The catastrophic failure of progressive policy

[gipper]

After studying hundreds of years of history, conservatives have the solutions down to a science - while progressives continue to toil in catastrophic failure as they ignore reality in favor of ideology.

As Ronald Reagan stated - "weakness invites aggression". When Bill Clinton refused to deal with Al Qaeda and pulled out of Somalia at the first sign of a fight (like a coward), he convinced the world that America was cowardly. That emboldened the world. That coupled with failing to deal with Al Qaeda gave them the time and motivation to plan and execute 9/11. The mastermind of the attack - Khalid Sheik Mohammed - admitted that they were stunned by the response by the Bush Administration and that the Bush strategy prevented more attacks.

“Then he looked at me and said, ‘How was I supposed to know that cowboy George Bush would announce he wanted us ‘dead or alive’ and then invade Afghanistan to hunt us down?’” Mitchell writes.

“KSM explained that if the United States had treated 9/11 like a law enforcement matter, he would have had time to launch a second wave of attacks.” He was not able to do so because al-Qaeda was stunned “by the ferocity and swiftness of George W. Bush’s response.”

Had Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush been in office instead of Bill Clinton, 9/11 never happens. Weakness invites aggression. And the progressive idealistic weakness has invited unspeakable horrors against the U.S. It was done once again by Barack Obama - by making heavy cuts to our U.S. military (sending a signal to enemies) and by sending billions in ransom money to Iran.

A horrifying look into the mind of 9/11’s mastermind, in his own words

You're swingin' after the bell...

Keep your powder dry until after January 20th... yer gonna need it...

George w bush allowed 9/11 through sheer incompetence. The terrorism czar could not get in to see him. Republicans are incompetent ideologues. Every time Clinton tried to do something the Republicans were all over him for the tail wagging the dog garbage propaganda as usual and endless phony scandals. A disgrace the GOP is.

Ummmmm, that was Bill Clinton you incompetent goat. He had the opportunity to get bin laden long before 9/11 happened and he refused.

Clark was the name of the terror czar and he says George w Bush was an idiot. Just like Trump is with the pandemic or Ronald Reagan was with taxes.... The country is a wreck -great job. And we had the worst inequality and upward mobility before the pandemic. Just a huge giveaway to the rich from the GOP and screwjob for people like us. Only Rupert Murdoch agrees with you in the whole world period Fox is not recognized as news anywhere in the world and is not allowed anywhere but the United States. You might get a clue someday.

You are just like dumb westwall, but from the D side.

The D Party has done just as much if not more to cause greater income inequality. Income inequality is a bipartisan effort. Thinking otherwise is just partisan stupidity.

 

[francoHFW]

I loved that movie Michael Moore did where he offers French school children food American school children usually eat. The French kids reaction to that shitty American food was priceless. Every school in France has a professional chef who puts out healthy fresh food every day for the kids. How great is that?

Moore exposes the idiocy of the US government throughout that movie.

Michael Moore?

Of course, typical dumb R response. Just mentioning his name is a dog whistle.

If only Rs and Ds could open their minds.

To what exactly? You ramble more than a loose muffler clamp...

To the topic at hand. Did you forget already and do a Biden?

I already know progressive policies are deadly....But interesting you are supporting them...

Like healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations and mainly taxing the bloated rich? You are out of your brainwashed little mind.

Taxing the rich...What a joke...He is proposing a $100 Trillion agenda....You can't tax enough to get that....

 

[gipper]

I loved that movie Michael Moore did where he offers French school children food American school children usually eat.and you have evidence against the Republicans tons of it. But not against the Democrats period innocent until proven guilty and no there aren't any conspiracies. The French kids reaction to that shitty American food was priceless. Every school in France has a professional chef who puts out healthy fresh food every day for the kids. How great is that?

Great. If you’re an asshole statist. Which you clearly are. “Libertarian” my ass.

I’m about 90% certain right now that you’re a burner account for rightwinger. He did the same damn thing. Thought he could trick ( ) people into embracing the failed left-wing ideology if people believed he was “right-wing”. You’re trying the same ignorant leftist tactic.

