The country is being run by "low informed Liberals"

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Hey, just because yo're miss informed could you be mister informed?

Mac is on my ignore list just for those reasons
grammar patrol are for low informed libs who have nothing else to say
Un informed?
Low information voter?

matters not

When you are lamenting the ignorance of others, it is wise to demonstrate you understand the English language

Otherwise, Youse looks two ignrnt too no what youse talk in bout

Even with correct spelling and grammar, the poster would nonetheless exhibit his ignorance.

 

[JRK]

I'll tell you what voters are looking for and it ain't a handout

Americans want security
They want a job that pays a decent wage. They want to be taken care of if they get sick. They want to someday retire. They want their kids to grow up and take care of themselves

It used to be called the American dream

Until Republicans stop calling those who no longer have the American dream a bunch of moochers......they will not get elected

Many Republicans do seem to stereotype all those in need as moochers. For some reason they seem to resent any "safety net" that may exist. There is no shame in asking for help when someone needs it. Churches do serve a purpose in that regard but some of them often have an air of intrusion about them. When I was down and out a few years ago, I went to a church organization for assistance and it asked too many questions about my personal life--I didn't feel comfortable about that, so I ended up at another organization asking for help. There are a lot of people who defraud the system and they are responsible for the stereotyping.

What you stated about the American dream is neither a Democratic or a Republican concept. It is an American one.

So the billions od help that was taken out of the 2.7 trillion we spent in 2007 means less than the same we took out in 2012? while spending 3.8 trillion then?

 

[JRK]

Mac is on my ignore list just for those reasons
grammar patrol are for low informed libs who have nothing else to say
Un informed?
Low information voter?

matters not

When you are lamenting the ignorance of others, it is wise to demonstrate you understand the English language

Otherwise, Youse looks two ignrnt too no what youse talk in bout

Even with correct spelling and grammar, the poster would nonetheless exhibit his ignorance.

that is best you got?
grammar police?
I always know when the lib is beat
It becomes personal every time
Haba good day

 

[Agit8r]

That worked so well for Romney, didn't it? That 47%.

Exactly. Telling the truth got him kicked down. This is why we will never have a fiscal conservative in the white house, ans spending will take us down very soon.

again, case and point

States that voted overwhelmingly for Romney had the lowest percentage of tax units that paid taxes, for instance of the 1,134,626 tax returns filed by Utahns, only 699,598 payed any income tax. That comes to 38.3%, or 3.4% more "entitled victims" than the national average.

Crackpot Doom Scandal: "47 percent of Americans are entitled victims"

 

[Billo_Really]

Where do I start?
The defict
2007 we were within 162 billion of a balanced budget with the Iraq war wide open
last year that was well over 1 trillion with no Iraq war
we spent 2.7 in 07
we spent 3.8 last year

That's not an example of liberal mis-information. Both sides of the aisle give the Pentagon everything they ask for. The defense budget is obscene and takes the lions share of taxpayer dollars. Yet you hardly ever hear of those on the right wanting to reduce it. The dems say they do, but never follow through with it.

we are still 4 million jobs short of 08 levels, with that much additional spending how can that be?

Because it's going to Defense Dept contractors, all these security contractors we've added since 9/11 and to fighting these bullshit wars we've in for the last decade.

If we cut the defense budget in half, ended the wars, closed the over 1000 bases around the world and used that money for infrastructure projects and reducing the deficit, you'd see that 4 million back into the workforce.

we have 8 million people + that have left the work force that are not being included in the UE rate

That's because they stopped looking for jobs.

How is that a liberal issue?

Thats just a start
You voted for this man who has lied to you
from GM

GM paid the money back.

to Job growth

Obama did submit several job bills, but the GOP fillibustered and obstructed everyone of them.

to we have a revenue issue and not a spending issue

It is a revenue issue. According to the CBO, the biggest change in government revenue has been the two wars we are fighting and the Bush tax cuts. If we got rid of both, we'd be able to pay our bills.

BTW, the CBO is bi-partisan, so this isn't a liberal issue either.

shall I go on?

Yeah, I think you should, because your examples didn't prove your point.

