“The Continuing Deterioration Of K-12 Government Schooling”

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Government school....owned and operated by Liberalism, Inc.

While it is difficult to pinpoint when the deterioration began, there is no doubt that earlier generations learned far more than what government school produces today.

And, coincidentally, the decay can be plotted along the same lines as Liberal control. One significant date is in 1980 when Democrat incompetent….is that redundant?...Jimmy Carter instituted the unconstitutional creation of a federal education department.



“…all the evidence shows that government schools do a terrible job.”


1."…cast a cold look at the performance of schools… Consider the trends: Since 2005, SAT reading scores have dropped by 14 points. A writing component was added to the SAT in 2006, and scores have dropped every year since then except for two years when they were flat. Math scores for 2015 were the lowest in 20 years. …On the ACT’s measure of “college readiness” in math, English, reading, and science, slightly more than one-third of test takers met the benchmarks in three subjects, while another one-third did not meet any(!) of the benchmarks. …According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress exams (the “Nation’s Report Card,” administered by the Education Department’s National Center for Educational Statistics), only one-quarter of 12th-graders are proficient in civics, one-fifth in geography, just over one-third (37 percent) in reading, one-fifth (22 percent) in science, and one-eighth (12 percent) in US history. Only one-quarter of them reach proficiency in math. …At the same time, we have another discrepancy, outcomes versus public school funding. …Adjusted for inflation, the national average for per-pupil spending rose steadily…the cost-benefit numbers continue to look bleak."
The job of the education secretary isn’t to defend public schools. It’s to help kids learn.



2. “A Nation at Risk…revealed, in the words of Ronald Reagan, an education system plagued by “low standards, lack of purpose, ineffective use of resources, and a failure to challenge students to push performance to the boundaries of individual ability.” …Since then the nation has devoted a great deal of attention to getting education right. To little avail. …The results of the 2017 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)…, released this month, are dismal. Fewer than half of students are rated “proficient” in each of these subjects.” Test Score Statistics Are Stagnant, 35 Years after ‘A Nation at Risk’ | National Review




3. “The fundamental problem is that teacher unions are in bed with politicians.

This doesn’t just mean that government schools are needlessly expensive (and they are). It also means that the government monopoly primarily exists as a tool to serve bureaucracy rather than students.” The Continuing Deterioration Of K-12 Government Schooling



America will never be saved from the abyss if schools are not severed from the political bureaucracy, and citizens are provided with more options for schooling their children without indoctrination.
 
Government school....owned and operated by Liberalism, Inc.

While it is difficult to pinpoint when the deterioration began, there is no doubt that earlier generations learned far more than what government school produces today.

And, coincidentally, the decay can be plotted along the same lines as Liberal control. One significant date is in 1980 when Democrat incompetent….is that redundant?...Jimmy Carter instituted the unconstitutional creation of a federal education department.



“…all the evidence shows that government schools do a terrible job.”


1."…cast a cold look at the performance of schools… Consider the trends: Since 2005, SAT reading scores have dropped by 14 points. A writing component was added to the SAT in 2006, and scores have dropped every year since then except for two years when they were flat. Math scores for 2015 were the lowest in 20 years. …On the ACT’s measure of “college readiness” in math, English, reading, and science, slightly more than one-third of test takers met the benchmarks in three subjects, while another one-third did not meet any(!) of the benchmarks. …According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress exams (the “Nation’s Report Card,” administered by the Education Department’s National Center for Educational Statistics), only one-quarter of 12th-graders are proficient in civics, one-fifth in geography, just over one-third (37 percent) in reading, one-fifth (22 percent) in science, and one-eighth (12 percent) in US history. Only one-quarter of them reach proficiency in math. …At the same time, we have another discrepancy, outcomes versus public school funding. …Adjusted for inflation, the national average for per-pupil spending rose steadily…the cost-benefit numbers continue to look bleak."
The job of the education secretary isn’t to defend public schools. It’s to help kids learn.