Yeah we can’t have those government schools providing good healthy food to American children. It’s fucking in-American!!!!

Thinks the dumb con.

Our schools serve crap food compared to most countries. Last I heard it was the DEMOCRAT controlled education system that provides those meals. You sure don't think very clearly, or deeply, or logically. Do you....

Dumb ass. I’m not just criticizing your beloved Rs. I’m doing the same to Ds, you old dumb war horse.

Plenty of evidence against Republicans not against Democrats all these problems are caused by lack of tax revenue to invest in our country since Reagan left us with 28% top rate period end of story. Pure obstruction for 52 years now. Except for 35 days for Obamacare....

Okay. Why then did Bubba and Ears not do something about it? They didn’t because they are just as bad as the Rs. In fact, they made matters worse. Bubba passed NAFTA. Ears made W’s tax cuts permanent.

 

[francoHFW]

After studying hundreds of years of history, conservatives have the solutions down to a science - while progressives continue to toil in catastrophic failure as they ignore reality in favor of ideology.

As Ronald Reagan stated - "weakness invites aggression". When Bill Clinton refused to deal with Al Qaeda and pulled out of Somalia at the first sign of a fight (like a coward), he convinced the world that America was cowardly. That emboldened the world. That coupled with failing to deal with Al Qaeda gave them the time and motivation to plan and execute 9/11. The mastermind of the attack - Khalid Sheik Mohammed - admitted that they were stunned by the response by the Bush Administration and that the Bush strategy prevented more attacks.

“Then he looked at me and said, ‘How was I supposed to know that cowboy George Bush would announce he wanted us ‘dead or alive’ and then invade Afghanistan to hunt us down?’” Mitchell writes.

“KSM explained that if the United States had treated 9/11 like a law enforcement matter, he would have had time to launch a second wave of attacks.” He was not able to do so because al-Qaeda was stunned “by the ferocity and swiftness of George W. Bush’s response.”

Had Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush been in office instead of Bill Clinton, 9/11 never happens. Weakness invites aggression. And the progressive idealistic weakness has invited unspeakable horrors against the U.S. It was done once again by Barack Obama - by making heavy cuts to our U.S. military (sending a signal to enemies) and by sending billions in ransom money to Iran.

A horrifying look into the mind of 9/11’s mastermind, in his own words

You're swingin' after the bell...

Keep your powder dry until after January 20th... yer gonna need it...

George w bush allowed 9/11 through sheer incompetence. The terrorism czar could not get in to see him. Republicans are incompetent ideologues. Every time Clinton tried to do something the Republicans were all over him for the tail wagging the dog garbage propaganda as usual and endless phony scandals. A disgrace the GOP is.

Ummmmm, that was Bill Clinton you incompetent goat. He had the opportunity to get bin laden long before 9/11 happened and he refused.

Clark was the name of the terror czar and he says George w Bush was an idiot. Just like Trump is with the pandemic or Ronald Reagan was with taxes.... The country is a wreck -great job. And we had the worst inequality and upward mobility before the pandemic. Just a huge giveaway to the rich from the GOP and screwjob for people like us. Only Rupert Murdoch agrees with you in the whole world period Fox is not recognized as news anywhere in the world and is not allowed anywhere but the United States. You might get a clue someday.

You are just like dumb westwall, but from the D side.

The D Party has done just as much if not more to cause greater income inequality. Income inequality is a bipartisan effort. Thinking otherwise is just partisan stupidity.

I have a masters in history and I have a clue . The only legislation that has passed in the last 50 years have been reconciliation tax cuts by the GOP and screw jobs for regular people, cutting programs in other words. Those are allowed by the 1974 Nixon for crying out loud reconciliation law. Quite a scam period meanwhile the Democrats need 60 votes to pass any reform and have only had 35 days in session in the middle of a GOP corrupt economic meltdown as usual in 2009 for Obamacare. you have all this evidence against Republicans and your only evidence against Democrats is crap GOP propaganda. Wake up. stop babbling about Democrats unless you have something with evidence behind it for once. The GOP is the problem and the swamp. Check out Fox noise for Christ's sake.... Do you need a diagram?

