RoccoR
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P F Tinmore, et al,
Part of what you say is correct; but not quite taking into account the ramification of what you say
The original boundary as set up by the recommendation was not a Non-Self-Governing-Entity. WHY? Because the Provisional Government was established.
THEN, as the Arab League Forces moved across their respective frontiers, the status of that territory changed.
• The territory for which the Israeli Forces pursued the retreating Arab League Forces was the new sovereign territory for Israel.
• The territory for which the Jordanian Arab Legion capture was a predeclared annexation (to occur in the future as planned).
• The territory for which the Egyptian 3d Army captured (the Gaza Strip) was camouflaged as the All Arab Government (APG), but was actually a Military Governorship.
Actually, the UN and the membership of governments, owed absolutely no "duty" to the Arab Palestinians and had no obligations to fulfill. They did not "still sits around with its thumb up its ass." That duty evaporated away as the Arab Palestinians declined to participate in the tutelage --- and administrative participation, and the Steps Preparatory to Independence. They just sat around an pouted - and refused to work for a better country.
Once again, we cover the same ground. The Israeli Security Barrier (The Wall) is a demarcation line with a single party enforcement. It denotes the frontier in which a physical and recognized change in political authority and geographical areas occurs. The Armistice Agreement are no longer valid. The two respective treaties apply with each having an Article on the issue of International Boundaries. However, the Israel Security Barrier was, in 1995, a clear frontier on which one side is enforced (Israeli) sovereignty and the other side is a political composite (Areas "A", "B" and "C").
You may refuse to recognize it; but, it is an enforced frontier. This frontier, being a demarcation, is covered under the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.
Every State likewise has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate international lines of demarcation, such as armistice lines, established by or pursuant to an international agreement to which it is a party or which it is otherwise bound to respect. Nothing in the foregoing shall be construed as prejudicing the positions of the parties concerned with regard to the status and effects of such lines under their special regimes or as affecting their temporary character.
One might consider the Security Barrier a type of contemporary Marché (called a "territorial entity" today) or a demarcation line (a border between realms). In the French speaking areas like France, Belgium, a sector of Switzerland, Luxemburg and a small peace of Germany, there is a chain of stores, much like Sears, called the Le Bon Marché. In the typical European fashion of thinking about the concept, the Marché is the two sides (buyer and seller) or (good deal and not so good).
Most Respectfully,
R
Part of what you say is correct; but not quite taking into account the ramification of what you say
(COMMENT)Britain itself called Palestine a non self governing "legal entity" when its governance was passed to the UNPC.1b: Their is no application of colonialism in the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt). There is no true Non-self Governing Territory (NSGT) any where in the Middle East. See the UN Committee of 24 (Special Committee on Decolonization) Listing: Non-Self-Governing Territories
Of course the UN dropped the ball and failed to protect the people and territory under its trust. And it still sits around with its thumb up its ass.
The original boundary as set up by the recommendation was not a Non-Self-Governing-Entity. WHY? Because the Provisional Government was established.
THEN, as the Arab League Forces moved across their respective frontiers, the status of that territory changed.
• The territory for which the Israeli Forces pursued the retreating Arab League Forces was the new sovereign territory for Israel.
• The territory for which the Jordanian Arab Legion capture was a predeclared annexation (to occur in the future as planned).
• The territory for which the Egyptian 3d Army captured (the Gaza Strip) was camouflaged as the All Arab Government (APG), but was actually a Military Governorship.
Actually, the UN and the membership of governments, owed absolutely no "duty" to the Arab Palestinians and had no obligations to fulfill. They did not "still sits around with its thumb up its ass." That duty evaporated away as the Arab Palestinians declined to participate in the tutelage --- and administrative participation, and the Steps Preparatory to Independence. They just sat around an pouted - and refused to work for a better country.
(COMMENT)The wall is not on a border.1a: Dismantling the Security Barrier/Wall presupposes that either every other country in the world have no right to control its borders and protect its citizens and territory;
Once again, we cover the same ground. The Israeli Security Barrier (The Wall) is a demarcation line with a single party enforcement. It denotes the frontier in which a physical and recognized change in political authority and geographical areas occurs. The Armistice Agreement are no longer valid. The two respective treaties apply with each having an Article on the issue of International Boundaries. However, the Israel Security Barrier was, in 1995, a clear frontier on which one side is enforced (Israeli) sovereignty and the other side is a political composite (Areas "A", "B" and "C").
You may refuse to recognize it; but, it is an enforced frontier. This frontier, being a demarcation, is covered under the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States.
Every State likewise has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate international lines of demarcation, such as armistice lines, established by or pursuant to an international agreement to which it is a party or which it is otherwise bound to respect. Nothing in the foregoing shall be construed as prejudicing the positions of the parties concerned with regard to the status and effects of such lines under their special regimes or as affecting their temporary character.
One might consider the Security Barrier a type of contemporary Marché (called a "territorial entity" today) or a demarcation line (a border between realms). In the French speaking areas like France, Belgium, a sector of Switzerland, Luxemburg and a small peace of Germany, there is a chain of stores, much like Sears, called the Le Bon Marché. In the typical European fashion of thinking about the concept, the Marché is the two sides (buyer and seller) or (good deal and not so good).
Most Respectfully,
R