The big question about life on other planets: 1000000000000000000000 planets in the universe

[james bond]

Fermi's Paradox is amusing but hardly convincing to ET's devotees, such as Drake himself, who assures all that his big number multiplication will some day be verified, if you just give more money to SETI.

Fermi's Paradox is right. It's back of the envelope calculations, but they should have found us or we found them during Fermi's time. Instead, the atheist scientists found the fine tuning parameters when trying to explain the Big Bang. It works against evolution, so they have hidden it and only the creation scientists talk about it.

As for money, it's a total waste. Stephen Hawking and Russian billionaire Yuri Milner who put up $100 million have been searching for almost five years now. Hawking is dead. Sagan is dead. All of the scientists who believed in finding aliens are dead. Milner will give up in 2025 as it will be a waste of money as SETI has been doing it for sixty five years now with absolutely no sign of aliens. Seventy years of looking means no aliens.

What is more interesting is whether we can live on another planet. This may not be possible as Earth looks to be the most habitable planet and there are no other.

 

[the other mike]

Watch Brian Green blow Joe's mind in less than 15 minutes.

About big bangs....

 

[james bond]

Watch Brian Green blow Joe's mind in less than 15 minutes.

About big bangs....

Human opinion or assertions. How could he know? He wasn't there. Like most evolutionary thinkers, he's already assuming the big bang, so he already has been given the big part. You got tricked again, Angelo.

Furthermore, there was a beginning to the void of no space and time.

 

[Flash]

Fermi's Paradox is amusing but hardly convincing to ET's devotees, such as Drake himself, who assures all that his big number multiplication will some day be verified, if you just give more money to SETI.

Fermi's Paradox is right. It's back of the envelope calculations, but they should have found us or we found them during Fermi's time. Instead, the atheist scientists found the fine tuning parameters when trying to explain the Big Bang. It works against evolution, so they have hidden it and only the creation scientists talk about it.

As for money, it's a total waste. Stephen Hawking and Russian billionaire Yuri Milner who put up $100 million have been searching for almost five years now. Hawking is dead. Sagan is dead. All of the scientists who believed in finding aliens are dead. Milner will give up in 2025 as it will be a waste of money as SETI has been doing it for sixty five years now with absolutely no sign of aliens. Seventy years of looking means no aliens.

What is more interesting is whether we can live on another planet. This may not be possible as Earth looks to be the most habitable planet and there are no other.

Good post.

If there is a finite universe there will be unique things.

It may be that life on earth is unique to the universe.

As far as humans finding life elsewhere. If we get to Mars and find evidence of primordial microbial life that will probably be as good as it gets.

Unless there is some technological breakthrough that we haven't discovered yet we are never leaving this solar system. The universe is too big, humans are so small and the distances too great.

Even if we could travel the speed of light we are talking years, decades and centuries to just travel around our immediate galactic neighborhood.

Humans are technologically advancing now but it won't last forever. There will probably be some event in the future that will set humans back considerably, possibly even making us go extinct like thousands of other species.

Ten thousands year from now there will be no star trekking across the universe like we have been brainwashed by Science Fiction to believe. Humans, if there are any, could be hunters and gathers or substance farmers instead of galactic explorers.

 

[bripat9643]

The Bible is a fairy tale and God is a mythical creature. Why would God have a penis? Have you ever wondered that?

The Bible is non-fiction and historical. The Norse god is mythology. It's written as myths. Can I help it if you're wrong?

The Bible is a fairy tale. It's obvious fiction. It has a few historical facts in it, but so what? So does every novel by James Michener.

 

[bripat9643]

Hmm, I think not. The ovoid shape is much stronger.

I just realized it also rolls in a circle
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Brilliant observation. It won't roll away. That never occurred to me.

 

[james bond]

The Bible is a fairy tale and God is a mythical creature. Why would God have a penis? Have you ever wondered that?

The Bible is non-fiction and historical. The Norse god is mythology. It's written as myths. Can I help it if you're wrong?

The Bible is a fairy tale. It's obvious fiction. It has a few historical facts in it, but so what? So does every novel by James Michener.