 

[francoHFW]

I loved that movie Michael Moore did where he offers French school children food American school children usually eat.and you have evidence against the Republicans tons of it. But not against the Democrats period innocent until proven guilty and no there aren't any conspiracies. The French kids reaction to that shitty American food was priceless. Every school in France has a professional chef who puts out healthy fresh food every day for the kids. How great is that?

Great. If you’re an asshole statist. Which you clearly are. “Libertarian” my ass.

I’m about 90% certain right now that you’re a burner account for rightwinger. He did the same damn thing. Thought he could trick ( ) people into embracing the failed left-wing ideology if people believed he was “right-wing”. You’re trying the same ignorant leftist tactic.

Yeah we can’t have those government schools providing good healthy food to American children. It’s fucking in-American!!!!

Thinks the dumb con.

Our schools serve crap food compared to most countries. Last I heard it was the DEMOCRAT controlled education system that provides those meals. You sure don't think very clearly, or deeply, or logically. Do you....

Dumb ass. I’m not just criticizing your beloved Rs. I’m doing the same to Ds, you old dumb war horse.

Plenty of evidence against Republicans not against Democrats all these problems are caused by lack of tax revenue to invest in our country since Reagan left us with 28% top rate period end of story. Pure obstruction for 52 years now. Except for 35 days for Obamacare....

Okay. Why then did Bubba and Ears not do something about it? They didn’t because they are just as bad as the Rs. In fact, they made matters worse. Bubba passed NAFTA. Ears made W’s tax cuts permanent.

I just explained that reconciliation 51 votes reform 60 votes unless you want to go nuclear which I advise after fifty years of paralysis

 

[francoHFW]

I loved that movie Michael Moore did where he offers French school children food American school children usually eat.and you have evidence against the Republicans tons of it. But not against the Democrats period innocent until proven guilty and no there aren't any conspiracies. The French kids reaction to that shitty American food was priceless. Every school in France has a professional chef who puts out healthy fresh food every day for the kids. How great is that?

Great. If you’re an asshole statist. Which you clearly are. “Libertarian” my ass.

I’m about 90% certain right now that you’re a burner account for rightwinger. He did the same damn thing. Thought he could trick ( ) people into embracing the failed left-wing ideology if people believed he was “right-wing”. You’re trying the same ignorant leftist tactic.

Yeah we can’t have those government schools providing good healthy food to American children. It’s fucking in-American!!!!

Thinks the dumb con.

Our schools serve crap food compared to most countries. Last I heard it was the DEMOCRAT controlled education system that provides those meals. You sure don't think very clearly, or deeply, or logically. Do you....

Dumb ass. I’m not just criticizing your beloved Rs. I’m doing the same to Ds, you old dumb war horse.

Plenty of evidence against Republicans not against Democrats all these problems are caused by lack of tax revenue to invest in our country since Reagan left us with 28% top rate period end of story. Pure obstruction for 52 years now. Except for 35 days for Obamacare....

Okay. Why then did Bubba and Ears not do something about it? They didn’t because they are just as bad as the Rs. In fact, they made matters worse. Bubba passed NAFTA. Ears made W’s tax cuts permanent.

Democrats try and work with the assholes. In both cases you mentioned they got tax hikes on the rich in return. Pathetic as it was. From now on they should vote nuclear and pass living wage cut student loans, cheap college and university so people remember what they stand for for crying out loud period then the GOP can repeal them if they dare. This is ridiculous

 

[francoHFW]

I loved that movie Michael Moore did where he offers French school children food American school children usually eat.and you have evidence against the Republicans tons of it. But not against the Democrats period innocent until proven guilty and no there aren't any conspiracies. The French kids reaction to that shitty American food was priceless. Every school in France has a professional chef who puts out healthy fresh food every day for the kids. How great is that?

Great. If you’re an asshole statist. Which you clearly are. “Libertarian” my ass.

I’m about 90% certain right now that you’re a burner account for rightwinger. He did the same damn thing. Thought he could trick ( ) people into embracing the failed left-wing ideology if people believed he was “right-wing”. You’re trying the same ignorant leftist tactic.