2. “A Nation at Risk…revealed, in the words of Ronald Reagan, an education system plagued by “low standards, lack of purpose, ineffective use of resources, and a failure to challenge students to push performance to the boundaries of individual ability.” …Since then the nation has devoted a great deal of attention to getting education right. To little avail. …The results of the 2017 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)…, released this month, are dismal. Fewer than half of students are rated “proficient” in each of these subjects.” Test Score Statistics Are Stagnant, 35 Years after ‘A Nation at Risk’ | National Review




3. “The fundamental problem is that teacher unions are in bed with politicians.

This doesn’t just mean that government schools are needlessly expensive (and they are). It also means that the government monopoly primarily exists as a tool to serve bureaucracy rather than students.” The Continuing Deterioration Of K-12 Government Schooling



America will never be saved from the abyss if schools are not severed from the political bureaucracy, and citizens are provided with more options for schooling their children without indoctrination.
The first step would be to destroy the Teacher Unions hegemony.
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.
 
Government school....owned and operated by Liberalism, Inc.

While it is difficult to pinpoint when the deterioration began, there is no doubt that earlier generations learned far more than what government school produces today.

And, coincidentally, the decay can be plotted along the same lines as Liberal control. One significant date is in 1980 when Democrat incompetent….is that redundant?...Jimmy Carter instituted the unconstitutional creation of a federal education department.



“…all the evidence shows that government schools do a terrible job.”


1."…cast a cold look at the performance of schools… Consider the trends: Since 2005, SAT reading scores have dropped by 14 points. A writing component was added to the SAT in 2006, and scores have dropped every year since then except for two years when they were flat. Math scores for 2015 were the lowest in 20 years. …On the ACT’s measure of “college readiness” in math, English, reading, and science, slightly more than one-third of test takers met the benchmarks in three subjects, while another one-third did not meet any(!) of the benchmarks. …According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress exams (the “Nation’s Report Card,” administered by the Education Department’s National Center for Educational Statistics), only one-quarter of 12th-graders are proficient in civics, one-fifth in geography, just over one-third (37 percent) in reading, one-fifth (22 percent) in science, and one-eighth (12 percent) in US history. Only one-quarter of them reach proficiency in math. …At the same time, we have another discrepancy, outcomes versus public school funding. …Adjusted for inflation, the national average for per-pupil spending rose steadily…the cost-benefit numbers continue to look bleak."
The job of the education secretary isn’t to defend public schools. It’s to help kids learn.



2. “A Nation at Risk…revealed, in the words of Ronald Reagan, an education system plagued by “low standards, lack of purpose, ineffective use of resources, and a failure to challenge students to push performance to the boundaries of individual ability.” …Since then the nation has devoted a great deal of attention to getting education right. To little avail. …The results of the 2017 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)…, released this month, are dismal. Fewer than half of students are rated “proficient” in each of these subjects.” Test Score Statistics Are Stagnant, 35 Years after ‘A Nation at Risk’ | National Review




3. “The fundamental problem is that teacher unions are in bed with politicians.

This doesn’t just mean that government schools are needlessly expensive (and they are). It also means that the government monopoly primarily exists as a tool to serve bureaucracy rather than students.” The Continuing Deterioration Of K-12 Government Schooling



America will never be saved from the abyss if schools are not severed from the political bureaucracy, and citizens are provided with more options for schooling their children without indoctrination.
The first step would be to destroy the Teacher Unions hegemony.



Nah.....we destroy the Political control and bribery.....raises for votes.



I have no problem with workers looking for a raise, and the Constitution mandates the right " to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


But I wouldn't object to raises tied to student scores......
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.




Not necessarily. The unions might decide to get ugly, in which case they would get what they deserve, but if enough people care, their power can be broken through legal means.
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.




Not necessarily. The unions might decide to get ugly, in which case they would get what they deserve, but if enough people care, their power can be broken through legal means.


All that need be done is provide other pathways for parents to use.


We are a home school family.

There is no tax break for those who don't use the government schools.


