The danger of religion

[Woodznutz]

Completely different issue.

It’s not about banning something scary, it’s about equality. Either all are allowed or none of them are.

I thought the atheists were afraid the kids would repent of their sins if they read the bible (our society runs on sin).

 

[XponentialChaos]

I thought the atheists were afraid the kids would repent of their sins if they read the bible (our society runs on sin).

I personally don't care as long as one religion isn't given special treatment at the expense of the others. If you want the Bible in school, fine. But it's going right next to the Quran and Satanic Bible. Enjoy.

 

[Woodznutz]

I personally don't care as long as one religion isn't given special treatment at the expense of the others. If you want the Bible in school, fine. But it's going right next to the Quran and Satanic Bible. Enjoy.

I have no problem with that. All religions have something of value to teach.

 

[Foxfyre]

Lots of blabbering without directly answering the question. I'll simplify it for you.

The governor signed the bill to:
A) promote the teaching of history, architecture, and culture.
B) promote Christianity in public classrooms.

A or B.

Landry pushed back on the criticism, telling Smith that he “didn’t know that living the Ten Commandments is a bad way to live life.”

“I mean, look, this country was founded on Judeo Christian principles and every time we steer away from that, we have problems in our nation,” he said.

I do not believe the intent was to promote Christianity but rather to promote the Christian CONCEPTS this country was founded on. And those CONCEPTS are quite evident in our history, architecture, culture, music/arts, societies.

And the fact that you seem incapable of seeing the difference between teaching religion and teaching the impact of religion on who and what a people are doesn't change that.

 

[pknopp]

It's amazing how many of you leftists can't understand that the Founders intent was to have no STATE RELIGION.

They allowed state religions. That's what the entire Jefferson letter was over.

He said the federal government could do nothing.

That did change with changes in the Constitution.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I do not believe the intent was to promote Christianity but rather to promote the Christian CONCEPTS this country was founded on. And those CONCEPTS are quite evident in our history, architecture, culture, music/arts, societies.

And the fact that you seem incapable of seeing the difference between teaching religion and teaching the impact of religion on who and what a people are doesn't change that.

Where does he say anything about Christian CONCEPTS found in our history, architecture, culture, music, art, etc?

You’re making bullshit up because you’d rather deal with that than reality. Here’s what he actually said:

“(I) didn’t know that living the Ten Commandments is a bad way to live life.”

That’s a direct quote. It’s called a fact. He passed the bill because he wants people to live their life that way, promoting Christianity. This has nothing to do with music, art, architecture, etc.

 

[Woodznutz]

Where does he say anything about Christian CONCEPTS found in our history, architecture, culture, music, art, etc?

You’re making bullshit up because you’d rather deal with that than reality. Here’s what he actually said:

“(I) didn’t know that living the Ten Commandments is a bad way to live life.”

That’s a direct quote. It’s called a fact. He passed the bill because he wants people to live their life that way, promoting Christianity. This has nothing to do with music, art, architecture, etc.

Educators have no problem with their students keeping the concepts found in the 'behavioral' commandments. Most societies promote these concepts. What educators object to is knowledge that isn't born of academia. The Bible is the greatest source of knowledge the world has and competes directly and indirectly with academia. Educators don't object to it because they believe it is false, but because they know it to be true.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Educators don't object to it because they believe it is false, but because they know it to be true.

 

[Foxfyre]

Where does he say anything about Christian CONCEPTS found in our history, architecture, culture, music, art, etc?

You’re making bullshit up because you’d rather deal with that than reality. Here’s what he actually said:

“(I) didn’t know that living the Ten Commandments is a bad way to live life.”

That’s a direct quote. It’s called a fact. He passed the bill because he wants people to live their life that way, promoting Christianity. This has nothing to do with music, art, architecture, etc.

I have the same opinion of the Ten Commandments. They aren't a bad way to live life. Doesn't mean anything more than that is my opinion. I'm sure it doesn't mean anytbing more than it is the governor's opinion if he said that. I'm sorry you see it as something evil and sinister because it isn't. FYI a Christian value is liberty and the right to have opinions even if when they disagree with XpoentialChaos.

 

[buttercup]

I didn't read the whole thread, so someone might've already said this, but...

