Kilroy2
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We also no Trump is not a scientest. So why belief him because he says so
Trump is not a source for anything scientific.
The "climate studies" that support "President Trump's position" on climate change
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Trump is not a source for anything scientific.
EMH
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BULL, atmospheric DATA posted for you, linked from NBC no less, you just don't like it...
The DATA on canes showing 1940s strongest decade, 1890s second place...
DATA from MARS PROVING that when a planet with an atmosphere warms, its SURFACE AIR PRESSURE increases...
Air Pressure is always correlated with temperature, and Mars proves it. When you add in polar ice/CO2 melt/sublime, the effect is to "turbocharge" the move in SAP.
From Google...
During the Jurassic period, the Earth's atmospheric pressure is estimated to have been higher than today, potentially between 3.7 and 5.0 bar, according to scientific articles
MINOR PROBLEM FOR CO2 FRAUD, for past 70 years Earth Surface Air Pressure is actually slightly down...
WHICH 100% PROVES THE FOLLOWING, for the past 70 years
1. Earth has not warmed at all
2. Earth has experienced precisely ZERO net ice melt
EMH
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correct
What Donald Trump discovered in 2017 is that the FBI has had a prosecution of CO2 FRAUD that dates back to 2007, and that
Mukasey
Holder
Lynch
Sessions
Barr
Garland
all refused to prosecute it, instead covered it up.
Then you ask, OK, since Trump just knows there is a DOJ case, and isn't a scientist, who should I debate who would represent the "Trump side" of the climate debate....
here is the answer...
ME...
Kilroy2
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Do you have a source or just winging it.We also no Trump is not a scientest. So why belief him because he says so
Trump is not a source for anything
correct
What Donald Trump discovered in 2017 is that the FBI has had a prosecution of CO2 FRAUD that dates back to 2007, and that
Mukasey
Holder
Lynch
Sessions
Barr
Garland
all refused to prosecute it, instead covered it up.
Then you ask, OK, since Trump just knows there is a DOJ case, and isn't a scientist, who should I debate who would represent the "Trump side" of the climate debate....
here is the answer...
ME...
The Intercept is an American left-wing nonprofit news organization that publishes articles and podcasts onlinecorrect
What Donald Trump discovered in 2017 is that the FBI has had a prosecution of CO2 FRAUD that dates back to 2007, and that
Mukasey
Holder
Lynch
Sessions
Barr
Garland
all refused to prosecute it, instead covered it up.
Then you ask, OK, since Trump just knows there is a DOJ case, and isn't a scientist, who should I debate who would represent the "Trump side" of the climate debate....
here is the answer...
ME...
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EMH
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The DOJ doesn't come out and say
"well we could have prosecuted CO2 FRAUD but we decided to be treasonous co-conspirators and help CO2 FRAUD bilk $20 trillion from the American taxpayer"
But this really doesn't need any further explanation to anyone with an IQ over 5...
Timeline...
homO runs for Senate and Prez, and "Global Warming" is the #1 threat to humanity.
Then from 2010 to 2012, homO goes completely silent on the issue.
Then in 2012, with the case hidden in the closet, once again homO says "greatest threat"
....
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and then buys beachfront property on an island last hit by Cat 5 wind gusts in 1938.... the last time a Cat 5 got that far north...
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Meanwhile, the global consensus of climatologists is being further validated by the reality.
Willful ignorance is a luxury many can't afford.
As climate change accelerates, its impacts are being felt most acutely by those who have contributed the least to the problem: the world’s poorest and most marginalized people. A recent report by the United Nations Convention to Combat Desertification shows that droughts are on the rise, already having widespread, global impact—with women and children amongst the most affected.
The effects of this can be seen quite clearly in Kenya, which has recently experienced its worst drought in 40 years. Five consecutive failed rainy seasons have created a need for food assistance to support 4.5 million people (about twice the population of New Mexico), and resulted in the death of 2.4 million livestock, devastating income earning potential.
As climate change accelerates, its impacts are being felt most acutely by those who have contributed the least to the problem: the world’s poorest and most marginalized people. A recent report by the United Nations Convention to Combat Desertification shows that droughts are on the rise, already having widespread, global impact—with women and children amongst the most affected.
The effects of this can be seen quite clearly in Kenya, which has recently experienced its worst drought in 40 years. Five consecutive failed rainy seasons have created a need for food assistance to support 4.5 million people (about twice the population of New Mexico), and resulted in the death of 2.4 million livestock, devastating income earning potential...
Why Climate Solutions Are Failing The People Who Need Them Most—And How We Can Change That
As climate change accelerates, its impacts are being felt most acutely by those who have contributed the least to the problem: the world’s poorest and most marginalized people
www.forbes.com
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Why listen to you given you are not a climate scientist?