How can it be a fairy tale when we are here and Earth is the perfect place for life; it's unfortunate we have death due to Adam's sin. Furthermore, you will die due to our flesh and blood system. This is what we inherited due to the sin. Only Jesus was able to avoid because he took Adam's place as the perfect human being and be sacrificed. It wasn't enough for a regular human to be sacrificed, but a perfect one with no sin.

If you do not die of accident, disease, virus, or while young due to ill health and make it to ripe old age, then you'll still die of the flesh and blood -- either cancer, heart attack, or stroke. This is more evidence that it isn't a fairy tale.

The fairy tale is ToE, evolutionary thinking and history.

 

[Vastator]

The Bible is a fairy tale and God is a mythical creature. Why would God have a penis? Have you ever wondered that?

The Bible is non-fiction and historical. The Norse god is mythology. It's written as myths. Can I help it if you're wrong?

The Bible is a fairy tale. It's obvious fiction. It has a few historical facts in it, but so what? So does every novel by James Michener.

How can it be a fairy tale when we are here and Earth is the perfect place for life; it's unfortunate we have death due to Adam's sin. Furthermore, you will die due to our flesh and blood system. This is what we inherited due to the sin. Only Jesus was able to avoid because he took Adam's place as the perfect human being and be sacrificed. It wasn't enough for a regular human to be sacrificed, but a perfect one with no sin.

If you do not die of accident, disease, virus, or while young due to ill health and make it to ripe old age, then you'll still die of the flesh and blood -- either cancer, heart attack, or stroke. This is more evidence that it isn't a fairy tale.

The fairy tale is ToE, evolutionary thinking and history.

Youre insane

 

[bripat9643]

The Bible is a fairy tale and God is a mythical creature. Why would God have a penis? Have you ever wondered that?

The Bible is non-fiction and historical. The Norse god is mythology. It's written as myths. Can I help it if you're wrong?

The Bible is a fairy tale. It's obvious fiction. It has a few historical facts in it, but so what? So does every novel by James Michener.

How can it be a fairy tale when we are here and Earth is the perfect place for life; it's unfortunate we have death due to Adam's sin. Furthermore, you will die due to our flesh and blood system. This is what we inherited due to the sin. Only Jesus was able to avoid because he took Adam's place as the perfect human being and be sacrificed. It wasn't enough for a regular human to be sacrificed, but a perfect one with no sin.

If you do not die of accident, disease, virus, or while young due to ill health and make it to ripe old age, then you'll still die of the flesh and blood -- either cancer, heart attack, or stroke. This is more evidence that it isn't a fairy tale.

The fairy tale is ToE, evolutionary thinking and history.

That's all bullshit - claims with no reasonable basis of support.

 

[james bond]

The Bible is a fairy tale and God is a mythical creature. Why would God have a penis? Have you ever wondered that?

The Bible is non-fiction and historical. The Norse god is mythology. It's written as myths. Can I help it if you're wrong?

The Bible is a fairy tale. It's obvious fiction. It has a few historical facts in it, but so what? So does every novel by James Michener.

How can it be a fairy tale when we are here and Earth is the perfect place for life; it's unfortunate we have death due to Adam's sin. Furthermore, you will die due to our flesh and blood system. This is what we inherited due to the sin. Only Jesus was able to avoid because he took Adam's place as the perfect human being and be sacrificed. It wasn't enough for a regular human to be sacrificed, but a perfect one with no sin.

If you do not die of accident, disease, virus, or while young due to ill health and make it to ripe old age, then you'll still die of the flesh and blood -- either cancer, heart attack, or stroke. This is more evidence that it isn't a fairy tale.

The fairy tale is ToE, evolutionary thinking and history.

That's all bullshit - claims with no reasonable basis of support.

It's all true. For one, if we all live to old age, then we'll die of cancer, heart attack, or stroke. All related to the blood.

 

[james bond]

The Bible is a fairy tale and God is a mythical creature. Why would God have a penis? Have you ever wondered that?

The Bible is non-fiction and historical. The Norse god is mythology. It's written as myths. Can I help it if you're wrong?

The Bible is a fairy tale. It's obvious fiction. It has a few historical facts in it, but so what? So does every novel by James Michener.

