the created Jesus

[kjw47]

No more physical death? Seriously? How do you resolve that belief with the facts of reality?

And who is satan, who are his followers, how will they be destroyed, and how does that end death?

Satan, his followers and death will all be destroyed in the lake of fire.

 

[hobelim]

Satan, his followers and death will all be destroyed in the lake of fire.

That doesn't answer my questions. Do you believe that the death of the body will end on earth?

Who is satan, who are his followers?

how will they be destroyed? The lake of fire? OK, what is the lake of fire?

How does that end death?

 

[kjw47]

That doesn't answer my questions. Do you believe that the death of the body will end on earth?

Who is satan, who are his followers?

how will they be destroyed? The lake of fire? OK, what is the lake of fire?

How does that end death?

its total destruction forever. Rev 20:14-- at the end of Rev 20 all things are back to perfection,( new heavens and new earth= Gods kingdom rule in full control, no more satan influences ever. All will have proved they stand up for God, all rebels will be destroyed.

 

[Clyde 154]

Isaiah 9:6 was about the future king Hezekiah. He will be called mighty God is just a deliberate mistranslation of the word elohim, which also means judge, by magod worshipping apologists. It should read, "he will be called mighty judge". The rest of your scriptural evidence is either an ignorant interpretation of what was written or outright lies written by either paul from a roman prison, or by his roman captors, that directly contradict the words of Jesus himself concerning not only his relationship to God but also the importance, subjects, and relevance of the Law; the way to eternal life and the firmament of the kingdom of Heaven.

You would have to discard the teaching of whole OT, what Jesus believed, to claim that a human being was or became an unequalled three in one coequal God. It's absurd illogical perverse and even more astonishing that anyone still swallows this specious bullshit in this day and age.

Do you believe that Jesus made the law obsolete?

Would you like to see what Jesus said about his God and the law?

Jesus.........fulfilled THE LAW OF MOSES by nailing it to His sacrificial cross, that was the reason He came to earth. Indeed the law of Moses was made obsolete......but the eternally righteous mandates of the OLD LAW, the core that was not personal to the nation of Biblical Israel was carried forth into the New Testament of Christ Jesus. All the 10 commandments save the command to worship on the 7th day, the Sabbath (which did not exist prior to Moses) exists in commands of Jesus..........today its the 1st day of the week that is dedicated to Christ Jesus (Sunday). Throughout history God has made more than 1 covenant with mankind. The last is the Covenant of Christ Jesus which clearly states, "I am the way, the truth, the life, no man comes to God except through Me (Jesus)" -- John 14:6

The Law and commands of Moses was only made for the people of Biblical Isarel, not for their ancestors nor any other of the nations of the earth ......no gentile was ever made to obey the Old Law of Moses, it was for Israel only. The Law of Moses was temporary and had limits and would be replaced by the Law of Christ (Jer. 31:31-34). Sabbath worship did not exist until Israel came out of the land of captivity in Egypt (Deut. 5:12-15) The LAW of MOSES was only for the nation of Israel (Deut. 5:1-3).


There is no command for man to worship on the 7th day until after the Exodus (Ex. 20:8-11)

Its very easy to prove. Commandment 1. NO OTHER GODS: carried forward in (Matt.4:10, Acts 17:16, Rom. 1:25, 1 Cor. 8:4-6, Phil. 3:19, Col. 2:18, Rev. 19:10, 22:9)

2. NO CRAVEN IMAGE WORSHIP: (Acts 15:29, Rom. 1:22-23, 1 Cor. 6:9-10, 10:14, Eph. 5:5, 1 John 5:21, Rev. 21:8, 22:15)

3. DO NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN: (Matt. 5:33-37, 22:16-21, James 5:12)

4. REMEMBER THE SABBATH TO KEEP IT HOLY: No command exists in the NT. In fact the record in the NT clearly states this command has been replaced because it was specific to Biblical Isarel (Col. 2:16-17), let no man judge you for not observing the Old Sabbath Laws.

YET; Here is someone attempting to judge others based upon sabbath worship. They are called 7th day adventists and some like the JWs (who have made up their own bible along with many failed prophecies). Among other false antichrist doctrines based upon scriptural ignorance.

Anyone? Show us the scripture in the Old Testament where Sabbath Worship existed and was formally observed before the Law of Moses, or observed as a command of God in the NT.

5. HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHERS: (Matt.15:4-9, Rom. 1:30, Eph. 6:1-3, Col. 3:20)

6. YOU SHALL NOT MURDER (KILL): (Matt.15:19, Mark 7:21-23, Rom. 1:29, 13:9, 1 Tim. 1:9-10, James 2:11, 1 John 3:15).

7: YOU SHALL NOT COMMITT ADULTERY: (Mark 7:21-23, 10:11-12, Acts15:20, Rom 2:22, 7:2-3, 13:9, 1 Cor. 6:9-10, 7:5, Heb. 13:4)

8. YOU SHALL NOT STEAL: (Matt. 15:19, Mark 7:21-23, Luke 3:13-14, Rom. 13:9, 1 Cor.6:9-10, Eph. 4:28, James 5:4).

9. YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS: (Matt. 15:19, Luke 3:14, Rom. 1:29-30, 13:9, Eph. 4:31, 1 Tim. 1:9-10, 2 Tim. 3:3, James 4:11).

10. YOU SHALL NOT COVET: (Mark 7:21-23, Luke 12:15, Acts 20:33, Rom. 1:29, 13:9, 1 Cor. 6:9-10, Eph. 5:3, Phil. 3:19, Col. 3:5, Heb. 13:5).