Sunsettommy
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Okay posters on the USMB procaim their belief without any evidence and others are suppose to believe because they said so?
They probably still believe that the Earth is flat because someone says so
We know the world is warming because people have been recording daily high and low temperatures at thousands of weather stations worldwide, over land and ocean, for many decades and, in some locations, for more than a century. When different teams of climate scientists in different agencies (e.g., NOAA and NASA) and in other countries (e.g., the U.K.’s Hadley Centre) average these data together, they all find essentially the same result: Earth’s average surface temperature has risen by about 1.8°F (1.0°C) since 1880.
Scientist who study climate change disagree
The earth is warming. which does make sense
Why because years ago they had horse and buggies. They also did a lot of walking and sailing using the wind.
Today they got cars, trains, plane and nuclear weapons.
So who your going to believe?
What evidence exists that Earth is warming and that humans are the main cause?
There is overwhelming scientific evidence that Earth is warming and a preponderance of scientific evidence that human activities are the main cause.www.climate.gov
Stawman since no one here is disputing a warming trend, it is what is the CAUSE of the warming that is disputed and your source is written as propaganda format a dead giveaway.
You also lie about lack of proof as that has been posted many times that gets dismissed without a rebuttal thus not properly addressed.
This is why YOU and others of your ilk never gain traction when you people employ a barrage of fallacies, and lies about the subject.
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We know YOU are not a scientist so why should I believe you.
LOLOLOLOLOL, see how I blew up your retort you made about Trump.....
You live on propaganda and fallacies it is why you are continuing to be ignorant.
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Scmidlap posted excepts of lies since the OFFICIAL data shows the very opposite:
Droughts in the US have been decreasing, not increasing.
And here is the latest study from Nature Magazine showing, guess what? Globally, droughts are decreasing, not increasing.
Nor are the extremes in the amount of moisture (droughts, floods) increasing in the US.
And the same is true in Europe. No increase or decrease in droughts in 150 years
Source: Vincente-Serrano et al., 2020
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Then this report shows an increase of greening all over the world which would be impossible if there was increasing droughts all over the place, from NASA
From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.
An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.
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WHERE is the climate changing?
Droughts in the US have been decreasing, not increasing.
And here is the latest study from Nature Magazine showing, guess what? Globally, droughts are decreasing, not increasing.
Nor are the extremes in the amount of moisture (droughts, floods) increasing in the US.
And the same is true in Europe. No increase or decrease in droughts in 150 years
Source: Vincente-Serrano et al., 2020
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Then this report shows an increase of greening all over the world which would be impossible if there was increasing droughts all over the place, from NASA
Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds
Karl B. Hille
Apr 26, 2016From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.
An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.
LINK
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WHERE is the climate changing?
Old Rocks
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LOL Gotta love the dumb ***** here that totally ignore all science. Our pouring of billions of tons of GHG's into the atmosphere is having a measurable effect on climate, temperature, and extreme weather events. But those kissing the orange ass cannot bring themselves to admit their cult leader is a demented senile fat old fool.
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And when you add GHG's to the atmosphere at the rate we have in the midst of an interglacial, that ice really melts fast.Let’s put this in its proper context.
For the past 3 million years the climate of the planet has been dominated by the northern hemisphere.
When the northern hemisphere glaciates, the oceans and atmosphere cool. When the northern hemisphere deglaciates - like it is doing today - the oceans and atmosphere warm.
Snapshots of mean ocean temperature over the last 700 000 years using noble gases in the EPICA Dome C ice core
The reason for this is that the north pole has a lower temperature threshold for glaciation than the south pole because the south pole has a continent parked over it while the north pole is thermally isolated from warm marine currents by surrounding lands.
You can see with your own eyes the different temperature threshold for glaciation for the poles in the oxygen isotope curve which is the temperature record for the planet.
So for the past 15 million years or so, the south pole has had a continuous ice cap. And for the past 3 million years the north pole has oscillated between having an ice cap and not having an ice cap.
The reason why the northern hemisphere effects global temperatures is because there are surrounding lands where glaciation can spread. Whereas the land sitting over the south pole is surrounded by ocean so glaciation cannot spread like it does in the north. So southern hemisphere glaciation is moderated by the ocean whereas northern hemisphere glaciation isn't.
So why has the northern hemisphere cycled between glaciating and deglaciating? Thermohaline circulation. When heat transport from the Atlantic to the Arctic gets disrupted, the northern hemisphere glaciates. And when heat is transported from the Atlantic to the Arctic - like it is doing today - the northern hemisphere deglaciates.
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How many warnings from climate fearing people have not materialized?... answer... every single one of them....
Old Rocks
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Well, posting the conclusions of real climatologists and geologists on this post is just throwing gold in front of pigs. The MAGAts here cannot and do not want to understand science, and avoid any kind of acquaintance with evidence.
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Chicken little....
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