 

[JRK]

Where do I start?
The defict
2007 we were within 162 billion of a balanced budget with the Iraq war wide open
last year that was well over 1 trillion with no Iraq war
we spent 2.7 in 07
we spent 3.8 last year

That's not an example of liberal mis-information. Both sides of the aisle give the Pentagon everything they ask for. The defense budget is obscene and takes the lions share of taxpayer dollars. Yet you hardly ever hear of those on the right wanting to reduce it. The dems say they do, but never follow through with it.

we are still 4 million jobs short of 08 levels, with that much additional spending how can that be?

Because it's going to Defense Dept contractors, all these security contractors we've added since 9/11 and to fighting these bullshit wars we've in for the last decade.

If we cut the defense budget in half, ended the wars, closed the over 1000 bases around the world and used that money for infrastructure projects and reducing the deficit, you'd see that 4 million back into the workforce.

That's because they stopped looking for jobs.

How is that a liberal issue?

GM paid the money back.

Obama did submit several job bills, but the GOP fillibustered and obstructed everyone of them.

to we have a revenue issue and not a spending issue

It is a revenue issue. According to the CBO, the biggest change in government revenue has been the two wars we are fighting and the Bush tax cuts. If we got rid of both, we'd be able to pay our bills.

BTW, the CBO is bi-partisan, so this isn't a liberal issue either.

shall I go on?

Yeah, I think you should, because your examples didn't prove your point.

okay
GM paid shit back
40 billion with GMAC
GM: Still $42B in the Hole | Washington Free Beacon

bush tax cuts?
But the real jolt for tax-cutting opponents was that the 03 Bush tax cuts also generated a massive increase in federal tax receipts. From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history. According to the Treasury Department, individual and corporate income tax receipts were up 40 percent in the three years following the Bush tax cuts. And (bonus) the rich paid an even higher percentage of the total tax burden than they had at any time in at least the previous 40 years. This was news to theNew York Times, whose astonished editorial board could only describe the gains as a “surprise windfall.”

Read more: DWYER: Bush tax cuts boosted federal revenue - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

you want more?
stopped looking for what jobs?
without oil and gas, its dead

 

[Billo_Really]

bush tax cuts?
But the real jolt for tax-cutting opponents was that the 03 Bush tax cuts also generated a massive increase in federal tax receipts. From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history.

According to the Treasury Department, individual and corporate income tax receipts were up 40 percent in the three years following the Bush tax cuts. And (bonus) the rich paid an even higher percentage of the total tax burden than they had at any time in at least the previous 40 years. This was news to theNew York Times, whose astonished editorial board could only describe the gains as a “surprise windfall.”

Read more: DWYER: Bush tax cuts boosted federal revenue - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

Most of those claims are un-substantiated and your link doesn't even provide a reference to the claim. Not to mention the logic in it. How is it possible to cut the tax rate and have revenue go up? Especially when corporations didn't use their tax benefits to re-invest back into the economy.

When you look at federal revenue from 2001-2009, it goes down.

Analysis by Citizens for Tax Justice claims that the Bush era tax cuts resulted in $1,918.9 billion in lower revenue from FY2001 through FY2009, and that the total cost if implementing the cuts (including interest payments on debt) was $2,141 billion.

you want more?
stopped looking for what jobs?
without oil and gas, its dead

Bullshit. Housing starts have the biggest impact on job growth for the economy. The construction industry puts more people to work faster than any other industry.

 

[Qball]

The problem is, people have convinced themselves that liberals are the smart people and conservatives are the dumb people. They forget that both sides just encompass certain opinions and philosophies on the government. It isn't a matter of intellect. Because of this, you have dumb people trying to prop themselves up by being in the tank for the left. That's why so much of the left is only defined by the "sins" of the right.

 

[Erand7899]

Really who pays for the Low information states?

Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.

Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.

New Mexico: $2.03
Mississippi: $2.02
Alaska: $1.84
Louisiana: $1.78
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
Alabama: $1.66
South Dakota: $1.53
Kentucky: $1.51
Virginia: $1.51
Montana: $1.47
Hawaii: $1.44
Maine: $1.41
Arkansas: $1.41
Oklahoma: $1.36
South Carolina: $1.35
Missouri: $1.32
Maryland: $1.30
Tennessee: $1.27
Idaho: $1.21
Does anyone else notice the overwhelming presence of northern "rugged individualist" states, like Alaska, the Dakotas and Montana, along with most of the South? Why it's almost like there's a pattern here or something.