How can it be a fairy tale when we are here and Earth is the perfect place for life; it's unfortunate we have death due to Adam's sin. Furthermore, you will die due to our flesh and blood system. This is what we inherited due to the sin. Only Jesus was able to avoid because he took Adam's place as the perfect human being and be sacrificed. It wasn't enough for a regular human to be sacrificed, but a perfect one with no sin.

If you do not die of accident, disease, virus, or while young due to ill health and make it to ripe old age, then you'll still die of the flesh and blood -- either cancer, heart attack, or stroke. This is more evidence that it isn't a fairy tale.

The fairy tale is ToE, evolutionary thinking and history.

Youre insane

You're the one who's insane if you believe in ToE, evolutionary thinking and history. The only thing is true is natural selection which creation scientists discovered under Alfred Russell Wallace. OTOH, Darwin led to social Darwinism, eugenics, genocide, Hitler, and the Holocaust (killing of Jews or who Jesus is to save). We still have genocide to this day through Planned Parenthood. They're definitely not in white neighborhoods. I can prove you're insane if you believe in abiogenesis or Multiverses.

 

[ChemEngineer]

What is more interesting is whether we can live on another planet. This may not be possible as Earth looks to be the most habitable planet and there are no other.

I say the ONLY habitable planet. No other planet has oxygen, carbon and water in abundance, together with the habitable temperatures. Why do we need anybody else? We're entirely self sufficient here and have been for thousands of years. Humans probably will not have that much longer until the Second Coming, as prophesied in the Holy Bible.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is more interesting is whether we can live on another planet. This may not be possible as Earth looks to be the most habitable planet and there are no other.

I say the ONLY habitable planet. No other planet has oxygen, carbon and water in abundance, together with the habitable temperatures. Why do we need anybody else? We're entirely self sufficient here and have been for thousands of years. Humans probably will not have that much longer until the Second Coming, as prophesied in the Holy Bible.

No other planet has oxygen, carbon and water in abundance, together with the habitable temperatures.

None? Out of how many trillions? How do you know?

 

[james bond]

No other planet has oxygen, carbon and water in abundance, together with the habitable temperatures.

None? Out of how many trillions? How do you know?

Don't you know? It's real science.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No other planet has oxygen, carbon and water in abundance, together with the habitable temperatures.

None? Out of how many trillions? How do you know?

Don't you know? It's real science.

No, I don't know how one could factually claim we're the only one out of trillions.

 

[ChemEngineer]

We’re only now beginning to appreciate how much our Solar System’s configuration is not only rare but also surprisingly crucial for life and scientific discovery. It has indeed been a perspicacious teacher.

… a finely tuned and interdependent system…. The Privileged Planet by Gonzalez and Richards, page 116

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We’re only now beginning to appreciate how much our Solar System’s configuration is not only rare but also surprisingly crucial for life and scientific discovery. It has indeed been a perspicacious teacher.

… a finely tuned and interdependent system…. The Privileged Planet by Gonzalez and Richards, page 116

our Solar System’s configuration is not only rare

How rare?
1 in 100?
1 in 1,000?
1 in 1,000,000?
1 in 1,000,000,000?

Show your work.

 

[ChemEngineer]

One fool may ask more questions than seven wise men can answer. - Italian Proverb

Answer not a fool according to his folly lest thou be like unto him. - The Holy Bible

A lion does not turn around when a small dog barks. - Nigerian Proverb

 

[james bond]

No other planet has oxygen, carbon and water in abundance, together with the habitable temperatures.

None? Out of how many trillions? How do you know?

Don't you know? It's real science.

No, I don't know how one could factually claim we're the only one out of trillions.

You've asked the question before and it has been answered, but you still do not know.



It's the Anthropic Principle and fine tuning facts.

Here's something new that I learned from fine tuning. The protons are 1,836 times larger than electrons. If they were a little bigger or a little smaller, the atoms could not form the molecules we need to exist.

 

[ChemEngineer]

Electrons are particles but they are also waves. How can this be?
It is counterintuitive. Reality is like that sometimes. Those who profess to be extremely intelligent (the Left exhaustively so) are often lacking in common sense and wisdom. Yet they cluck on.