And there's this:

3-homeschooler-national-average-percentile-scores.jpg

Homeschool World - News - Some Fascinating Facts About Homeschool vs Public School
 
Government school....owned and operated by Liberalism, Inc.

While it is difficult to pinpoint when the deterioration began, there is no doubt that earlier generations learned far more than what government school produces today.

And, coincidentally, the decay can be plotted along the same lines as Liberal control. One significant date is in 1980 when Democrat incompetent….is that redundant?...Jimmy Carter instituted the unconstitutional creation of a federal education department.



“…all the evidence shows that government schools do a terrible job.”


1."…cast a cold look at the performance of schools… Consider the trends: Since 2005, SAT reading scores have dropped by 14 points. A writing component was added to the SAT in 2006, and scores have dropped every year since then except for two years when they were flat. Math scores for 2015 were the lowest in 20 years. …On the ACT’s measure of “college readiness” in math, English, reading, and science, slightly more than one-third of test takers met the benchmarks in three subjects, while another one-third did not meet any(!) of the benchmarks. …According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress exams (the “Nation’s Report Card,” administered by the Education Department’s National Center for Educational Statistics), only one-quarter of 12th-graders are proficient in civics, one-fifth in geography, just over one-third (37 percent) in reading, one-fifth (22 percent) in science, and one-eighth (12 percent) in US history. Only one-quarter of them reach proficiency in math. …At the same time, we have another discrepancy, outcomes versus public school funding. …Adjusted for inflation, the national average for per-pupil spending rose steadily…the cost-benefit numbers continue to look bleak."
The job of the education secretary isn’t to defend public schools. It’s to help kids learn.



2. “A Nation at Risk…revealed, in the words of Ronald Reagan, an education system plagued by “low standards, lack of purpose, ineffective use of resources, and a failure to challenge students to push performance to the boundaries of individual ability.” …Since then the nation has devoted a great deal of attention to getting education right. To little avail. …The results of the 2017 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)…, released this month, are dismal. Fewer than half of students are rated “proficient” in each of these subjects.” Test Score Statistics Are Stagnant, 35 Years after ‘A Nation at Risk’ | National Review




3. “The fundamental problem is that teacher unions are in bed with politicians.

This doesn’t just mean that government schools are needlessly expensive (and they are). It also means that the government monopoly primarily exists as a tool to serve bureaucracy rather than students.” The Continuing Deterioration Of K-12 Government Schooling



America will never be saved from the abyss if schools are not severed from the political bureaucracy, and citizens are provided with more options for schooling their children without indoctrination.
The first step would be to destroy the Teacher Unions hegemony.



Nah.....we destroy the Political control and bribery.....raises for votes.



I have no problem with workers looking for a raise, and the Constitution mandates the right " to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


But I wouldn't object to raises tied to student scores......
Taking away their ability to award seniority instead of results would destroy the teachers union.
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.




Not necessarily. The unions might decide to get ugly, in which case they would get what they deserve, but if enough people care, their power can be broken through legal means.


All that need be done is provide other pathways for parents to use.


We are a home school family.

There is no tax break for those who don't use the government schools.


And there's this:

3-homeschooler-national-average-percentile-scores.jpg




My daughter goes to a private school, but even there we get no tax breaks either. And, last year, they had a terrible math teacher. Gone this year, but that teacher had been a public school teacher.
 
When Progressives/Democrats are in charge, the mission of the schools becomes jettisoned and another purpose is put in place….a racist indoctrination aimed at turning out good little Democrats.




Any damage is simply collateral, or as an earlier homicidal regime put it, “"you've got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette".


6. “In Tampa Bay, Fla., 66% of teachers said that the new policy did not make schools more orderly. In Santa Ana, Calif., as well, 66% of teachers said the new system was not working. In Denver, Colo., 75% of teachers said that the new system did not improve student behavior. In Madison, Wis., only 13% of teachers thought that discipline reform was having a positive effect. But in Baton Rouge, La., 60% of teachers said there was an increase in violence or violent threats from students, and in Syracuse, N.Y., two-thirds of teachers said they were worried about their safety at work.