The problem is not religion. The problem is false religion. OR, false adherents to a particular religion, which happens a lot.

Here's what the scriptures say about undefiled religion:

Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

James 1:27​

 

[XponentialChaos]

I have the same opinion of the Ten Commandments. They aren't a bad way to live life. Doesn't mean anything more than that is my opinion. I'm sure it doesn't mean anytbing more than it is the governor's opinion if he said that. I'm sorry you see it as something evil and sinister because it isn't. FYI a Christian value is liberty and the right to have opinions even if when they disagree with XpoentialChaos.

So he didn’t say anything about teaching Christian concepts found in our history, architecture, culture, music, art, etc. That part about his intent was just completely made up by you. Noted.

Maybe, just maybe, he passed the bill to promote Christianity in the classroom. Has that thought ever crossed your mind? I imagine it must be difficult to consider these ideas when you’ve shown you’d rather make up bullshit than deal with reality.

Is it evil or sinister? No. It’s just religious people wanting their religion to receive special treatment over others.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Some believe that some NDNs are/were descended from the Amalekites.

Homo Erectus

The Paleonasties and other rabid Arab rabble originated in Europe, after the Neanderthal abducted Cro-Magnon females. This was illustrated in Clan of the Cave Bear. All these humanoids were driven out by more evolved species. The pure Neanderthal had been exterminated.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Educators have no problem with their students keeping the concepts found in the 'behavioral' commandments. Most societies promote these concepts. What educators object to is knowledge that isn't born of academia. The Bible is the greatest source of knowledge the world has and competes directly and indirectly with academia. Educators don't object to it because they believe it is false, but because they know it to be true.

The Iliad and the Odyssey Were the Bible of Classical Greece

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

My dad called me Bobby until I was about 12 y/o, then he called me Bob, as he felt that I had outgrown that name. But I didn't notice any change in him, just in me. I felt more grown up.

I Didn't Find Out My Mother Had Died Until 16 Years Later

I really resented my parents calling me my kiddy name. I pointed out that my Uncle Sonny insisted on being called his adult name and they had no problem doing so. But they just laughed at me.

Their insistence on college education was my first clue that it was childish. Eventually, I refused to have anything to do with my whole family.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That's why it's called the "end time". Many lives will END, violently!

Doctrine of Domination Through Damnation

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

What's your problem? Over three million people just died from Covid. In the tribulation period billions are going to die from disease, war, and starvation. Millions die each year now from these causes.

Prometheus Shrugged

Proof that geniuses are the only supernatual beings, because they conquer nature instead of inflicting it on us, as all the theological superstitions do.

All those diseases could have been cured 50 years if High IQs had been treated with the proper respect. They didn't voluntarily go on strike, but they swallowed their pride and thereby choked their talent.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Practicing Christianity will save the nation.

Adopting Unmanly Escapist Christianity Caused the Fall of the Roman Empire

 

[Woodznutz]

Prometheus Shrugged

Proof that geniuses are the only supernatual beings, because they conquer nature instead of inflicting it on us, as all the theological superstitions do.

All those diseases could have been cured 50 years if High IQs had been treated with the proper respect. They didn't voluntarily go on strike, but they swallowed their pride and thereby choked their talent.

The frontline against disease is the immune system, which functions best if the digestive system is healthy.

Proverbs 15:17
Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.
Proverbs 17:1
Better is a dry morsel, and quietness therewith, than an house full of sacrifices with strife.

Much better for your digestion (doctors take notice).

 

[Woodznutz]

Adopting Unmanly Escapist Christianity Caused the Fall of the Roman Empire

Some truth to that, but the final destruction won't occur until Christ returns.

 

[surada]

You claim to follow the NT, but you reject the NT. You're not serious. You are an à la carte "christian". I'm wasting my breath with you.

Jesus responds to Pontius Pilate about the nature of his kingdom: "My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But now (or 'as it is') my kingdom is not from the world" (John 18:36); i.e., his religious teachings were separate from earthly political activity.

This reflects a traditional division in Christian thought by which state and church have separate spheres of influence.

This can be interpreted either a Catholic, or Thomist, way (Gelasian doctrine) or a Protestant, or Lockean, way (separation of church and state).