Where can we find liberal bastions California, New York, and Massachusetts? California is 43rd, getting back only $0.78 for every dollar it sends to Washington. New York is 42nd, and one penny better off, at $0.79 per dollar. Massachusetts is 40th, receiving $0.82 for every dollar it sends to DC.
The next time some smarmy teabagger tries to tell you it's liberals who are ruining the country and spending us into oblivion, kindly point them to the evidence that shows it is GOP states, not Democrat states, who are Welfare Queens. It is GOP states who spend more than they collect in taxes.




Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider

States do not pay Federal income tax.
People who live in the States pay Federal taxes.
State taxes and Federal taxes are two different taxes and are separate from each other.

And the People who live in that state are supporting the freeloaders who live in red states

Figures lie, and liars figure. Almost all of those listed states have far less population than other states, such as New York and California. The federal government owns large amounts of land in most of the Western States, and pays to the states an amount in lieu of property taxes. Many of those states have large populations of military and large military installations. Consequently, the term "welfare" is nonsense.

A dollar spent on interstate highways in Montana is averaged over a much smaller population in Montana, than it is in New York. The same applies to federal courthouses, post offices, etc.

 

[Billo_Really]

you have dumb people trying to prop themselves up by being in the tank for the left.

The "bagger nation" is not on the left.

And there is no dumber American group than them.

 

[Erand7899]

Where do I start?
The defict
2007 we were within 162 billion of a balanced budget with the Iraq war wide open
last year that was well over 1 trillion with no Iraq war
we spent 2.7 in 07
we spent 3.8 last year

That's not an example of liberal mis-information. Both sides of the aisle give the Pentagon everything they ask for. The defense budget is obscene and takes the lions share of taxpayer dollars. Yet you hardly ever hear of those on the right wanting to reduce it. The dems say they do, but never follow through with it.

we are still 4 million jobs short of 08 levels, with that much additional spending how can that be?

Because it's going to Defense Dept contractors, all these security contractors we've added since 9/11 and to fighting these bullshit wars we've in for the last decade.

If we cut the defense budget in half, ended the wars, closed the over 1000 bases around the world and used that money for infrastructure projects and reducing the deficit, you'd see that 4 million back into the workforce.

That's because they stopped looking for jobs.

How is that a liberal issue?

GM paid the money back.

Obama did submit several job bills, but the GOP fillibustered and obstructed everyone of them.

to we have a revenue issue and not a spending issue

It is a revenue issue. According to the CBO, the biggest change in government revenue has been the two wars we are fighting and the Bush tax cuts. If we got rid of both, we'd be able to pay our bills.

BTW, the CBO is bi-partisan, so this isn't a liberal issue either.

shall I go on?

Yeah, I think you should, because your examples didn't prove your point.

Even though the economy is in the toilet, income tax revenues for 2013 are expected to be $1.7 trillion. Higher than at any time in the past. That is what those Bush tax cuts did for you. Imagine what those revenue figures would be if the liberals in power would spend as much effort getting the economy going, than they spend on staying in power.

 

[JRK]

The problem is, people have convinced themselves that liberals are the smart people and conservatives are the dumb people. They forget that both sides just encompass certain opinions and philosophies on the government. It isn't a matter of intellect. Because of this, you have dumb people trying to prop themselves up by being in the tank for the left. That's why so much of the left is only defined by the "sins" of the right.

The libs are either in denial or have no intrest in admitting what they value
Libs are in denial
Or
They do not want to admit they support this massive govt that BHO and the extreme left congress has created
I was not happy with GWB adding neither Medicare D nor no child without funding it. He added with the 2 wars included, 700 billion with the GOP congress in 7 years.
BHO and the liberal congress added that much in 4 with an additional 3-400 billion
Now blaming W on everything and agreeing with BHO we do not have a spending problem is denial. This is just an example

 

[JRK]

bush tax cuts?
But the real jolt for tax-cutting opponents was that the 03 Bush tax cuts also generated a massive increase in federal tax receipts. From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history.

According to the Treasury Department, individual and corporate income tax receipts were up 40 percent in the three years following the Bush tax cuts. And (bonus) the rich paid an even higher percentage of the total tax burden than they had at any time in at least the previous 40 years. This was news to theNew York Times, whose astonished editorial board could only describe the gains as a “surprise windfall.”