7. …Marc Bruno, a teacher who got kicked in the head by a student said: “We have fights here almost every day.... The kids walk around and say, ‘We can’t get suspended — we don’t care what you say.’”

8…. schools have become less respectful, more disorderly places for millions of students. The bitter irony is that the effort to limit the “school-to-prison pipeline” has likely only increased its flow.

9. The Obama administration issued “guidance” coercing school districts to second-guess their teachers’ judgment on how to maintain discipline and order. The Trump administration should rescind that mis-guidance, ….’
Obama admin made schools more dangerous: Column




10. "Despite committing a string of arrestable offenses on campus before the Florida school shooting, Nikolas Cruz was able to escape the attention of law enforcement, pass a background check and purchase the weapon he used to slaughter three staff members and 14 fellow students because of Obama administration efforts to make school discipline more lenient."
https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html



No matter where you look, the Democrats are on the side of the felons, not the innocent, law-abiding citizens.
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.




Not necessarily. The unions might decide to get ugly, in which case they would get what they deserve, but if enough people care, their power can be broken through legal means.


All that need be done is provide other pathways for parents to use.


We are a home school family.

There is no tax break for those who don't use the government schools.


And there's this:

3-homeschooler-national-average-percentile-scores.jpg




My daughter goes to a private school, but even there we get no tax breaks either. And, last year, they had a terrible math teacher. Gone this year, but that teacher had been a public school teacher.



We'll always have unqualified teachers.....be shouldn't have to keep 'em.



You may find this interesting:


There is no convincing evidence that certified teachers are more effective in the classroom or that ed-school-based training helps.
Education Schools Project

See http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dstaiger/Papers/nyc fellows march 2006.pdf for evidence that certification has very little effect on student achievement.



“…private schools appear to do fine- perhaps better-without being compelled to hire state certified teachers.” “Troublemaker,” by Chester E. Finn, Jr. Former Assistant Secretary of Education under President Reagan.
“Troublemaker,” p. 283.


The American Board for Certification of Teacher Excellence proposed the following requirements alone for a teaching license: graduate college, pass a criminal background check, and a rigorous test of knowledge of their subject.




Why has American tripled its teaching force instead of paying more to fewer but superior instructors?

a. The seductiveness of smaller classes.

b. Institutional interests profit from a larger teaching force: unions, colleges, certain political parties.

c. Societal, legal and political forces press schools to treat children differently, resulting in various sets of classes, especially ‘special ed.’
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.




Not necessarily. The unions might decide to get ugly, in which case they would get what they deserve, but if enough people care, their power can be broken through legal means.


All that need be done is provide other pathways for parents to use.


We are a home school family.

There is no tax break for those who don't use the government schools.


And there's this:

3-homeschooler-national-average-percentile-scores.jpg

Homeschool World - News - Some Fascinating Facts About Homeschool vs Public School

your idiot stats prove NOTHING about home-schooling other than parents who
engage in homeschooling ---- ----include those who CAN. I knew a homeschooler------she, herself, was a teacher who was, at that time---a stay at home mom. She was not a barely literate pizza delivery lady who worked 16 hours per day. "fascinating facts"?????
 
Government school....owned and operated by Liberalism, Inc.

While it is difficult to pinpoint when the deterioration began, there is no doubt that earlier generations learned far more than what government school produces today.

And, coincidentally, the decay can be plotted along the same lines as Liberal control. One significant date is in 1980 when Democrat incompetent….is that redundant?...Jimmy Carter instituted the unconstitutional creation of a federal education department.



“…all the evidence shows that government schools do a terrible job.”