Yeah we can’t have those government schools providing good healthy food to American children. It’s fucking in-American!!!!

Thinks the dumb con.

Our schools serve crap food compared to most countries. Last I heard it was the DEMOCRAT controlled education system that provides those meals. You sure don't think very clearly, or deeply, or logically. Do you....

Dumb ass. I’m not just criticizing your beloved Rs. I’m doing the same to Ds, you old dumb war horse.

Plenty of evidence against Republicans not against Democrats all these problems are caused by lack of tax revenue to invest in our country since Reagan left us with 28% top rate period end of story. Pure obstruction for 52 years now. Except for 35 days for Obamacare....

Okay. Why then did Bubba and Ears not do something about it? They didn’t because they are just as bad as the Rs. In fact, they made matters worse. Bubba passed NAFTA. Ears made W’s tax cuts permanent.

Democrats try and work with the assholes. In both cases you mentioned they got tax hikes on the rich in return. Pathetic as it was. From now on they should vote nuclear and pass living wage cut student loans, cheap college and university so people remember what they stand for for crying out loud period then the GOP can repeal them if they dare. This is ridiculous

Or maybe Joe can actually get them to move. This is ridiculous. Only an imaginary propaganda planet makes it possible period And I mean GOP propaganda not journalists. And I'm not saying CNN is wonderful we need news on cable news instead of pundits arguing and giving ridiculous GOP propaganda a base to be heard. Thank God we got rid of the orange clown at least.

 

[gipper]

I loved that movie Michael Moore did where he offers French school children food American school children usually eat.and you have evidence against the Republicans tons of it. But not against the Democrats period innocent until proven guilty and no there aren't any conspiracies. The French kids reaction to that shitty American food was priceless. Every school in France has a professional chef who puts out healthy fresh food every day for the kids. How great is that?

Great. If you’re an asshole statist. Which you clearly are. “Libertarian” my ass.

I’m about 90% certain right now that you’re a burner account for rightwinger. He did the same damn thing. Thought he could trick ( ) people into embracing the failed left-wing ideology if people believed he was “right-wing”. You’re trying the same ignorant leftist tactic.

Yeah we can’t have those government schools providing good healthy food to American children. It’s fucking in-American!!!!

Thinks the dumb con.

Our schools serve crap food compared to most countries. Last I heard it was the DEMOCRAT controlled education system that provides those meals. You sure don't think very clearly, or deeply, or logically. Do you....

Dumb ass. I’m not just criticizing your beloved Rs. I’m doing the same to Ds, you old dumb war horse.

Plenty of evidence against Republicans not against Democrats all these problems are caused by lack of tax revenue to invest in our country since Reagan left us with 28% top rate period end of story. Pure obstruction for 52 years now. Except for 35 days for Obamacare....

Okay. Why then did Bubba and Ears not do something about it? They didn’t because they are just as bad as the Rs. In fact, they made matters worse. Bubba passed NAFTA. Ears made W’s tax cuts permanent.

Democrats try and work with the assholes. In both cases you mentioned they got tax hikes on the rich in return. Pathetic as it was. From now on they should vote nuclear and pass living wage cut student loans, cheap college and university so people remember what they stand for for crying out loud period then the GOP can repeal them if they dare. This is ridiculous

You’re dreaming. The D Party is the party of the billionaires and transnational capitalists. They control the party. One would think this would be evident to you, after what Ears, Hillary, and the D Party establishment did to Bernie.

 

[westwall]

As Ronald Reagan stated - "weakness invites aggression".

The corollary is that strength also invites aggression.

Wrong. Wolves don't hunt wolves. They hunt sheep.

To be more clear, I meant that if you are strong you are more likely to see aggression as a suitable option. Dubya saw a weak Iraq and seized his opportunity. We're still paying that piper.

And yet Trump has rebuilt our military and is bringing our troops home. Obummer sent our troops everywhere while simultaneously weakening them.

Maybe it's the person, and not the military force available.

 

[P@triot]

Yeah we can’t have those government schools providing good healthy food to American children.