Read more: DWYER: Bush tax cuts boosted federal revenue - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

Most of those claims are un-substantiated and your link doesn't even provide a reference to the claim. Not to mention the logic in it. How is it possible to cut the tax rate and have revenue go up? Especially when corporations didn't use their tax benefits to re-invest back into the economy.

When you look at federal revenue from 2001-2009, it goes down.

Analysis by Citizens for Tax Justice claims that the Bush era tax cuts resulted in $1,918.9 billion in lower revenue from FY2001 through FY2009, and that the total cost if implementing the cuts (including interest payments on debt) was $2,141 billion.

you want more?
stopped looking for what jobs?
without oil and gas, its dead

Bullshit. Housing starts have the biggest impact on job growth for the economy. The construction industry puts more people to work faster than any other industry.

Never said they did not
were talking jobs from 09 to present
BHO claims to have creted 4+ million jobs
(were 4 million below 08 levels still)
The oil and gas created most of those jobs

Reuters) - The U.S. oil and gas rush is cutting into jobless numbers, supporting a total of 1.7 million jobs this year, a number that will swell to almost 3 million by 2020, a leading consultant said in a study released on Tuesday.
As unconventional U.S. oil, gas boom, so do jobs: report | Reuters

You Libs are so quick to defend this man, you want take the time to read the info

 

[Billo_Really]

You Libs are so quick to defend this man, you want take the time to read the info

I'm not defending him.

I withdrew my support for his policies over 3 years ago.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Those liberals were right about the Iraq War not being worth it, so they seem pretty highly informed to me.

They also understood that actually getting OBL and not just talking about it was the right thing to do.

I can't believe conservatives actually sit around wondering why they lost two Presidential elections in a row.

 

[JRK]

Where do I start?
The defict
2007 we were within 162 billion of a balanced budget with the Iraq war wide open
last year that was well over 1 trillion with no Iraq war
we spent 2.7 in 07
we spent 3.8 last year

That's not an example of liberal mis-information. Both sides of the aisle give the Pentagon everything they ask for. The defense budget is obscene and takes the lions share of taxpayer dollars. Yet you hardly ever hear of those on the right wanting to reduce it. The dems say they do, but never follow through with it.

Because it's going to Defense Dept contractors, all these security contractors we've added since 9/11 and to fighting these bullshit wars we've in for the last decade.

If we cut the defense budget in half, ended the wars, closed the over 1000 bases around the world and used that money for infrastructure projects and reducing the deficit, you'd see that 4 million back into the workforce.

That's because they stopped looking for jobs.

How is that a liberal issue?

GM paid the money back.

Obama did submit several job bills, but the GOP fillibustered and obstructed everyone of them.

It is a revenue issue. According to the CBO, the biggest change in government revenue has been the two wars we are fighting and the Bush tax cuts. If we got rid of both, we'd be able to pay our bills.

BTW, the CBO is bi-partisan, so this isn't a liberal issue either.

shall I go on?

Yeah, I think you should, because your examples didn't prove your point.

Even though the economy is in the toilet, income tax revenues for 2013 are expected to be $1.7 trillion. Higher than at any time in the past. That is what those Bush tax cuts did for you. Imagine what those revenue figures would be if the liberals in power would spend as much effort getting the economy going, than they spend on staying in power.

The biggest issue with tax returns is the UE rate, low paying jobs and 8 million people leaving the work force sense BHO took office
Tax rates have little to do with it and can only hurt more than can help
GWB had it close
but
we need a system like Florida has to get it right

 

[JRK]

Republicans had every chance to educate those "low informed liberals" on why their policies are good for the country. They failed miserably because those "low informed liberals" were smart enough to realize that Republican policies were only good for the wealthy

Do you really think the people would buy into that "Job Creator" nonsense you were selling?

You're a very patient man.
.

No shit.........I mean "ditto" man.

Unconventional Oil and Gas Industry Created 1.7 Million Jobs This Year
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/...as-industry-created-17-million-jobs-this-year

Thats most of the jobs created in 2012
If your having a housing boom in North Texas or in the golden triangle in Houston Texas
It is because of the oil and gas sector (Jobs)
It is what we call tricle down economics

In the top 16 you have
N.D
S.D (top 3)
Wyoming 4
Okl 7
La 12th
and Texas 16th with Montana, Nebraska and Kansas thrown in
why?

Drill baby Drill
Unemployment Rates for States