1."…cast a cold look at the performance of schools… Consider the trends: Since 2005, SAT reading scores have dropped by 14 points. A writing component was added to the SAT in 2006, and scores have dropped every year since then except for two years when they were flat. Math scores for 2015 were the lowest in 20 years. …On the ACT’s measure of “college readiness” in math, English, reading, and science, slightly more than one-third of test takers met the benchmarks in three subjects, while another one-third did not meet any(!) of the benchmarks. …According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress exams (the “Nation’s Report Card,” administered by the Education Department’s National Center for Educational Statistics), only one-quarter of 12th-graders are proficient in civics, one-fifth in geography, just over one-third (37 percent) in reading, one-fifth (22 percent) in science, and one-eighth (12 percent) in US history. Only one-quarter of them reach proficiency in math. …At the same time, we have another discrepancy, outcomes versus public school funding. …Adjusted for inflation, the national average for per-pupil spending rose steadily…the cost-benefit numbers continue to look bleak."
The job of the education secretary isn’t to defend public schools. It’s to help kids learn.



2. “A Nation at Risk…revealed, in the words of Ronald Reagan, an education system plagued by “low standards, lack of purpose, ineffective use of resources, and a failure to challenge students to push performance to the boundaries of individual ability.” …Since then the nation has devoted a great deal of attention to getting education right. To little avail. …The results of the 2017 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)…, released this month, are dismal. Fewer than half of students are rated “proficient” in each of these subjects.” Test Score Statistics Are Stagnant, 35 Years after ‘A Nation at Risk’ | National Review




3. “The fundamental problem is that teacher unions are in bed with politicians.

This doesn’t just mean that government schools are needlessly expensive (and they are). It also means that the government monopoly primarily exists as a tool to serve bureaucracy rather than students.” The Continuing Deterioration Of K-12 Government Schooling



America will never be saved from the abyss if schools are not severed from the political bureaucracy, and citizens are provided with more options for schooling their children without indoctrination.
It's only "deterioration" if you use your criteria for what constitutes "education"...For those running the indoctrination mills, it's a great success.
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.




Not necessarily. The unions might decide to get ugly, in which case they would get what they deserve, but if enough people care, their power can be broken through legal means.


All that need be done is provide other pathways for parents to use.


We are a home school family.

There is no tax break for those who don't use the government schools.


And there's this:

3-homeschooler-national-average-percentile-scores.jpg

Homeschool World - News - Some Fascinating Facts About Homeschool vs Public School

your idiot stats prove NOTHING about home-schooling other than parents who
engage in homeschooling ---- ----include those who CAN. I knew a homeschooler------she, herself, was a teacher who was, at that time---a stay at home mom. She was not a barely literate pizza delivery lady who worked 16 hours per day. "fascinating facts"?????





A teacher who is barely literate? So she was a public school employee. Thanks for the support.
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.




Not necessarily. The unions might decide to get ugly, in which case they would get what they deserve, but if enough people care, their power can be broken through legal means.


All that need be done is provide other pathways for parents to use.


We are a home school family.

There is no tax break for those who don't use the government schools.


And there's this:

3-homeschooler-national-average-percentile-scores.jpg

Homeschool World - News - Some Fascinating Facts About Homeschool vs Public School

your idiot stats prove NOTHING about home-schooling other than parents who
engage in homeschooling ---- ----include those who CAN. I knew a homeschooler------she, herself, was a teacher who was, at that time---a stay at home mom. She was not a barely literate pizza delivery lady who worked 16 hours per day. "fascinating facts"?????



Your idiot post, the same.

All evidence proves that both home schooling is far more beneficial, and that government schooling is a failure....and an expensive one.



BTW.....the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.




Not necessarily. The unions might decide to get ugly, in which case they would get what they deserve, but if enough people care, their power can be broken through legal means.


All that need be done is provide other pathways for parents to use.


We are a home school family.

There is no tax break for those who don't use the government schools.


And there's this:

3-homeschooler-national-average-percentile-scores.jpg

Homeschool World - News - Some Fascinating Facts About Homeschool vs Public School

your idiot stats prove NOTHING about home-schooling other than parents who
engage in homeschooling ---- ----include those who CAN. I knew a homeschooler------she, herself, was a teacher who was, at that time---a stay at home mom. She was not a barely literate pizza delivery lady who worked 16 hours per day. "fascinating facts"?????





