian" is no Christian at all.
You did not ref the chapter & verse, so I still call bullshit that passage is from the NT.
 
So, if God is not perfect?
Or was he not perfect in the OT but he is now?
The OT was not written in the 1st person by God, it was written by men.
Moses wrote Genesis about 1,500 BC. Was he inspired by God? Were all the books of the OT? Doubtful.
The NT was a direct transcription of God in the 1st person.
 
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