Exactly, left-wing dill-hole. We can’t. That’s not the job of schools and that’s not the job of government.

 

[P@triot]

You’re dreaming. The D Party is the party of the billionaires and transnational capitalists. They control the party. One would think this would be evident to you, after what Ears, Hillary, and the D Party establishment did to Bernie.

For a “right-wing” extremist, someone sure sounds upset that far left socialist Bernie didn’t win

 

[P@triot]

To be more clear, I meant that if you are strong you are more likely to see aggression as a suitable option.

To be more clear, that’s not even remotely

Dubya saw a weak Iraq and seized his opportunity.

Congrats on the dumbest comment of the week on USMB.

If “Dubya” was looking to cash in on “weakness” he would have gone into Ethiopia, or Mogadishu, or Mozambique. All of them combined didn’t have 1/10th the army that Iraq had. None of them had tanks, bombs, or chemical weapons.

What “Dubya” actually saw, was a vicious tyrant who destabilized the Middle East and inflicted unimaginable human rights abuses on the masses.

 

[P@triot]

...all these problems are caused by lack of tax revenue to invest in our country

Bwahahaha! Tell me something, welfare queen, what is stopping you from “investing”? Take your money, give it all to the government, and ask them to “invest”.

What’s the problem? Too greedy? Too selfish?

 

[P@triot]

I have a masters in history...

Too bad you don’t have a “masters” in basic economics.

 

[P@triot]

The D Party has done just as much if not more to cause greater income inequality.

...stop babbling about Democrats unless you have something with evidence behind it for once.

I have “evidence”, snowflake. Straight from your messiah, Barack Obama himself (via hard-left CNN):

Obama admits 95% of income gains gone to top 1%

President Obama agrees with recent study that found the economic recovery since the financial crisis has overwhelming favored the richest Americans, with 95% of the income gains from 2009 to 20012 going to the top 1% of the earning population

money.cnn.com

 

[westwall]

I have a masters in history...

Too bad you don’t have a “masters” in basic economics.

Yeah, a Masters in what history. The history of underwater basket weaving....

 

[gipper]

Yeah we can’t have those government schools providing good healthy food to American children.

Exactly, left-wing dill-hole. We can’t. That’s not the job of schools and that’s not the job of government.

Works really well in France. Maybe we should do ghetto same.

 

[gipper]

Yeah we can’t have those government schools providing good healthy food to American children.

Exactly, left-wing dill-hole. We can’t. That’s not the job of schools and that’s not the job of government.

And besides doofus, it’s not 1789. In your little deluded world, government does only what’s outlined in the constitution. Sorry to inform my little bitch, but that only exists in your wet dreams.

Government today does a million things every day, not outlined in the constitution. Of course most of what it does is to benefit the extreme wealthy, but we know your crazed ideology prevents you from recognizing this.

So my son, why shouldn’t government do things that benefits the people?

 

[alang1216]

Dubya saw a weak Iraq and seized his opportunity.

Congrats on the dumbest comment of the week on USMB.

If “Dubya” was looking to cash in on “weakness” he would have gone into Ethiopia, or Mogadishu, or Mozambique. All of them combined didn’t have 1/10th the army that Iraq had. None of them had tanks, bombs, or chemical weapons.

What “Dubya” actually saw, was a vicious tyrant who destabilized the Middle East and inflicted unimaginable human rights abuses on the masses.

Thanks.

Iraq had been whipped by his daddy and was under sanctions and no-fly rules. The northern 1/2 of the country was in rebellion. I don't recall the Iraqi military put up much of a fight.

What Dubya didn't see was a ruler who kept a lid on his Shiite population and kept a lid on Iranian influence. He also didn't foresee the rise of Iran and the chaos we still see today. How many thousands of Iraqis died during and since Dubya's NEOCON war? That is the basic human right we abused.

 

[francoHFW]

Economics

I have a masters in history...

Too bad you don’t have a “masters” in basic economics.

Economics is the dismal science. Too bad you live out an imaginary planet of total b*******.... Quote the whole thing so people can see what an idiot you are.....