A teacher who is barely literate? So she was a public school employee. Thanks for the support.

no----she is very literate----even writes children's books------not sure if she got published-----her kids seem bright
 
Government school....owned and operated by Liberalism, Inc.

While it is difficult to pinpoint when the deterioration began, there is no doubt that earlier generations learned far more than what government school produces today.

And, coincidentally, the decay can be plotted along the same lines as Liberal control. One significant date is in 1980 when Democrat incompetent….is that redundant?...Jimmy Carter instituted the unconstitutional creation of a federal education department.



“…all the evidence shows that government schools do a terrible job.”


1."…cast a cold look at the performance of schools… Consider the trends: Since 2005, SAT reading scores have dropped by 14 points. A writing component was added to the SAT in 2006, and scores have dropped every year since then except for two years when they were flat. Math scores for 2015 were the lowest in 20 years. …On the ACT’s measure of “college readiness” in math, English, reading, and science, slightly more than one-third of test takers met the benchmarks in three subjects, while another one-third did not meet any(!) of the benchmarks. …According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress exams (the “Nation’s Report Card,” administered by the Education Department’s National Center for Educational Statistics), only one-quarter of 12th-graders are proficient in civics, one-fifth in geography, just over one-third (37 percent) in reading, one-fifth (22 percent) in science, and one-eighth (12 percent) in US history. Only one-quarter of them reach proficiency in math. …At the same time, we have another discrepancy, outcomes versus public school funding. …Adjusted for inflation, the national average for per-pupil spending rose steadily…the cost-benefit numbers continue to look bleak."
The job of the education secretary isn’t to defend public schools. It’s to help kids learn.



2. “A Nation at Risk…revealed, in the words of Ronald Reagan, an education system plagued by “low standards, lack of purpose, ineffective use of resources, and a failure to challenge students to push performance to the boundaries of individual ability.” …Since then the nation has devoted a great deal of attention to getting education right. To little avail. …The results of the 2017 National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)…, released this month, are dismal. Fewer than half of students are rated “proficient” in each of these subjects.” Test Score Statistics Are Stagnant, 35 Years after ‘A Nation at Risk’ | National Review




3. “The fundamental problem is that teacher unions are in bed with politicians.

This doesn’t just mean that government schools are needlessly expensive (and they are). It also means that the government monopoly primarily exists as a tool to serve bureaucracy rather than students.” The Continuing Deterioration Of K-12 Government Schooling



America will never be saved from the abyss if schools are not severed from the political bureaucracy, and citizens are provided with more options for schooling their children without indoctrination.
It's only "deterioration" if you use your criteria for what constitutes "education"...For those running the indoctrination mills, it's a great success.



Excellent point......this may be the Democrats/Progressives most successful endeavor.

We see the results on this board on a daily basis.
 
Wresting the school system from the enemy will require a certain amount of unsavory behavior.




Not necessarily. The unions might decide to get ugly, in which case they would get what they deserve, but if enough people care, their power can be broken through legal means.


All that need be done is provide other pathways for parents to use.


We are a home school family.

There is no tax break for those who don't use the government schools.


And there's this:

3-homeschooler-national-average-percentile-scores.jpg

Homeschool World - News - Some Fascinating Facts About Homeschool vs Public School

your idiot stats prove NOTHING about home-schooling other than parents who
engage in homeschooling ---- ----include those who CAN. I knew a homeschooler------she, herself, was a teacher who was, at that time---a stay at home mom. She was not a barely literate pizza delivery lady who worked 16 hours per day. "fascinating facts"?????



Your idiot post, the same.

All evidence proves that both home schooling is far more beneficial, and that government schooling is a failure....and an expensive one.



BTW.....the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'

the idiot bar graph you cite is not a study------it IS, however,
data which has not been subjected to reasonable analysis
 

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